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  • SouthernMannS Offline
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    SouthernMann
    wrote on last edited by SouthernMann
    #646

    Should of, could of, didn't.

    From a user experience perspective. Having some form of coverage along the Fran Wilde Walkway would be a big positive. Not going to happen though. Too much money has been paid to Fulton Hogan fixing pipes.

    Problem with adjusting price is that if 15k turn up at an average price point of $50. Then 16,500 turn up at an average price point of $35. Then takings drop by $170,000.

    What puts me off going to the Stadium in Wellington (unless the Highlanders are playing), is often there are train replacement busses. What is normally a 20 minute train ride, becomes an hour long LOTR journey on a jam packed bus. Then the same home. What should be 40 minutes both ways, before a few beers. Turns into two plus hours for the trip. That would be the main reason people from outside the city just can't be bothered.

    Apparel is an interesting question. The cost of Super jerseys is very similar to NRL jerseys. A-league is about $110. NBA about $140 for a singlet. It is all much of a muchness at about $110 to $150.

    Timing of games often gets brought up. 7.05 is too late for some. My year old kid goes to bed before then. So can't take him. Afternoon games won't work for people working during the day on weekends or those playing sport. Probably the best option is to have a couple of afternoon games. Just to mix things up.

    Reasoning depends. Different reasons for different people. Results, accessibility, weather, time of games,

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    • canefanC canefan

      @KiwiMurph said in Super Rugby 2025:

      @Canes4life said in Super Rugby 2025:

      BIG REASON: PEOPLE JUST CAN'T AFFORD IT RIGHT NOW.

      Yet they can afford to go to Warriors and Auckland FC games......

      Both have large numbers of passionate fans. I don't think I'd use that word to describe most Blues fans... Or perhaps most NZ SR fans. Most of us are more happy to watch on TV than head to the ground

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      nzzp
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      #647

      @canefan said in Super Rugby 2025:

      @KiwiMurph said in Super Rugby 2025:

      @Canes4life said in Super Rugby 2025:

      BIG REASON: PEOPLE JUST CAN'T AFFORD IT RIGHT NOW.

      Yet they can afford to go to Warriors and Auckland FC games......

      Both have large numbers of passionate fans. I don't think I'd use that word to describe most Blues fans... Or perhaps most NZ SR fans. Most of us are more happy to watch on TV than head to the ground

      Any Blues fan who supports after the horror run we had with coaching and administration gets to be called passionate. As I say to my wife, proof that I don't give up on a lost cause.

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      • nzzpN nzzp

        @canefan said in Super Rugby 2025:

        @KiwiMurph said in Super Rugby 2025:

        @Canes4life said in Super Rugby 2025:

        BIG REASON: PEOPLE JUST CAN'T AFFORD IT RIGHT NOW.

        Yet they can afford to go to Warriors and Auckland FC games......

        Both have large numbers of passionate fans. I don't think I'd use that word to describe most Blues fans... Or perhaps most NZ SR fans. Most of us are more happy to watch on TV than head to the ground

        Any Blues fan who supports after the horror run we had with coaching and administration gets to be called passionate. As I say to my wife, proof that I don't give up on a lost cause.

        canefanC Online
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        canefan
        wrote on last edited by
        #648

        @nzzp said in Super Rugby 2025:

        @canefan said in Super Rugby 2025:

        @KiwiMurph said in Super Rugby 2025:

        @Canes4life said in Super Rugby 2025:

        BIG REASON: PEOPLE JUST CAN'T AFFORD IT RIGHT NOW.

        Yet they can afford to go to Warriors and Auckland FC games......

        Both have large numbers of passionate fans. I don't think I'd use that word to describe most Blues fans... Or perhaps most NZ SR fans. Most of us are more happy to watch on TV than head to the ground

        Any Blues fan who supports after the horror run we had with coaching and administration gets to be called passionate. As I say to my wife, proof that I don't give up on a lost cause.

        In general, SR fans in NZ are not as passionate as fans from other teams such as the Wahs, and they know about losing. AFC is still young, the test will be if people still show up after several losing seasons

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        • canefanC canefan

          @nzzp said in Super Rugby 2025:

          @canefan said in Super Rugby 2025:

          @KiwiMurph said in Super Rugby 2025:

          @Canes4life said in Super Rugby 2025:

          BIG REASON: PEOPLE JUST CAN'T AFFORD IT RIGHT NOW.

          Yet they can afford to go to Warriors and Auckland FC games......

          Both have large numbers of passionate fans. I don't think I'd use that word to describe most Blues fans... Or perhaps most NZ SR fans. Most of us are more happy to watch on TV than head to the ground

          Any Blues fan who supports after the horror run we had with coaching and administration gets to be called passionate. As I say to my wife, proof that I don't give up on a lost cause.

