Highlanders 2025
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@Kiwiwomble said in Highlanders 2025:
@Dan54 i for one love the tempo, much preferred to a committee meeting followed by a limp kick for 15m gain, keep turning them around. I think it makes a difference as captain...he's setting the gameplan, everyone else should be looking to him
Not suggesting I don't like it in any way mate. Just not sure coaches or anyone will want it in test arena? I can imagine how quickly he would get called an idiot if he did it in test and missed touch. Just not percentage play?
@Dan54 said in Highlanders 2025:
@Kiwiwomble said in Highlanders 2025:
@Dan54 i for one love the tempo, much preferred to a committee meeting followed by a limp kick for 15m gain, keep turning them around. I think it makes a difference as captain...he's setting the gameplan, everyone else should be looking to him
Not suggesting I don't like it in any way mate. Just not sure coaches or anyone will want it in test arena? I can imagine how quickly he would get called an idiot if he did it in test and missed touch. Just not percentage play?
Have you never seen B Barrett play for the ABs?
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Is the rumour true Big Jim wants to play for the ABs?
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Is the rumour true Big Jim wants to play for the ABs?
@nostrildamus i kind of assume if you're uncapped internationally and you commit to a NZ franchise then you want to play for the AB's, but maybe not :man-shrugging:
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Is the rumour true Big Jim wants to play for the ABs?
@nostrildamus said in Highlanders 2025:
Is the rumour true Big Jim wants to play for the ABs?
It has been reported he's turned down Fiji numerous times to keep chasing an ABs opportunity
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if it was a betting option....id put some money on him getting pick in squads but being stuck behind incumbents, at best, he'll play in the third test if we've one the first two...and then never get picked again
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Just wonder after Big Jim's game last week, if JJ didn't have a quiet word about staying calm etc.
The 50-22 kick he did was on the back of him taking a quick penalty, and think perhaps was a risky play for a few metres? If they just kicked penalty to touch they still got throw in etc. Perhaps not what the AB selectors would want??@Dan54 said in Highlanders 2025:
Just wonder after Big Jim's game last week, if JJ didn't have a quiet word about staying calm etc.
The 50-22 kick he did was on the back of him taking a quick penalty, and think perhaps was a risky play for a few metres? If they just kicked penalty to touch they still got throw in etc. Perhaps not what the AB selectors would want??I get what you’re saying, but i thought he saw a chance and backed himself to execute. No different to Bender and Aaron Smith making similar plays over the years, I’m all for a player backing themselves.
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Just wonder after Big Jim's game last week, if JJ didn't have a quiet word about staying calm etc.
The 50-22 kick he did was on the back of him taking a quick penalty, and think perhaps was a risky play for a few metres? If they just kicked penalty to touch they still got throw in etc. Perhaps not what the AB selectors would want??@Dan54 said in Highlanders 2025:
Just wonder after Big Jim's game last week, if JJ didn't have a quiet word about staying calm etc.
The 50-22 kick he did was on the back of him taking a quick penalty, and think perhaps was a risky play for a few metres? If they just kicked penalty to touch they still got throw in etc. Perhaps not what the AB selectors would want??If he hadn't kicked a ball in a long time I'd agree. But, it was the second 50/22 in as many weeks. He tapped and went with the intention to kick. Fullback up, it was a smart play.
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@Dan54 said in Highlanders 2025:
Just wonder after Big Jim's game last week, if JJ didn't have a quiet word about staying calm etc.
The 50-22 kick he did was on the back of him taking a quick penalty, and think perhaps was a risky play for a few metres? If they just kicked penalty to touch they still got throw in etc. Perhaps not what the AB selectors would want??If he hadn't kicked a ball in a long time I'd agree. But, it was the second 50/22 in as many weeks. He tapped and went with the intention to kick. Fullback up, it was a smart play.
@SouthernMann said in Highlanders 2025:
@Dan54 said in Highlanders 2025:
Just wonder after Big Jim's game last week, if JJ didn't have a quiet word about staying calm etc.
