Hurricanes vs Blues
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Good to see the Blues defence get back to it's previous standards. It was still a bit leaky in the first half but came right in the second spell. The Canes had plenty of ball but often it was slow or behind the gainline
Only conceding 2 tries when a side like the Canes has 60% possession is a good effort
Incidentally I have the opta stats. Anything you guys want to know?
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Good to see the Blues defence get back to it's previous standards. It was still a bit leaky in the first half but came right in the second spell. The Canes had plenty of ball but often it was slow or behind the gainline
Only conceding 2 tries when a side like the Canes has 60% possession is a good effort
Incidentally I have the opta stats. Anything you guys want to know?
@Duluth said in Hurricanes vs Blues:
Good to see the Blues defence get back to it's previous standards. It was still a bit leaky in the first half but came right in the second spell. The Canes had plenty of ball but often it was slow or behind the gainline
Only conceding 2 tries when a side like the Canes has 60% possession is a good effort
Incidentally I have the opta stats. Anything you guys want to know?
Yeah sometimes you just need a win to get things going, and who knows, maybe that was it. Still miles away from where we want to be, but a BP win in the capital might just be what we need to turn our fortunes around, and the BP is almost a reward for as you pointed out, our defensive effort.
In regards to the stats, give us anything!
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@African-Monkey said in Hurricanes vs Blues:
@Tim said in Hurricanes vs Blues:
@chchfanatic Great post!
Speaking of Sotutu, how come he got red when Cam Millar got nothing on Friday night?
Watching it again, Sotutu should have only got yellow. Hard done by.
I genuinely have no fucking idea how they judge cards anymore. People try to make out there's a process being followed. If there actually is one then it's a shit process.
@Nepia said in Hurricanes vs Blues:
@African-Monkey said in Hurricanes vs Blues:
@Tim said in Hurricanes vs Blues:
@chchfanatic Great post!
Speaking of Sotutu, how come he got red when Cam Millar got nothing on Friday night?
Watching it again, Sotutu should have only got yellow. Hard done by.
I genuinely have no fucking idea how they judge cards anymore. People try to make out there's a process being followed. If there actually is one then it's a shit process.
People laughed at me a couple of years ago when I said someone should use AI to decide on which infringements get which punishment. The tech has advanced so much I reckon it would work. And besides it can't be any worse than the shit we have now
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@Nepia said in Hurricanes vs Blues:
@African-Monkey said in Hurricanes vs Blues:
@Tim said in Hurricanes vs Blues:
@chchfanatic Great post!
Speaking of Sotutu, how come he got red when Cam Millar got nothing on Friday night?
Watching it again, Sotutu should have only got yellow. Hard done by.
I genuinely have no fucking idea how they judge cards anymore. People try to make out there's a process being followed. If there actually is one then it's a shit process.
People laughed at me a couple of years ago when I said someone should use AI to decide on which infringements get which punishment. The tech has advanced so much I reckon it would work. And besides it can't be any worse than the shit we have now
@canefan said in Hurricanes vs Blues:
@Nepia said in Hurricanes vs Blues:
@African-Monkey said in Hurricanes vs Blues:
@Tim said in Hurricanes vs Blues:
@chchfanatic Great post!
Speaking of Sotutu, how come he got red when Cam Millar got nothing on Friday night?
Watching it again, Sotutu should have only got yellow. Hard done by.
I genuinely have no fucking idea how they judge cards anymore. People try to make out there's a process being followed. If there actually is one then it's a shit process.
People laughed at me a couple of years ago when I said someone should use AI to decide on which infringements get which punishment. The tech has advanced so much I reckon it would work. And besides it can't be any worse than the shit we have now
It would be just as dumb as now because it will have been trained on dumb decisions.
Would we feel better about it knowing that dumb AI was making the decision rather than dumb humans - maybe.
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Lakai and Suafoa both had disappointing games on defence
PL made 10 missed 5
CS made 12 missed 5@Duluth said in Hurricanes vs Blues:
Lakai and Suafoa both had disappointing games on defence
PL made 10 missed 5
CS made 12 missed 5Raw stats yes but maybe with the asterisk of maybe some of the missed tackles were last ditch attempts to cover other's mistakes?
