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Highlanders 2025

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    handa457
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    Do we have an update on the wider training group?

    I’m assuming it’s Jack Sexton, Sam Fischlii, Adam Lennox, Matt Whaanga and Waisake Salabiau but any other names on the list?

    I’m also assuming Michael Loft, and Josh Tengblad are now officially members of the squad for the season?

    Then also assuming Dylan Pledger, Moana Takaka and Kyan Rangitura will be training with the team a lot too.

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      Felt like last night was a good step forward in many ways. A few guys certainly locked in their spots, while others raised questions about whether they should be there.

      My questions are

      Should we be playing our two locks for 80 minutes, and who can we chuck on our bench

      Is Naeata a viable starting loosie. Should we look to either bring in Broughton or Lasaqa to the loosie trio

      Is Sam Gilbert a steady hand or a liability. Could it be better to push Taine Robinson back to fullback and start Millar. Push Gilbert to the bench

      Has Hastie done enough to keep the starting halfback spot

      My team for the Blues clash

      De Groot
      Vikena (needs to improve his throwing)
      Ma'u
      Holland (needs to get more involved)
      Dunshea
      Renton
      Withy
      Broughton

      Hastie
      Millar
      Tangitau
      Tavatavanawai
      Tele'a
      Manson
      Robinson

      Taylor
      DLB/Batrlett
      Kautai
      Tengblad
      Lasaqa
      Fakatava
      Gilbert
      Hurley

      Even with the injuries we have at the moment. This is looking like the best Landers side potential wise in a long time. A lot.of young lads who need to be given time and the ability to make mistakes.

      The Blues will be a bit pissed off. I still think we can go into the final 10 next week fully in the game, and a shout of winning.

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        Felt like last night was a good step forward in many ways. A few guys certainly locked in their spots, while others raised questions about whether they should be there.

        My questions are

        Should we be playing our two locks for 80 minutes, and who can we chuck on our bench

        Is Naeata a viable starting loosie. Should we look to either bring in Broughton or Lasaqa to the loosie trio

        Is Sam Gilbert a steady hand or a liability. Could it be better to push Taine Robinson back to fullback and start Millar. Push Gilbert to the bench

        Has Hastie done enough to keep the starting halfback spot

        My team for the Blues clash

        De Groot
        Vikena (needs to improve his throwing)
        Ma'u
        Holland (needs to get more involved)
        Dunshea
        Renton
        Withy
        Broughton

        Hastie
        Millar
        Tangitau
        Tavatavanawai
        Tele'a
        Manson
        Robinson

        Taylor
        DLB/Batrlett
        Kautai
        Tengblad
        Lasaqa
        Fakatava
        Gilbert
        Hurley

        Even with the injuries we have at the moment. This is looking like the best Landers side potential wise in a long time. A lot.of young lads who need to be given time and the ability to make mistakes.

        The Blues will be a bit pissed off. I still think we can go into the final 10 next week fully in the game, and a shout of winning.

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        Canes4life
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        @SouthernMann said in Highlanders 2025:

        Felt like last night was a good step forward in many ways. A few guys certainly locked in their spots, while others raised questions about whether they should be there.

        My questions are

        Should we be playing our two locks for 80 minutes, and who can we chuck on our bench

        Is Naeata a viable starting loosie. Should we look to either bring in Broughton or Lasaqa to the loosie trio

        Is Sam Gilbert a steady hand or a liability. Could it be better to push Taine Robinson back to fullback and start Millar. Push Gilbert to the bench

        Has Hastie done enough to keep the starting halfback spot

        My team for the Blues clash

        De Groot
        Vikena (needs to improve his throwing)
        Ma'u
        Holland (needs to get more involved)
        Dunshea
        Renton
        Withy
        Broughton

        Hastie
        Millar
        Tangitau
        Tavatavanawai
        Tele'a
        Manson
        Robinson

        Taylor
        DLB/Batrlett
        Kautai
        Tengblad
        Lasaqa
        Fakatava
        Gilbert
        Hurley

        Even with the injuries we have at the moment. This is looking like the best Landers side potential wise in a long time. A lot.of young lads who need to be given time and the ability to make mistakes.

        The Blues will be a bit pissed off. I still think we can go into the final 10 next week fully in the game, and a shout of winning.

        This Landers side definitely seems more deadly on attack compared to previous seasons. As long as they keep parity up front they’ll be pushing for the playoffs for sure.

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          Felt like last night was a good step forward in many ways. A few guys certainly locked in their spots, while others raised questions about whether they should be there.