The 50-22 kick he did was on the back of him taking a quick penalty, and think perhaps was a risky play for a few metres? If they just kicked penalty to touch they still got throw in etc. Perhaps not what the AB selectors would want??If he hadn't kicked a ball in a long time I'd agree. But, it was the second 50/22 in as many weeks. He tapped and went with the intention to kick. Fullback up, it was a smart play.
I just thought it risky. He could of kicked that exact same kick from penalty marks without the risk of turning ball over if it didn't make 22.
Make it clear again, I loved it, but if he was in test match did it and turned ball over he would get crucified on here. All I suggesting is not what test coaches would be looking for I wouldn't think. -
Highlanders ran a new player draft for club rugby. Fun idea.
An interesting tidbit is that Faleafaga is now wearing Zingari kit, looks like he's changed from the Sharks
@SouthernMann i saw that too! he's dead to me!
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@SouthernMann said in Highlanders 2025:
@Dan54 said in Highlanders 2025:
Just wonder after Big Jim's game last week, if JJ didn't have a quiet word about staying calm etc.
The 50-22 kick he did was on the back of him taking a quick penalty, and think perhaps was a risky play for a few metres? If they just kicked penalty to touch they still got throw in etc. Perhaps not what the AB selectors would want??If he hadn't kicked a ball in a long time I'd agree. But, it was the second 50/22 in as many weeks. He tapped and went with the intention to kick. Fullback up, it was a smart play.
I just thought it risky. He could of kicked that exact same kick from penalty marks without the risk of turning ball over if it didn't make 22.
Make it clear again, I loved it, but if he was in test match did it and turned ball over he would get crucified on here. All I suggesting is not what test coaches would be looking for I wouldn't think.@Dan54 said in Highlanders 2025:
@SouthernMann said in Highlanders 2025:
@Dan54 said in Highlanders 2025:
Just wonder after Big Jim's game last week, if JJ didn't have a quiet word about staying calm etc.
The 50-22 kick he did was on the back of him taking a quick penalty, and think perhaps was a risky play for a few metres? If they just kicked penalty to touch they still got throw in etc. Perhaps not what the AB selectors would want??If he hadn't kicked a ball in a long time I'd agree. But, it was the second 50/22 in as many weeks. He tapped and went with the intention to kick. Fullback up, it was a smart play.
I just thought it risky. He could of kicked that exact same kick from penalty marks without the risk of turning ball over if it didn't make 22.
Make it clear again, I loved it, but if he was in test match did it and turned ball over he would get crucified on here. All I suggesting is not what test coaches would be looking for I wouldn't think.I think you are reading a wee bit too much into a single play in week 2 of Super Rugby.
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@SouthernMann said in Highlanders 2025:
@Dan54 said in Highlanders 2025:
Just wonder after Big Jim's game last week, if JJ didn't have a quiet word about staying calm etc.
The 50-22 kick he did was on the back of him taking a quick penalty, and think perhaps was a risky play for a few metres? If they just kicked penalty to touch they still got throw in etc. Perhaps not what the AB selectors would want??If he hadn't kicked a ball in a long time I'd agree. But, it was the second 50/22 in as many weeks. He tapped and went with the intention to kick. Fullback up, it was a smart play.
I just thought it risky. He could of kicked that exact same kick from penalty marks without the risk of turning ball over if it didn't make 22.
Make it clear again, I loved it, but if he was in test match did it and turned ball over he would get crucified on here. All I suggesting is not what test coaches would be looking for I wouldn't think.@Dan54 said in Highlanders 2025:
@SouthernMann said in Highlanders 2025:
@Dan54 said in Highlanders 2025:
Just wonder after Big Jim's game last week, if JJ didn't have a quiet word about staying calm etc.
The 50-22 kick he did was on the back of him taking a quick penalty, and think perhaps was a risky play for a few metres? If they just kicked penalty to touch they still got throw in etc. Perhaps not what the AB selectors would want??If he hadn't kicked a ball in a long time I'd agree. But, it was the second 50/22 in as many weeks. He tapped and went with the intention to kick. Fullback up, it was a smart play.