Not arguing that, I didn't watch the game intently, just speculating as sometimes, as we all know, the raw stats don't always tell the whole story.
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@canefan said in Hurricanes vs Blues:
@Nepia said in Hurricanes vs Blues:
@African-Monkey said in Hurricanes vs Blues:
@Tim said in Hurricanes vs Blues:
@chchfanatic Great post!
Speaking of Sotutu, how come he got red when Cam Millar got nothing on Friday night?
Watching it again, Sotutu should have only got yellow. Hard done by.
I genuinely have no fucking idea how they judge cards anymore. People try to make out there's a process being followed. If there actually is one then it's a shit process.
People laughed at me a couple of years ago when I said someone should use AI to decide on which infringements get which punishment. The tech has advanced so much I reckon it would work. And besides it can't be any worse than the shit we have now
It would be just as dumb as now because it will have been trained on dumb decisions.
Would we feel better about it knowing that dumb AI was making the decision rather than dumb humans - maybe.
@Nepia said in Hurricanes vs Blues:
@canefan said in Hurricanes vs Blues:
@Nepia said in Hurricanes vs Blues:
@African-Monkey said in Hurricanes vs Blues:
@Tim said in Hurricanes vs Blues:
@chchfanatic Great post!
Speaking of Sotutu, how come he got red when Cam Millar got nothing on Friday night?
Watching it again, Sotutu should have only got yellow. Hard done by.
I genuinely have no fucking idea how they judge cards anymore. People try to make out there's a process being followed. If there actually is one then it's a shit process.
People laughed at me a couple of years ago when I said someone should use AI to decide on which infringements get which punishment. The tech has advanced so much I reckon it would work. And besides it can't be any worse than the shit we have now
It would be just as dumb as now because it will have been trained on dumb decisions.
Would we feel better about it knowing that dumb AI was making the decision rather than dumb humans - maybe.
I'm sure they can make a library of correct decisions for AI to base it's decisions on. I do that all the time with CF Jr's homework
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@Duluth said in Hurricanes vs Blues:
That Telea try was special. Strange that the clipped versions of it online miss the buildup.. the BB and Clarke runs
Those runs were missing from the official SR highlights too
For those that didn't see the full try, these extended highlights show it at 8:35
Telea's slow eh?
@booboo said in Hurricanes vs Blues:
@Duluth said in Hurricanes vs Blues:
That Telea try was special. Strange that the clipped versions of it online miss the buildup.. the BB and Clarke runs
Those runs were missing from the official SR highlights too
For those that didn't see the full try, these extended highlights show it at 8:35
Telea's slow eh?
He went around Hohepa who is in the running as the slowest back in the comp - I'm not sure this is the example to use to claim Tele'a is fast.
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@Nepia said in Hurricanes vs Blues:
@canefan said in Hurricanes vs Blues:
@Nepia said in Hurricanes vs Blues:
@African-Monkey said in Hurricanes vs Blues:
@Tim said in Hurricanes vs Blues:
@chchfanatic Great post!
Speaking of Sotutu, how come he got red when Cam Millar got nothing on Friday night?
Watching it again, Sotutu should have only got yellow. Hard done by.
I genuinely have no fucking idea how they judge cards anymore. People try to make out there's a process being followed. If there actually is one then it's a shit process.
People laughed at me a couple of years ago when I said someone should use AI to decide on which infringements get which punishment. The tech has advanced so much I reckon it would work. And besides it can't be any worse than the shit we have now
It would be just as dumb as now because it will have been trained on dumb decisions.
Would we feel better about it knowing that dumb AI was making the decision rather than dumb humans - maybe.
I'm sure they can make a library of correct decisions for AI to base it's decisions on. I do that all the time with CF Jr's homework
@canefan said in Hurricanes vs Blues:
@Nepia said in Hurricanes vs Blues:
@canefan said in Hurricanes vs Blues:
@Nepia said in Hurricanes vs Blues:
@African-Monkey said in Hurricanes vs Blues:
@Tim said in Hurricanes vs Blues:
@chchfanatic Great post!
