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EPL 2024/2025

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    Leaving aside the ethical issues and the exponential growth in the money sports generate the underlying issue for me is the way almost all sports have become 'product' and the marketers have convinced everyone that more is better, when the reality is the complete opposite.

    Wall to wall sport available 24 hours a day and it is, in the main, boringly predictable.

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      On Newcastle, I believe their success has been somewhat due to not being able to spend too much money. They have spent big to bring in the likes of Isak, Gordon, Tonali, Bruno, Botman but being restricted has meant building a team around Burn, Schar, Joelinton, Murphy. Chelsea show how difficult it is to throw cash around and still build a team.

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        On Newcastle, I believe their success has been somewhat due to not being able to spend too much money. They have spent big to bring in the likes of Isak, Gordon, Tonali, Bruno, Botman but being restricted has meant building a team around Burn, Schar, Joelinton, Murphy. Chelsea show how difficult it is to throw cash around and still build a team.

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        @KiwiPie said in EPL 2024/2025:

        On Newcastle, I believe their success has been somewhat due to not being able to spend too much money. They have spent big to bring in the likes of Isak, Gordon, Tonali, Bruno, Botman but being restricted has meant building a team around Burn, Schar, Joelinton, Murphy. Chelsea show how difficult it is to throw cash around and still build a team.

        You only have to look at the success Forest are having now to know you don't need an astronomical budget. It takes more skill to spend less and actually build a proper squad

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          @KiwiPie said in EPL 2024/2025:

          On Newcastle, I believe their success has been somewhat due to not being able to spend too much money. They have spent big to bring in the likes of Isak, Gordon, Tonali, Bruno, Botman but being restricted has meant building a team around Burn, Schar, Joelinton, Murphy. Chelsea show how difficult it is to throw cash around and still build a team.

          You only have to look at the success Forest are having now to know you don't need an astronomical budget. It takes more skill to spend less and actually build a proper squad

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          @canefan Forest have spent 360 mill quid since making it back to the PL placing them in the top 6 for player purchases.

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            @canefan Forest have spent 360 mill quid since making it back to the PL placing them in the top 6 for player purchases.

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            @dogmeat said in EPL 2024/2025:

            @canefan Forest have spent 360 mill quid since making it back to the PL placing them in the top 6 for player purchases.

            Not small change. How does that rank with other teams? Sorry, too lazy to ask google

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              This is net spend for the last 5 years apparently plus 10 years underneath

              https://www.transfermarkt.com/premier-league/fuenfjahresvergleich/wettbewerb/GB1

              1. Chelsea -947m

              2. United -683m

              3. Spurs -571m

              4. Arsenal -556m

              5. Newcastle -422m

              6. Everton +33m

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                This is net spend for the last 5 years apparently plus 10 years underneath

                https://www.transfermarkt.com/premier-league/fuenfjahresvergleich/wettbewerb/GB1

                1. Chelsea -947m

                2. United -683m

                3. Spurs -571m

                4. Arsenal -556m

                5. Newcastle -422m

                6. Everton +33m

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                @KiwiPie said in EPL 2024/2025:

                This is net spend for the last 5 years apparently plus 10 years underneath

                https://www.transfermarkt.com/premier-league/fuenfjahresvergleich/wettbewerb/GB1

                1. Chelsea -947m

                2. United -683m

                3. Spurs -571m

                4. Arsenal -556m

                5. Newcastle -422m

                6. Everton +33m

                So Forest's spend rank is lower than their EPL table rank. My Spurs on the other hand, have spent a significant sum and got nothing to show for it. Mainly because they have paid a lot for some prospects that can't help the squad win consistently now, instead of buying battle hardened EPL tested players who can. Utd also guilty of spending lots of cash but not building a cohesive competitve team

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                  That list from before was meant to show Everton in 20th place - the only team with a positive balance. Brighton would have joined them except for their big summer splurge.

                  And here's a female footballer who, like Stefan Kuntz, should probably avoid joining an English club

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                  In addition, this UEFA Nations League is more exciting than the Euros - all 8 teams are good, 3 ties went to extra time, 2 to penalties, the other tie was a 5-4 aggregate thriller. 21 goals in 4 games, fun.