I just thought it risky. He could of kicked that exact same kick from penalty marks without the risk of turning ball over if it didn't make 22.
Make it clear again, I loved it, but if he was in test match did it and turned ball over he would get crucified on here. All I suggesting is not what test coaches would be looking for I wouldn't think.Sure it had an element of risk, but excellent players make the difference in games. Had he waited and kicked a normal penalty he wouldn't have got the same distance with the kick as it would've been covered.
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@Dan54 said in Highlanders 2025:
@SouthernMann said in Highlanders 2025:
@Dan54 said in Highlanders 2025:
Just wonder after Big Jim's game last week, if JJ didn't have a quiet word about staying calm etc.
The 50-22 kick he did was on the back of him taking a quick penalty, and think perhaps was a risky play for a few metres? If they just kicked penalty to touch they still got throw in etc. Perhaps not what the AB selectors would want??If he hadn't kicked a ball in a long time I'd agree. But, it was the second 50/22 in as many weeks. He tapped and went with the intention to kick. Fullback up, it was a smart play.
I just thought it risky. He could of kicked that exact same kick from penalty marks without the risk of turning ball over if it didn't make 22.
Make it clear again, I loved it, but if he was in test match did it and turned ball over he would get crucified on here. All I suggesting is not what test coaches would be looking for I wouldn't think.Sure it had an element of risk, but excellent players make the difference in games. Had he waited and kicked a normal penalty he wouldn't have got the same distance with the kick as it would've been covered.
I agree, I thought it showed excellent understanding of the laws. There was risk involved, but if no-one is back, it is just down to his execution.
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And he is VC isn't he, so has a bit of lattitude to make such decisions?
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And he is VC isn't he, so has a bit of lattitude to make such decisions?
@taniwharugby co-captain and at that point i think renton was off the field so he was Captain
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@taniwharugby co-captain and at that point i think renton was off the field so he was Captain
@Kiwiwomble meh, co-captain, VC, same same different
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@Dan54 said in Highlanders 2025:
@SouthernMann said in Highlanders 2025:
@Dan54 said in Highlanders 2025:
Just wonder after Big Jim's game last week, if JJ didn't have a quiet word about staying calm etc.
The 50-22 kick he did was on the back of him taking a quick penalty, and think perhaps was a risky play for a few metres? If they just kicked penalty to touch they still got throw in etc. Perhaps not what the AB selectors would want??If he hadn't kicked a ball in a long time I'd agree. But, it was the second 50/22 in as many weeks. He tapped and went with the intention to kick. Fullback up, it was a smart play.
I just thought it risky. He could of kicked that exact same kick from penalty marks without the risk of turning ball over if it didn't make 22.
Make it clear again, I loved it, but if he was in test match did it and turned ball over he would get crucified on here. All I suggesting is not what test coaches would be looking for I wouldn't think.I think you are reading a wee bit too much into a single play in week 2 of Super Rugby.
@KiwiMurph said in Highlanders 2025:
@Dan54 said in Highlanders 2025:
@SouthernMann said in Highlanders 2025:
@Dan54 said in Highlanders 2025:
Just wonder after Big Jim's game last week, if JJ didn't have a quiet word about staying calm etc.
The 50-22 kick he did was on the back of him taking a quick penalty, and think perhaps was a risky play for a few metres? If they just kicked penalty to touch they still got throw in etc. Perhaps not what the AB selectors would want??If he hadn't kicked a ball in a long time I'd agree. But, it was the second 50/22 in as many weeks. He tapped and went with the intention to kick. Fullback up, it was a smart play.
I just thought it risky. He could of kicked that exact same kick from penalty marks without the risk of turning ball over if it didn't make 22.
Make it clear again, I loved it, but if he was in test match did it and turned ball over he would get crucified on here. All I suggesting is not what test coaches would be looking for I wouldn't think.I think you are reading a wee bit too much into a single play in week 2 of Super Rugby.