          In general, SR fans in NZ are not as passionate as fans from other teams such as the Wahs, and they know about losing. AFC is still young, the test will be if people still show up after several losing seasons

          nzzpN Online
          nzzpN Online
          nzzp
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          #649

          @canefan said in Super Rugby 2025:

          @nzzp said in Super Rugby 2025:

          @canefan said in Super Rugby 2025:

          @KiwiMurph said in Super Rugby 2025:

          @Canes4life said in Super Rugby 2025:

          BIG REASON: PEOPLE JUST CAN'T AFFORD IT RIGHT NOW.

          Yet they can afford to go to Warriors and Auckland FC games......

          Both have large numbers of passionate fans. I don't think I'd use that word to describe most Blues fans... Or perhaps most NZ SR fans. Most of us are more happy to watch on TV than head to the ground

          Any Blues fan who supports after the horror run we had with coaching and administration gets to be called passionate. As I say to my wife, proof that I don't give up on a lost cause.

          In general, SR fans in NZ are not as passionate as fans from other teams such as the Wahs, and they know about losing. AFC is still young, the test will be if people still show up after several losing seasons

          NRL is properly tribal.

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          • nzzpN nzzp

            @canefan said in Super Rugby 2025:

            @nzzp said in Super Rugby 2025:

            @canefan said in Super Rugby 2025:

            @KiwiMurph said in Super Rugby 2025:

            @Canes4life said in Super Rugby 2025:

            BIG REASON: PEOPLE JUST CAN'T AFFORD IT RIGHT NOW.

            Yet they can afford to go to Warriors and Auckland FC games......

            Both have large numbers of passionate fans. I don't think I'd use that word to describe most Blues fans... Or perhaps most NZ SR fans. Most of us are more happy to watch on TV than head to the ground

            Any Blues fan who supports after the horror run we had with coaching and administration gets to be called passionate. As I say to my wife, proof that I don't give up on a lost cause.

            In general, SR fans in NZ are not as passionate as fans from other teams such as the Wahs, and they know about losing. AFC is still young, the test will be if people still show up after several losing seasons

            NRL is properly tribal.

            KiwiwombleK Online
            KiwiwombleK Online
            Kiwiwomble
            wrote on last edited by Kiwiwomble
            #650

            @nzzp i feel thats because theyre clubs rather than "regions", on the surface they still push the "locals playing around" the corner angle, no matter how professional they become

            @canefan said in Super Rugby 2025:

            @nzzp said in Super Rugby 2025:

            @canefan said in Super Rugby 2025:

            @KiwiMurph said in Super Rugby 2025:

            @Canes4life said in Super Rugby 2025:

            BIG REASON: PEOPLE JUST CAN'T AFFORD IT RIGHT NOW.

            Yet they can afford to go to Warriors and Auckland FC games......

            Both have large numbers of passionate fans. I don't think I'd use that word to describe most Blues fans... Or perhaps most NZ SR fans. Most of us are more happy to watch on TV than head to the ground

            Any Blues fan who supports after the horror run we had with coaching and administration gets to be called passionate. As I say to my wife, proof that I don't give up on a lost cause.

            In general, SR fans in NZ are not as passionate as fans from other teams such as the Wahs, and they know about losing. AFC is still young, the test will be if people still show up after several losing seasons

            partly it will depend on how long they can keep the winning going, if they can keep the winning going long enough for the idea of going every week to become normal for people, it will be less of a flash in the pan, it will be people routine

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            • SouthernMannS Offline
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              SouthernMann
              wrote on last edited by
              #651

              The A-league also runs during the best past of the year weather wise. With the season going from October to May. 20odd degrees in Auckland, go and watch some footy. How good.

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              • RapidoR Offline
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                #652

                Need even louder music and even bigger gas ball explosions. Solved.

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                • BovidaeB Offline
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                  Bovidae
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                  #653

                  I don't know who is responsible - SRP, NZR, the Hurricanes or the Drua themselves, but this is piss poor.

                  https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360606452/lote-tuqiri-and-nemani-nadolo-condemn-super-rugby-pacific-travel-treatment-fijian-drua

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                  • mariner4lifeM Offline
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                    mariner4life
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #654

                    i think, from what i have read, it's the bus company's fault. And rather than wait for another bus they just piled in to the gear truck?

