Black Caps in India
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Bugger - we badly needed a couple of handy 15-20s, but Jadeja has dynamited our tail with one over - and now BJ goes.
Still - we're not completely out of this - though we really need to roll the Indians for absolutely no more than 150. Could happen on this pitch, but it needs lots to go right.
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It's easy to bemoan the use or lack of DRS but at least we reach a satisfactory conclusion with technology
Luke's and Ish's LBW and Rohit's in the first dig and Kane's not out caught behind all would have satisfactory outcomes
That India play under no DRS conditions is a farken joke
Their argument against DRS virtually mirrors the anti-vaccination nutjobs arguments
Might reign in some of the shit appealing too
Like NQ says it's like going back in time and the reality is that we, the watching stakeholders, are subjected to an inferior product when India play test cricket
Hard to beat India from here
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We look gone for all money. We'll be chasing 300+ and the Indians will have oodles of time to bowl at us.
I'd say the Ronchi one has been the most disappointing decision.
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Some of the whining about umpiring, while claiming kiwis don't whine is.....interesting.
Hello all, haven't been here in ages and had to re-register. Had some fun with some of you back in the Fleming days. Recognize some of the handles - DonSteppa etc.
From my perspective, after watching the dismissal a couple of times, Ronchi's legBefore wasn't that much of a shocker - Jadeja doesn't turn the ball that much, he's all about pinging away at the stumps with slight changes in length, angle and a bit of turn. Ball pitched in line, and was turning a bit. But not all Indian spinners turn the ball big, especially not Jadeja.
Anyway, let's hope the cricket stays competitive and the 5 kiwi fans that care about cricket are still interested
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Some of the whining about umpiring, while claiming kiwis don't whine is.....interesting.
Hello all, haven't been here in ages and had to re-register. Had some fun with some of you back in the Fleming days. Recognize some of the handles - DonSteppa etc.
From my perspective, after watching the dismissal a couple of times, Ronchi's legBefore wasn't that much of a shocker - Jadeja doesn't turn the ball that much, he's all about pinging away at the stumps with slight changes in length, angle and a bit of turn. Ball pitched in line, and was turning a bit. But not all Indian spinners turn the ball big, especially not Jadeja.
Anyway, let's hope the cricket stays competitive and the 5 kiwi fans that care about cricket are still interested
@newsjunkie said in Black Caps in India:
Anyway, let's hope the cricket stays competitive and the 5 kiwi fans that care about cricket are still interested
Wait, who's the third, fourth and fifth?
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Some of the whining about umpiring, while claiming kiwis don't whine is.....interesting.
Hello all, haven't been here in ages and had to re-register. Had some fun with some of you back in the Fleming days. Recognize some of the handles - DonSteppa etc.
From my perspective, after watching the dismissal a couple of times, Ronchi's legBefore wasn't that much of a shocker - Jadeja doesn't turn the ball that much, he's all about pinging away at the stumps with slight changes in length, angle and a bit of turn. Ball pitched in line, and was turning a bit. But not all Indian spinners turn the ball big, especially not Jadeja.
Anyway, let's hope the cricket stays competitive and the 5 kiwi fans that care about cricket are still interested
@newsjunkie said in Black Caps in India:
Some of the whining about umpiring, while claiming kiwis don't whine is.....interesting.
Hello all, haven't been here in ages and had to re-register. Had some fun with some of you back in the Fleming days. Recognize some of the handles - DonSteppa etc.
From my perspective, after watching the dismissal a couple of times, Ronchi's legBefore wasn't that much of a shocker - Jadeja doesn't turn the ball that much, he's all about pinging away at the stumps with slight changes in length, angle and a bit of turn. Ball pitched in line, and was turning a bit. But not all Indian spinners turn the ball big, especially not Jadeja.
Anyway, let's hope the cricket stays competitive and the 5 kiwi fans that care about cricket are still interested
No one has whined about the umpiring.
But I'm definitely whining about the undue influence the India has on the international game.
I can only assume when the BCCI fishheads fly on an aeroplane they ask the pilots to turn off the navigation equipment and fly by sight lest the technology makes one slight mistake
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I'm a New Zealander and I absolutely assert my right to whine about shit decisions. I've done it before and I'll do it again.
I'll try not to go on and on and on about the injustice of it all.
It is bloody foolishness not to use the DRS though - it's not perfect, but it's significantly better than umpire's eyesight - and the umpires in this game have been pretty good. No absolute howlers - but, several that likely would have been overturned.