Speaking of Sotutu, how come he got red when Cam Millar got nothing on Friday night?
Watching it again, Sotutu should have only got yellow. Hard done by.
I genuinely have no fucking idea how they judge cards anymore. People try to make out there's a process being followed. If there actually is one then it's a shit process.
People laughed at me a couple of years ago when I said someone should use AI to decide on which infringements get which punishment. The tech has advanced so much I reckon it would work. And besides it can't be any worse than the shit we have now
It would be just as dumb as now because it will have been trained on dumb decisions.
Would we feel better about it knowing that dumb AI was making the decision rather than dumb humans - maybe.
I'm sure they can make a library of correct decisions for AI to base it's decisions on. I do that all the time with CF Jr's homework
Who is making that library?
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@frugby said in Hurricanes vs Blues:
Barrett is far from perfect these days, but I do agree that the Blues improved when he went to 10. I just wonder if some of the Blues players lack the motivation they have in recent years? Blues fans correct me, but I feel they could benefit from injecting some players with something to prove?
I agree with this. I thought it was noticeable guys like C Christie adding some energy.
There's a few big names who look to be going through the motions
@KiwiMurph said in Hurricanes vs Blues:
guys like C Christie adding some energy
He took his chance. I wonder long term his correct position is blindside? He's played there for NH before
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Lakai and Suafoa both had disappointing games on defence
PL made 10 missed 5
CS made 12 missed 5@Duluth said in Hurricanes vs Blues:
Lakai and Suafoa both had disappointing games on defence
PL made 10 missed 5
CS made 12 missed 5Yeah Suafoa is an interesting case. He's our best bet at 6 for now, but a step down from Ioane . Not saying he's not physically commanding, but he's not as physical in the tight as Akira was especially last year.
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@canefan said in Hurricanes vs Blues:
@Nepia said in Hurricanes vs Blues:
@canefan said in Hurricanes vs Blues:
@Nepia said in Hurricanes vs Blues:
@African-Monkey said in Hurricanes vs Blues:
@Tim said in Hurricanes vs Blues:
@chchfanatic Great post!
Speaking of Sotutu, how come he got red when Cam Millar got nothing on Friday night?
Watching it again, Sotutu should have only got yellow. Hard done by.
I genuinely have no fucking idea how they judge cards anymore. People try to make out there's a process being followed. If there actually is one then it's a shit process.
People laughed at me a couple of years ago when I said someone should use AI to decide on which infringements get which punishment. The tech has advanced so much I reckon it would work. And besides it can't be any worse than the shit we have now
It would be just as dumb as now because it will have been trained on dumb decisions.
Would we feel better about it knowing that dumb AI was making the decision rather than dumb humans - maybe.
I'm sure they can make a library of correct decisions for AI to base it's decisions on. I do that all the time with CF Jr's homework
Who is making that library?
@Nepia said in Hurricanes vs Blues:
@canefan said in Hurricanes vs Blues:
@Nepia said in Hurricanes vs Blues:
@canefan said in Hurricanes vs Blues:
@Nepia said in Hurricanes vs Blues:
@African-Monkey said in Hurricanes vs Blues:
@Tim said in Hurricanes vs Blues:
@chchfanatic Great post!
Speaking of Sotutu, how come he got red when Cam Millar got nothing on Friday night?
Watching it again, Sotutu should have only got yellow. Hard done by.
I genuinely have no fucking idea how they judge cards anymore. People try to make out there's a process being followed. If there actually is one then it's a shit process.
People laughed at me a couple of years ago when I said someone should use AI to decide on which infringements get which punishment. The tech has advanced so much I reckon it would work. And besides it can't be any worse than the shit we have now
It would be just as dumb as now because it will have been trained on dumb decisions.
Would we feel better about it knowing that dumb AI was making the decision rather than dumb humans - maybe.