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                    • KiwiwombleK Online
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                      Kiwiwomble
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #655

                      reading through it and it feels like the bus thing was the bus companies fault...you book it and it doesnt turn up...not sure what any of those parties could have done

                      re the hotel it kind of depends on if they requested one before, i think most hotels would struggle to give a late checkout for i dont know 20 rooms assuming theyre doubling up. Id like to know a bit more about their travel plans, they drive back to wellington that night and flew out?

                      i could be wrong, maybe the competition arranges all this stuff

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                      • sparkyS Offline
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                        wrote on last edited by sparky
                        #656

                        Losses by Blues, Chiefs and the Canes this weekend. The Crusaders rebuilding at best and the Highlanders short of big names.

                        A huge opportunity for teams from outside NZ to challenge for the Super Title this year.

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                        • sparkyS sparky

                          Losses by Blues, Chiefs and the Canes this weekend. The Crusaders rebuilding at best and the Highlanders short of big names.

                          A huge opportunity for teams from outside NZ to challenge for the Super Title this year.

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                          canefan
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #657

                          @sparky said in Super Rugby 2025:

                          Losses by Blues, Chiefs and the Canes this weekend. The Crusaders rebuilding at best and the Highlanders short of big names.

                          A huge opportunity for teams from outside NZ to challenge for the Super Title this year.

                          Not to mention the injury list for NZ teams is lengthy and growing by the game

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                          • sparkyS sparky

                            Losses by Blues, Chiefs and the Canes this weekend. The Crusaders rebuilding at best and the Highlanders short of big names.

                            A huge opportunity for teams from outside NZ to challenge for the Super Title this year.

                            GrooterG Do not disturb
                            GrooterG Do not disturb
                            Grooter
                            wrote on last edited by Grooter
                            #658

                            @sparky we'll be alright sparky, sure don't have the big names, it was addressed back in November that only 4 of the Clan were apart of the 65 that toured Europe in either ABs or XV. Certainly not short of motivation

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                            • SouthernMannS Offline
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                              wrote on last edited by SouthernMann
                              #659

                              If the Crusaders beat the Reds by 15 to 29 to Highlanders will move up a position during our bye week. That will result will see five teams in the comp on nine points. It is a great comp this year

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                              • Dan54D Offline
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                                By geez, this is what we wanted from comp isn't it? Don't know who is going to win. I loving it!

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                                • canefanC canefan

                                  @nzzp said in Super Rugby 2025:

                                  @canefan said in Super Rugby 2025:

                                  @KiwiMurph said in Super Rugby 2025:

                                  @Canes4life said in Super Rugby 2025:

                                  BIG REASON: PEOPLE JUST CAN'T AFFORD IT RIGHT NOW.

                                  Yet they can afford to go to Warriors and Auckland FC games......

                                  Both have large numbers of passionate fans. I don't think I'd use that word to describe most Blues fans... Or perhaps most NZ SR fans. Most of us are more happy to watch on TV than head to the ground

                                  Any Blues fan who supports after the horror run we had with coaching and administration gets to be called passionate. As I say to my wife, proof that I don't give up on a lost cause.

                                  In general, SR fans in NZ are not as passionate as fans from other teams such as the Wahs, and they know about losing. AFC is still young, the test will be if people still show up after several losing seasons

                                  NepiaN Online
                                  NepiaN Online
                                  Nepia
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                                  #661

                                  @canefan said in Super Rugby 2025:

                                  @nzzp said in Super Rugby 2025:

                                  @canefan said in Super Rugby 2025:

                                  @KiwiMurph said in Super Rugby 2025:

                                  @Canes4life said in Super Rugby 2025:

                                  BIG REASON: PEOPLE JUST CAN'T AFFORD IT RIGHT NOW.

                                  Yet they can afford to go to Warriors and Auckland FC games......

                                  Both have large numbers of passionate fans. I don't think I'd use that word to describe most Blues fans... Or perhaps most NZ SR fans. Most of us are more happy to watch on TV than head to the ground

                                  Any Blues fan who supports after the horror run we had with coaching and administration gets to be called passionate. As I say to my wife, proof that I don't give up on a lost cause.

                                  In general, SR fans in NZ are not as passionate as fans from other teams such as the Wahs, and they know about losing. AFC is still young, the test will be if people still show up after several losing seasons

                                  I know I'm late to this discussion, but didn't the Blues pretty much get the same crowd average in Auckland last year as the Warriors?

                                  The big crowds for the Warriors aren't due to the passionate fans, it's the bandwagoners who may or may not stay when things go south. When they get used to the drudgery of following a losing Warriors team like us old fans then that will be the test of the Warriors hype train v no one cares about SR (which the Sky viewing figures dispute).

