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Black Caps in India

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  • KiwiPieK Offline
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    The all decisions even themselves out argument is flawed if KW gets a shocker compared to Guppy - we all know Guppy could get 5 LBW reprieves and not make a run whereas KW could bat all day if he escapes a marginal call.

    What really shits me though is that I can't see what Hawkeye would have said about it so my righteous indignation is curbed. It also enables Doull to talk himself into saying "it's a great decision" even when he really has no idea

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      Does it matter if Ronchi opens or bats at 5 in india? They're gonna start with spin anyway..

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        Does it matter if Ronchi opens or bats at 5 in india? They're gonna start with spin anyway..

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        @mimic said in Black Caps in India:

        Does it matter if Ronchi opens or bats at 5 in india? They're gonna start with spin anyway..

        Dunno, its often a pshycological thing. Guys who are outstanding at 5 & shithouse at 4. Look a Rahul Dravid, incredible no. 3, often when India had a guarenteed wicket opening, but move him up to open & he hated it & his average dropped 5 runs. Michael Clarke averaged 60 at 5, 30 at 4.

        Ronchi has spent his career batting in the middle / lower middle order. I'm in the "it aint broke dony fix it camp". Plus if we move Guppy to 5 for 2 tests & he averages 29 hat have we learned? Its almost "here you go mate, either score 100 in a new slot, in India, on turners, against one of the top spinners of the last 20 years or your career is over, no presure"

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          @mimic said in Black Caps in India:

          Does it matter if Ronchi opens or bats at 5 in india? They're gonna start with spin anyway..

          Dunno, its often a pshycological thing. Guys who are outstanding at 5 & shithouse at 4. Look a Rahul Dravid, incredible no. 3, often when India had a guarenteed wicket opening, but move him up to open & he hated it & his average dropped 5 runs. Michael Clarke averaged 60 at 5, 30 at 4.

          Ronchi has spent his career batting in the middle / lower middle order. I'm in the "it aint broke dony fix it camp". Plus if we move Guppy to 5 for 2 tests & he averages 29 hat have we learned? Its almost "here you go mate, either score 100 in a new slot, in India, on turners, against one of the top spinners of the last 20 years or your career is over, no presure"

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          Jimmy Neesham is still, shocklingly, crocked. So wont be playing in the second test

          Jeets flights got fucked, so he arrives 24 hours before the start of the next test.

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            Jimmy Neesham is still, shocklingly, crocked. So wont be playing in the second test

            Jeets flights got fucked, so he arrives 24 hours before the start of the next test.

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            @gollum said in Black Caps in India:

            Jimmy Neesham is still, shocklingly, crocked. So wont be playing in the second test

            Jeets flights got fucked, so he arrives 24 hours before the start of the next test.

            Getting your excuses re: Jeets in early, good to see.

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              @gollum said in Black Caps in India:

              Ronchi has spent his career batting in the middle / lower middle order. I'm in the "it aint broke dony fix it camp". Plus if we move Guppy to 5 for 2 tests & he averages 29 hat have we learned? Its almost "here you go mate, either score 100 in a new slot, in India, on turners, against one of the top spinners of the last 20 years or your career is over, no presure"

              I think they probably locked Guppy in as the opener for all the tests when they left Raval at home. In part, that might have been a psychological ploy to give Guppy confidence that his place isn't on a knife edge (i.e. he's got 6 chances to make runs) and in part it might have been, well we're not going to throw Raval to the Indian spinners on debut. Pakistan at home might be an easier start.

              Agree - leave Ronchi at five.

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                @gollum said in Black Caps in India:

                Jimmy Neesham is still, shocklingly, crocked. So wont be playing in the second test

                Jeets flights got fucked, so he arrives 24 hours before the start of the next test.

                Getting your excuses re: Jeets in early, good to see.

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                @No-Quarter said in Black Caps in India:

                @gollum said in Black Caps in India:

                Jimmy Neesham is still, shocklingly, crocked. So wont be playing in the second test

                Jeets flights got fucked, so he arrives 24 hours before the start of the next test.

                Getting your excuses re: Jeets in early, good to see.

                I'll double down -

                "175 Wickets for offspinner Jeetan Patel in first-class matches since the start of 2015, the most by any bowler. He has been included in the squad in place of injured Mark Craig. He last played a Test in January 2013. This year, so far, he has taken 84 wickets in 22 first-class matches, also the most by any bowler. "

                Also Kane has the squirts apparently but should be ok to shit himself while batting play

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                  @No-Quarter said in Black Caps in India:

                  @gollum said in Black Caps in India:

                  Jimmy Neesham is still, shocklingly, crocked. So wont be playing in the second test

                  Jeets flights got fucked, so he arrives 24 hours before the start of the next test.

                  Getting your excuses re: Jeets in early, good to see.

                  I'll double down -

                  "175 Wickets for offspinner Jeetan Patel in first-class matches since the start of 2015, the most by any bowler. He has been included in the squad in place of injured Mark Craig. He last played a Test in January 2013. This year, so far, he has taken 84 wickets in 22 first-class matches, also the most by any bowler. "

                  Also Kane has the squirts apparently but should be ok to shit himself while batting play

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                  #188

                  @gollum Nope Kane is goooonne

                  Rosco to captain.

                  We are boned.

                  http://nzh.tw/11720187

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                    @gollum Nope Kane is goooonne

                    Rosco to captain.

                    We are boned.

                    http://nzh.tw/11720187

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                    #189

                    @Virgil So Rosco to lead from the front! :fingers_crossed:

                    Look on the bright side, we may win the toss for once...

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                      I think it's a good thing. I'm sure Kane was due twin failures so watch him get a ton on his return.

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                        #191

                        FFS. At least we have Jeets to spin us to victory...

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                        • No QuarterN No Quarter

                          FFS. At least we have Jeets to spin us to victory...

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                          @No-Quarter said in Black Caps in India:

                          FFS. At least we have Jeets to spin us to victory...

                          ....and I thought my post was full of shit......

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                            I've changed my avatar as a show of support for @gollum and Jeets.

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                              I've changed my avatar as a show of support for @gollum and Jeets.

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                              Ah, fuck it. India wins the toss AGAIN.

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                                I've changed my avatar as a show of support for @gollum and Jeets.

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                                @No-Quarter said in Black Caps in India:

                                I've changed my avatar as a show of support for @gollum and Jeets.

                                Bring back Paul Wiseman and Matthew Hart

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                                  Christ - not content with a 197 run victory in the first test (or perhaps in terror of The Jeetan) the Indians have recruited Suzi to nobble Kane.

                                  To be fair, she's fairly ubiquitous over there - they recruited her to nobble me last time I was there and I doubt a bit of gentle legspin that doesn't turn was likely to threaten them!

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                                    Matt Henry - off to a good start - Dhawan chops on and they're 1/1.

                                    At this rate we'll get them out for 10! 🙂

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                                      Henry >> Southee

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                                        Henry >> Southee

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                                        @SammyC said in Black Caps in India:

                                        Henry >> Southee

                                        For at least the last year...

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                                          good shit from henry. and jeets tearing them apart is a given - so now all we need is nicholls to prove he should be there instead of williamson and we're laughing.

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