                  France beat Croatia on pens after 2-2
                  Germany beat Italy 5-4
                  Portugal beat Denmark 5-3 after extra time
                  Spain beat Netherlands on pens after 5-5

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                    That list from before was meant to show Everton in 20th place - the only team with a positive balance. Brighton would have joined them except for their big summer splurge.

                    And here's a female footballer who, like Stefan Kuntz, should probably avoid joining an English club

                    image.png

                    In addition, this UEFA Nations League is more exciting than the Euros - all 8 teams are good, 3 ties went to extra time, 2 to penalties, the other tie was a 5-4 aggregate thriller. 21 goals in 4 games, fun.

                    France beat Croatia on pens after 2-2
                    Germany beat Italy 5-4
                    Portugal beat Denmark 5-3 after extra time
                    Spain beat Netherlands on pens after 5-5

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                    bayimports
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                    @KiwiPie said in EPL 2024/2025:

                    And here's a female footballer who, like Stefan Kuntz, should probably avoid joining an English club

                    A new NRL player started this year, normally I would agree by not joining a club, but given this one is in Australia, Thomas Cant fits right in with the Australian vernacular

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                      Aston Villa into the FA Cup Semi Final. Happy Days.

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                        We didnt have kerkez or huijsen (which is likely for next summer) but no attack from depth as a result, strangely flat and got beaten by a better City side, our first qtr final in the cup regardless

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                          Bit gutted at Fulham's loss. Paid price for not scoring when we were all over Palace.

                          Might have been different if Wharton had been sent off which in a different game he might have been but reality is for the second time in a row at the Cottage Fulham were outgunned and out thought by Palace. I reckon they have a good shot against Villa. As have Forest against City

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                            Aston Villa into the FA Cup Semi Final. Happy Days.

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                            @sparky said in EPL 2024/2025:

                            Aston Villa into the FA Cup Semi Final. Happy Days.

                            Can we end our 68 year drought in this competition?

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                              Bit gutted at Fulham's loss. Paid price for not scoring when we were all over Palace.

                              Might have been different if Wharton had been sent off which in a different game he might have been but reality is for the second time in a row at the Cottage Fulham were outgunned and out thought by Palace. I reckon they have a good shot against Villa. As have Forest against City

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                              @dogmeat said in EPL 2024/2025:

                              Bit gutted at Fulham's loss. Paid price for not scoring when we were all over Palace.

                              Might have been different if Wharton had been sent off which in a different game he might have been but reality is for the second time in a row at the Cottage Fulham were outgunned and out thought by Palace. I reckon they have a good shot against Villa. As have Forest against City

                              Palace didn't do much and then it was 2 quick goals and all over. Clinical stuff. Good win for Forest today means their top 4/5 place is looking pretty certain barring a late collapse - all the teams below them are trading blows so maybe 3 more wins will seal it for them, which might make that semi easier to focus on. 3 penalty shootout wins in a row in the cup, they are hardly smashing their way to it.

                              And Wolves won to definitely condemn the 3 worst sides to do down - 9 wins between them in 87 games so no real prospect in either of Ipswich/Leicester winning 6 in 9 just to give themselves a chance. A good chance Southampton will be relegated after this coming weekend.

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                                @dogmeat youre not alone as a team to drop points against teams you shouldnt lol

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                                  Big win for Villa over Notts Forest today.

                                  Unai Emery is cooking something very special at Villa Park: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/crlnjwggk9jo

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                                    Big win for Villa over Notts Forest today.

                                    Unai Emery is cooking something very special at Villa Park: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/crlnjwggk9jo

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                                    @sparky said in EPL 2024/2025:

                                    Big win for Villa over Notts Forest today.

                                    Unai Emery is cooking something very special at Villa Park: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/crlnjwggk9jo

                                    The January transfer window has saved our season. We were in decline until our additions came in.

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                                      https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSrU2rM72/

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                                        The Iwobi goal yesterday showed what might be the first case ever of a triple defensive assist. Earlier in the season in the first Manc derby, Nunes did a double assist by giving the ball to Garnacho and then rushing back to clatter into him to give away a penalty.

                                        For the Iwobi goal, firstly Robertson passes across the front of the area to Iwobi and then rushes back into the middle. Iwobi's shot is blocked into the air and then Robertson heads it - straight back to Iwobi. Iwobi's shot is then heading straight at the keeper until Robertson intervenes to chest it past the keeper. A defensive triple assist.

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                                          Those Rice free kicks were sweet...

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