          My questions are

          Should we be playing our two locks for 80 minutes, and who can we chuck on our bench

          Is Naeata a viable starting loosie. Should we look to either bring in Broughton or Lasaqa to the loosie trio

          Is Sam Gilbert a steady hand or a liability. Could it be better to push Taine Robinson back to fullback and start Millar. Push Gilbert to the bench

          Has Hastie done enough to keep the starting halfback spot

          My team for the Blues clash

          De Groot
          Vikena (needs to improve his throwing)
          Ma'u
          Holland (needs to get more involved)
          Dunshea
          Renton
          Withy
          Broughton

          Hastie
          Millar
          Tangitau
          Tavatavanawai
          Tele'a
          Manson
          Robinson

          Taylor
          DLB/Batrlett
          Kautai
          Tengblad
          Lasaqa
          Fakatava
          Gilbert
          Hurley

          Even with the injuries we have at the moment. This is looking like the best Landers side potential wise in a long time. A lot.of young lads who need to be given time and the ability to make mistakes.

          The Blues will be a bit pissed off. I still think we can go into the final 10 next week fully in the game, and a shout of winning.

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          @SouthernMann

          Tend to agree I wouldn’t change too much - it was only the first game of the season.

          Broughton starts with Renton to 6, and Millar starts for me. I thought Gilbert was okay for the first 60, but then got absolutely shagged. That aerial assault would have been difficult for any player to deal with, so I am ambivalent as to who starts.

          Bench I would pretty much leave. I am fine with Naeta, but I would run a 6-2 split, so Gilbert/Robinson misses out. Either Stodart or Tengbald comes onto the bench, and I’d leave the front row. DLB looked the best he has in years!

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            @SouthernMann

            Tend to agree I wouldn’t change too much - it was only the first game of the season.

            Broughton starts with Renton to 6, and Millar starts for me. I thought Gilbert was okay for the first 60, but then got absolutely shagged. That aerial assault would have been difficult for any player to deal with, so I am ambivalent as to who starts.

            Bench I would pretty much leave. I am fine with Naeta, but I would run a 6-2 split, so Gilbert/Robinson misses out. Either Stodart or Tengbald comes onto the bench, and I’d leave the front row. DLB looked the best he has in years!

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            Landers92
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            @frugby said in Highlanders 2025:

            @SouthernMann

            Tend to agree I wouldn’t change too much - it was only the first game of the season.

            Broughton starts with Renton to 6, and Millar starts for me. I thought Gilbert was okay for the first 60, but then got absolutely shagged. That aerial assault would have been difficult for any player to deal with, so I am ambivalent as to who starts.

            Bench I would pretty much leave. I am fine with Naeta, but I would run a 6-2 split, so Gilbert/Robinson misses out. Either Stodart or Tengbald comes onto the bench, and I’d leave the front row. DLB looked the best he has in years!

            Agree on Renton to 6 and Broughton to 8. I would start Millar.

            If we are going a 6/2 split, I want a halfback and either Robinson/Gilbert on the bench. Hurley would be the one to miss out you would think. Gilbert and Robinson provide that more proven cover at 10, Hurley can play it at a pinch but that’s way off super level so feel he would miss out if that’s the case.

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              @frugby said in Highlanders 2025:

              @SouthernMann

              Tend to agree I wouldn’t change too much - it was only the first game of the season.

              Broughton starts with Renton to 6, and Millar starts for me. I thought Gilbert was okay for the first 60, but then got absolutely shagged. That aerial assault would have been difficult for any player to deal with, so I am ambivalent as to who starts.

              Bench I would pretty much leave. I am fine with Naeta, but I would run a 6-2 split, so Gilbert/Robinson misses out. Either Stodart or Tengbald comes onto the bench, and I’d leave the front row. DLB looked the best he has in years!

              Agree on Renton to 6 and Broughton to 8. I would start Millar.

              If we are going a 6/2 split, I want a halfback and either Robinson/Gilbert on the bench. Hurley would be the one to miss out you would think. Gilbert and Robinson provide that more proven cover at 10, Hurley can play it at a pinch but that’s way off super level so feel he would miss out if that’s the case.

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              @Landers92 Fair enough. If Robinson starts at 15 though, I’d lean Hurley. As much as I am no great fan, as he did when he came on, Hurley can break a game open.

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                I think Hurley is a must have on the bench. 20 - 25 minutes of him in a roving role can be absolute dynamite. What we need from the players around him is understanding how he plays. Looking out for him running off their shoulders, and doing the same from him.