Ok, but that's the highlight that keeps getting played of Big Jim to show he should be an AB it seems.
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@Dan54 said in Highlanders 2025:
@SouthernMann said in Highlanders 2025:
@Dan54 said in Highlanders 2025:
Just wonder after Big Jim's game last week, if JJ didn't have a quiet word about staying calm etc.
The 50-22 kick he did was on the back of him taking a quick penalty, and think perhaps was a risky play for a few metres? If they just kicked penalty to touch they still got throw in etc. Perhaps not what the AB selectors would want??If he hadn't kicked a ball in a long time I'd agree. But, it was the second 50/22 in as many weeks. He tapped and went with the intention to kick. Fullback up, it was a smart play.
I just thought it risky. He could of kicked that exact same kick from penalty marks without the risk of turning ball over if it didn't make 22.
Make it clear again, I loved it, but if he was in test match did it and turned ball over he would get crucified on here. All I suggesting is not what test coaches would be looking for I wouldn't think.Sure it had an element of risk, but excellent players make the difference in games. Had he waited and kicked a normal penalty he wouldn't have got the same distance with the kick as it would've been covered.
@antipodean said in Highlanders 2025:
@Dan54 said in Highlanders 2025:
@SouthernMann said in Highlanders 2025:
@Dan54 said in Highlanders 2025:
Just wonder after Big Jim's game last week, if JJ didn't have a quiet word about staying calm etc.
The 50-22 kick he did was on the back of him taking a quick penalty, and think perhaps was a risky play for a few metres? If they just kicked penalty to touch they still got throw in etc. Perhaps not what the AB selectors would want??If he hadn't kicked a ball in a long time I'd agree. But, it was the second 50/22 in as many weeks. He tapped and went with the intention to kick. Fullback up, it was a smart play.
I just thought it risky. He could of kicked that exact same kick from penalty marks without the risk of turning ball over if it didn't make 22.
Make it clear again, I loved it, but if he was in test match did it and turned ball over he would get crucified on here. All I suggesting is not what test coaches would be looking for I wouldn't think.Sure it had an element of risk, but excellent players make the difference in games. Had he waited and kicked a normal penalty he wouldn't have got the same distance with the kick as it would've been covered.
He didn't have to wait, my point was he could of kicked same kick from penalty spot, even quicker with less risk is all. The great thing I think they should of been highlighting was his earning the penalty to start with.
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@antipodean said in Highlanders 2025:
@Dan54 said in Highlanders 2025:
@SouthernMann said in Highlanders 2025:
@Dan54 said in Highlanders 2025:
Just wonder after Big Jim's game last week, if JJ didn't have a quiet word about staying calm etc.
The 50-22 kick he did was on the back of him taking a quick penalty, and think perhaps was a risky play for a few metres? If they just kicked penalty to touch they still got throw in etc. Perhaps not what the AB selectors would want??If he hadn't kicked a ball in a long time I'd agree. But, it was the second 50/22 in as many weeks. He tapped and went with the intention to kick. Fullback up, it was a smart play.
I just thought it risky. He could of kicked that exact same kick from penalty marks without the risk of turning ball over if it didn't make 22.
Make it clear again, I loved it, but if he was in test match did it and turned ball over he would get crucified on here. All I suggesting is not what test coaches would be looking for I wouldn't think.Sure it had an element of risk, but excellent players make the difference in games. Had he waited and kicked a normal penalty he wouldn't have got the same distance with the kick as it would've been covered.
He didn't have to wait, my point was he could of kicked same kick from penalty spot, even quicker with less risk is all. The great thing I think they should of been highlighting was his earning the penalty to start with.
@Dan54 i get what your saying, your not wrong but kicking quickly from the mark is a little tough with so many bodies around so he would have had to wait for them to clear/retreat, he taps, runs 5-8m to get clear and then bangs it in behind the retreating defence, a set defence would definitely have been able to pick that off as it takes a bounce