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I tend to agree with those wanting DRS implemented - its not perfect but is an improvement. But BCCI's decisions are always driven by practical considerations ($$$$). That's where the BCCI reluctance stemmed from initially. Think about the number of test and ODI venues in India and the cost involved in implementing a tech solution that had only vendor. And that vendor refused to negotiate with the BCCI even a bit. And now they've sort of worked themselves into a corner of arrogance and won't change their position unless they get a fig-leaf. The much talked about adjustments to "Umpire's call" might do the trick. Hopefully anyway.
And also, no issues with those venting on bad decisions -its a fan's privilege - Shows you care!
Ever since John Wright's stint as India Coach, my soft corner for the Kiwi cricket team has only increased. Fleming was a jerk when he was playing though.
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I tend to agree with those wanting DRS implemented - its not perfect but is an improvement. But BCCI's decisions are always driven by practical considerations ($$$$). That's where the BCCI reluctance stemmed from initially. Think about the number of test and ODI venues in India and the cost involved in implementing a tech solution that had only vendor. And that vendor refused to negotiate with the BCCI even a bit. And now they've sort of worked themselves into a corner of arrogance and won't change their position unless they get a fig-leaf. The much talked about adjustments to "Umpire's call" might do the trick. Hopefully anyway.
And also, no issues with those venting on bad decisions -its a fan's privilege - Shows you care!
Ever since John Wright's stint as India Coach, my soft corner for the Kiwi cricket team has only increased. Fleming was a jerk when he was playing though.
@newsjunkie said in Black Caps in India:
I tend to agree with those wanting DRS implemented - its not perfect but is an improvement.
Agree with this. It also has to reduce appeals - if you so strongly believe the umpire is wrong, spend an appeal.
The decisions haven't been horrible, but feels like one of those games where the 50/50 balls just bounce the wrong way. A couple could well have been overturned though, but you just never know.
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Can someone explain how India are within their rights to NOT use DRS ?
To me it's like the All Blacks touring Argentina and say, not kicking drop goals cos they're only worth one as opposed to three points for test matches played there.
@MN5 said in Black Caps in India:
Can someone explain how India are within their rights to NOT use DRS ?
To me it's like the All Blacks touring Argentina and say, not kicking drop goals cos they're only worth one as opposed to three points for test matches played there.
The golden rule. He who has the gold makes the rules.
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@MN5 said in Black Caps in India:
Can someone explain how India are within their rights to NOT use DRS ?
To me it's like the All Blacks touring Argentina and say, not kicking drop goals cos they're only worth one as opposed to three points for test matches played there.
The golden rule. He who has the gold makes the rules.
@booboo said in Black Caps in India:
@MN5 said in Black Caps in India:
The golden rule. He who has the gold makes the rules.I wanted to post this exact quote! You beat me to it dammit.
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I tend to agree with those wanting DRS implemented - its not perfect but is an improvement. But BCCI's decisions are always driven by practical considerations ($$$$). That's where the BCCI reluctance stemmed from initially. Think about the number of test and ODI venues in India and the cost involved in implementing a tech solution that had only vendor. And that vendor refused to negotiate with the BCCI even a bit. And now they've sort of worked themselves into a corner of arrogance and won't change their position unless they get a fig-leaf. The much talked about adjustments to "Umpire's call" might do the trick. Hopefully anyway.
And also, no issues with those venting on bad decisions -its a fan's privilege - Shows you care!
Ever since John Wright's stint as India Coach, my soft corner for the Kiwi cricket team has only increased. Fleming was a jerk when he was playing though.
@newsjunkie said in Black Caps in India:
I tend to agree with those wanting DRS implemented - its not perfect but is an improvement. But BCCI's decisions are always driven by practical considerations ($$$$). That's where the BCCI reluctance stemmed from initially. Think about the number of test and ODI venues in India and the cost involved in implementing a tech solution that had only vendor. And that vendor refused to negotiate with the BCCI even a bit. And now they've sort of worked themselves into a corner of arrogance and won't change their position unless they get a fig-leaf. The much talked about adjustments to "Umpire's call" might do the trick. Hopefully anyway.
And also, no issues with those venting on bad decisions -its a fan's privilege - Shows you care!
Ever since John Wright's stint as India Coach, my soft corner for the Kiwi cricket team has only increased. Fleming was a jerk when he was playing though.
Not so much that the BCCI can't negotiate a deal but more that they won't get 5 spinners lbws an innings.
Tours outside India dont cost the BCCI any money for technology -
At the end of the day, we can't complain much about this test. We got ourselves into a position to get a first innings lead and haven't been good enough. Indian batsmen have shown the pitch wasn't a complete minefield.
Their batsmen have generally been better in these conditions so far in this match and so have their bowlers.
Depending on the threat of rain, I'd set us 400 - we won't get those runs on this pitch against their spinners, so pray for rain!