I'm sure they can make a library of correct decisions for AI to base it's decisions on. I do that all the time with CF Jr's homework
Who is making that library?
Just as important, how to agree on criteria and threshold for each card? No simple answer, but the current system is a mess, with vague attempts at guidelines often ignored as referees and TMOs make shit up to suit themselves. But, just as tech has rendered lines people in tennis redundant, and with the NFL apparently about to employ AI for some decisions including deciding on short yardage 1st downs, ultimately the tech will make more consistent decisions
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@booboo said in Hurricanes vs Blues:
@Duluth said in Hurricanes vs Blues:
That Telea try was special. Strange that the clipped versions of it online miss the buildup.. the BB and Clarke runs
Those runs were missing from the official SR highlights too
For those that didn't see the full try, these extended highlights show it at 8:35
Telea's slow eh?
He went around Hohepa who is in the running as the slowest back in the comp - I'm not sure this is the example to use to claim Tele'a is fast.
@KiwiMurph don't talk rubbish, watch again.
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@Tim said in Hurricanes vs Blues:
@chchfanatic Great post!
Speaking of Sotutu, how come he got red when Cam Millar got nothing on Friday night?
Watching it again, Sotutu should have only got yellow. Hard done by.
@African-Monkey said in Hurricanes vs Blues:
Speaking of Sotutu, how come he got red when Cam Millar got nothing on Friday night?
Millar might yet get cited after the fact like Paisami. A poor reflection on BOK.
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@Duluth said in Hurricanes vs Blues:
That Telea try was special. Strange that the clipped versions of it online miss the buildup.. the BB and Clarke runs
Those runs were missing from the official SR highlights too
For those that didn't see the full try, these extended highlights show it at 8:35
Telea's slow eh?
@booboo said in Hurricanes vs Blues:
Telea's slow eh?
Maybe it is a bias as I said he looked like carrying an injury last year but he looked a lot quicker to me than before.
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@canefan said in Hurricanes vs Blues:
@Nepia said in Hurricanes vs Blues:
@African-Monkey said in Hurricanes vs Blues:
@Tim said in Hurricanes vs Blues:
@chchfanatic Great post!
Speaking of Sotutu, how come he got red when Cam Millar got nothing on Friday night?
Watching it again, Sotutu should have only got yellow. Hard done by.
I genuinely have no fucking idea how they judge cards anymore. People try to make out there's a process being followed. If there actually is one then it's a shit process.
People laughed at me a couple of years ago when I said someone should use AI to decide on which infringements get which punishment. The tech has advanced so much I reckon it would work. And besides it can't be any worse than the shit we have now
It would be just as dumb as now because it will have been trained on dumb decisions.
Would we feel better about it knowing that dumb AI was making the decision rather than dumb humans - maybe.
@Nepia said in Hurricanes vs Blues:
@canefan said in Hurricanes vs Blues:
@Nepia said in Hurricanes vs Blues:
@African-Monkey said in Hurricanes vs Blues:
@Tim said in Hurricanes vs Blues:
@chchfanatic Great post!
Speaking of Sotutu, how come he got red when Cam Millar got nothing on Friday night?
Watching it again, Sotutu should have only got yellow. Hard done by.
I genuinely have no fucking idea how they judge cards anymore. People try to make out there's a process being followed. If there actually is one then it's a shit process.
People laughed at me a couple of years ago when I said someone should use AI to decide on which infringements get which punishment. The tech has advanced so much I reckon it would work. And besides it can't be any worse than the shit we have now
It would be just as dumb as now because it will have been trained on dumb decisions.
Exactly. Imagine the outcome of a dataset that includes the howlers of Gardner, Leckie, Way, Murphy, Seconds, Ravashinge, Jonker...
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At the end of last year I wrote a bit about how I think rugby has changed and that "taking the three" isn't always a great option.
Canes appear to have had the better of most of the stats and kicked five penalty goals, while the Blues kicked none.
I think the Canes would have been better kicking to the corner more often - and especially in Super rugby this year, where tries are coming thick and fast. Might have been a strategy that cost them the match.