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                                  • NepiaN Nepia

                                    @canefan said in Super Rugby 2025:

                                    @nzzp said in Super Rugby 2025:

                                    @canefan said in Super Rugby 2025:

                                    @KiwiMurph said in Super Rugby 2025:

                                    @Canes4life said in Super Rugby 2025:

                                    BIG REASON: PEOPLE JUST CAN'T AFFORD IT RIGHT NOW.

                                    Yet they can afford to go to Warriors and Auckland FC games......

                                    Both have large numbers of passionate fans. I don't think I'd use that word to describe most Blues fans... Or perhaps most NZ SR fans. Most of us are more happy to watch on TV than head to the ground

                                    Any Blues fan who supports after the horror run we had with coaching and administration gets to be called passionate. As I say to my wife, proof that I don't give up on a lost cause.

                                    In general, SR fans in NZ are not as passionate as fans from other teams such as the Wahs, and they know about losing. AFC is still young, the test will be if people still show up after several losing seasons

                                    I know I'm late to this discussion, but didn't the Blues pretty much get the same crowd average in Auckland last year as the Warriors?

                                    The big crowds for the Warriors aren't due to the passionate fans, it's the bandwagoners who may or may not stay when things go south. When they get used to the drudgery of following a losing Warriors team like us old fans then that will be the test of the Warriors hype train v no one cares about SR (which the Sky viewing figures dispute).

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                                    KiwiMurph
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                                    #662

                                    @Nepia said in Super Rugby 2025:

                                    I know I'm late to this discussion, but didn't the Blues pretty much get the same crowd average in Auckland last year as the Warriors?

                                    The big crowds for the Warriors aren't due to the passionate fans, it's the bandwagoners who may or may not stay when things go south.

                                    The difference is the Warriors missed the playoffs whereas the Blues were the best team in the comp

                                    Super teams need to do a much better job of engaging their fanbases

                                    The strong competitive start to Super Rugby this season is a good start

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                                      @Nepia said in Super Rugby 2025:

                                      I know I'm late to this discussion, but didn't the Blues pretty much get the same crowd average in Auckland last year as the Warriors?

                                      The big crowds for the Warriors aren't due to the passionate fans, it's the bandwagoners who may or may not stay when things go south.

                                      The difference is the Warriors missed the playoffs whereas the Blues were the best team in the comp

                                      Super teams need to do a much better job of engaging their fanbases

                                      The strong competitive start to Super Rugby this season is a good start

                                      canefanC Online
                                      canefanC Online
                                      canefan
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #663

                                      @KiwiMurph said in Super Rugby 2025:

                                      @Nepia said in Super Rugby 2025:

                                      I know I'm late to this discussion, but didn't the Blues pretty much get the same crowd average in Auckland last year as the Warriors?

                                      The big crowds for the Warriors aren't due to the passionate fans, it's the bandwagoners who may or may not stay when things go south.

                                      The difference is the Warriors missed the playoffs whereas the Blues were the best team in the comp

                                      Super teams need to do a much better job of engaging their fanbases

                                      The strong competitive start to Super Rugby this season is a good start

                                      The Warriors do a lot in terms of fan engagement. They are big into social media in particular (or at least they used to be)

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                                      • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                        @Nepia said in Super Rugby 2025:

                                        I know I'm late to this discussion, but didn't the Blues pretty much get the same crowd average in Auckland last year as the Warriors?

                                        The big crowds for the Warriors aren't due to the passionate fans, it's the bandwagoners who may or may not stay when things go south.

                                        The difference is the Warriors missed the playoffs whereas the Blues were the best team in the comp

                                        Super teams need to do a much better job of engaging their fanbases

                                        The strong competitive start to Super Rugby this season is a good start

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                                        Nepia
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                                        @KiwiMurph said in Super Rugby 2025:

                                        @Nepia said in Super Rugby 2025:

                                        I know I'm late to this discussion, but didn't the Blues pretty much get the same crowd average in Auckland last year as the Warriors?

                                        The big crowds for the Warriors aren't due to the passionate fans, it's the bandwagoners who may or may not stay when things go south.

                                        The difference is the Warriors missed the playoffs whereas the Blues were the best team in the comp

                                        Super teams need to do a much better job of engaging their fanbases

                                        The strong competitive start to Super Rugby this season is a good start

                                        I agree with that, but there are still passionate fans that are going to the games.

                                        Also, we still don't know if 2024 was part of the 2023 success bump for the Warriors. If they have a crap year this year (and a look at their squad suggests they will) and the crowds hold then maybe we can say that. But the one dude I know who went regularly last year got cheap enough tickets that he was one of the people who didn't turn up to one of the sold out matches when something else came up.

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