                Interms of bench inpact; him, Fakatava and Lasaqa are the three guys that can change a game with 25 to go.

                I'd also lean more towards Jack Taylor over Henry Bell for the same reasons.

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                  Agreed if Fakatava is going overseas it would make sense for Hastie to be starting this season and Fakatava to be on the bench breaking the game open.

                  When TUJ returns I’d slot him at 22 and Hurley at 23. With Gilbert providing 10/15 cover on the field. Jack Taylor probably gets slotted in mid season on the bench over Bell. Though I have been impressed with Bell.

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                    Landers92
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                    Updated injury list.

                    Oliver Haig (foot / 8 weeks )
                    Jonah Lowe (ACL / 6 weeks )
                    TK Howden (hamstring / 3 weeks)
                    Jona Nareki (ankle /4 weeks)
                    Jacob Ratumaitavuki-Kneepkens (neck / 8 weeks

                    Good to see Umaga Jenson removed from the list. Unsure if development have any games coming up but wouldn’t be shocked to see him get minutes there.

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                      just saw this posted so another way to see who fit

                      I remember being very happy with fischli during the NPC so wouldnt mind seeing him get some minutes

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                        Bravehearts release would indicate that Tai Cribb and Taniela Filmone have joined the environment. Cribb's an U20's Lock from a few years back, and Fimone plays for Manawatau.

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                          Cribb was part of the Chiefs pre-season squad this year. NZ U20s last year.

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                            As I stated above I was hoping to see Umaga Jenson back out there so that’s good to see. Good to see some squad guys getting minutes too and not wrapping them in cotton wool.

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                              Interesting that there's no Josh Whaanga or Henry Bell in the mix. Wonder if both are carrying niggles? Interesting that Waisake Sibulu isn't in the team either. Fletcher Morgan's one that's not familar to me either. Anyone know who he is or anything about him?

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                                Interesting that there's no Josh Whaanga or Henry Bell in the mix. Wonder if both are carrying niggles? Interesting that Waisake Sibulu isn't in the team either. Fletcher Morgan's one that's not familar to me either. Anyone know who he is or anything about him?

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                                @handa457 Salabiau is back with the Chiefs, so I assume he will be in the U20s squad again.

                                Fletcher Morgan is a centre/outside back who plays for Thames Valley. He plays club rugby in Hamilton, and was in the Canterbury system while at Uni.

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                                  These teams always throw around some left field selections.

                                  I'm surprised there aren't a few more from the U20s. No Pledger, Holland Jr, Muliaina...

                                  Fletcher Morgan is an odd pick up. Must really be stuff all outside backs around.

                                  A-one Lolofie is an odd absentee.

                                  Josh Augistine must still be coming back from a broken leg.

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                                    Out of interest what’s the status of Jeremiah Asi? Feels like he was an academy player destined for bit things a couple of years back then seems to have vanished last couple of years. He still in the system?

                                    Konrad Toleafoa and Aaron Withy are two more who seemed hyped for big things than haven’t seen much of since. Though at least Asi made NPC.

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                                      For anyone wondering. Highlanders Dev beat Crusaders Dev 48-19

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                                        How strong were the Crusaders Dev side? They did beat the Hurricanes Hunters last week.

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                                          Out of interest what’s the status of Jeremiah Asi? Feels like he was an academy player destined for bit things a couple of years back then seems to have vanished last couple of years. He still in the system?

                                          Konrad Toleafoa and Aaron Withy are two more who seemed hyped for big things than haven’t seen much of since. Though at least Asi made NPC.

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                                          @handa457 said in Highlanders 2025:

                                          Out of interest what’s the status of Jeremiah Asi? Feels like he was an academy player destined for bit things a couple of years back then seems to have vanished last couple of years. He still in the system?

                                          Konrad Toleafoa and Aaron Withy are two more who seemed hyped for big things than haven’t seen much of since. Though at least Asi made NPC.

                                          Toleafoa was the dominant player in club rugby I believe. He is just in a difficult spot, where the two players ahead of him for Otago are Lio-Willie and Stodart. I wouldn't be surprised if he buggers off after realising the opportunities are blocked at Otago.

                                          Aaron Withy is probably behind Harry Taylor, Lucas Casey and probably Max Ratcliffe.

                                          Then at the Highlanders add in his brother, Michaels, Lasaqa, Rutledge (down the line), and the young fella who tore it up with the Maori U18s last year. Plenty of loosie options coming through.

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