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Highlanders 2025

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    @Grooter I’m reading that as ‘he’s going to be replaced by Tengblad at the end of the season’ not gone for the season already. He’s fully contracted and I can’t imagine JJ dropping him from the squad mid season.

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      @frugby I wonder if he even makes the third year of his contract.

      They don’t seem to view him as a development project like Whaanga or Wingham. Wonder if they could pay him out and fill the slot with another player? Malachi Wrampling - Alec, Fletcher Anderson or Taylor Cahill are all off contract players stuck behind all blacks who are unlikely to get much game time. Picking up two of those three could be a good shout.

      Cahill is a lock, but I feel like when we do loose Dunshea in a season or two we will need the experience of four dedicated locks (Holland, Cahill, Tengblad and Stodart.)

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      @handa457 said in Highlanders 2025:

      @frugby I wonder if he even makes the third year of his contract.

      They don’t seem to view him as a development project like Whaanga or Wingham. Wonder if they could pay him out and fill the slot with another player? Malachi Wrampling - Alec, Fletcher Anderson or Taylor Cahill are all off contract players stuck behind all blacks who are unlikely to get much game time. Picking up two of those three could be a good shout.

      Cahill is a lock, but I feel like when we do loose Dunshea in a season or two we will need the experience of four dedicated locks (Holland, Cahill, Tengblad and Stodart.)

      Fletcher Anderson is signed until 2027

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        @Bovidae said in Highlanders 2025:

        If Tangitau has indicated he wants to return to Auckland before his contract expires, I think JJ wouldn't hesitate to drop him, and he'd be playing club rugby for the rest of the SR season.

        I absolutely hope JJ would not be that petty. Not only would it be cutting off his nose to spite his face, it is also fucking with the career of a young player.

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        @Crazy-Horse said in Highlanders 2025:

        @Bovidae said in Highlanders 2025:

        If Tangitau has indicated he wants to return to Auckland before his contract expires, I think JJ wouldn't hesitate to drop him, and he'd be playing club rugby for the rest of the SR season.

        I absolutely hope JJ would not be that petty. Not only would it be cutting off his nose to spite his face, it is also fucking with the career of a young player.

        not really fucking with a young player if that player has already secured a deal to go back to the blues

        easing in someone different for the rest of the season would be the responsible thing to do for the team long term

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          The real question you should all be asking is why the fuck would he want to play for the Blues right now?

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            Good to see Fakatava removed from the injury list. Hopefully he gets some minutes in club footy this weekend and is back in the 23 for the Drua next week.

            Jonah Lowe also removed from the list.

            Injury update:
            Oliver Haig (Foot / 1-2 weeks )
            Jacob Ratumaitavuki-Kneepkens (Neck / 1-2 weeks)
            Finn Hurley (Quad / TBC)
            Nikora Broughton (Rib Injury/ 1-2 weeks)
            Hugh Renton (Groin /1-2 weeks)

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            • Landers92L Landers92

              Good to see Fakatava removed from the injury list. Hopefully he gets some minutes in club footy this weekend and is back in the 23 for the Drua next week.

              Jonah Lowe also removed from the list.

              Injury update:
              Oliver Haig (Foot / 1-2 weeks )
              Jacob Ratumaitavuki-Kneepkens (Neck / 1-2 weeks)
              Finn Hurley (Quad / TBC)
              Nikora Broughton (Rib Injury/ 1-2 weeks)
              Hugh Renton (Groin /1-2 weeks)

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              @Landers92 said in Highlanders 2025:

              Jonah Lowe also removed from the list.

              Game changer.

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              • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                @Landers92 said in Highlanders 2025:

                Jonah Lowe also removed from the list.

                Game changer.

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                @Canes4life said in Highlanders 2025:

                @Landers92 said in Highlanders 2025:

                Jonah Lowe also removed from the list.

                Game changer.

                Scored two tries in his return to rugby for Zingari last weekend. Impact!

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                • Landers92L Landers92

                  Good to see Fakatava removed from the injury list. Hopefully he gets some minutes in club footy this weekend and is back in the 23 for the Drua next week.

                  Jonah Lowe also removed from the list.

                  Injury update:
                  Oliver Haig (Foot / 1-2 weeks )
                  Jacob Ratumaitavuki-Kneepkens (Neck / 1-2 weeks)
                  Finn Hurley (Quad / TBC)
                  Nikora Broughton (Rib Injury/ 1-2 weeks)
                  Hugh Renton (Groin /1-2 weeks)

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                  @Landers92 said in Highlanders 2025:

                  Good to see Fakatava removed from the injury list. Hopefully he gets some minutes in club footy this weekend and is back in the 23 for the Drua next week.

                  Jonah Lowe also removed from the list.

                  Injury update:
                  Oliver Haig (Foot / 1-2 weeks )
                  Jacob Ratumaitavuki-Kneepkens (Neck / 1-2 weeks)
                  Finn Hurley (Quad / TBC)
                  Nikora Broughton (Rib Injury/ 1-2 weeks)
                  Hugh Renton (Groin /1-2 weeks)

                  I guess the reverse of this is that he is fit, but wasn’t deemed important enough to be flown to Australia… JRK listed as injured, but he is down to play club rugby this weekend, Haig may be the same (though suspect he is pushing it)

                  I’d wager Fakatava was fit last week too, I think there is more to this.

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                    Groota only flew out because DLB is injured. Jamie confirmed they’d planned on resting him for both weeks of the tour initially to improve his fitness

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                      @Landers92 said in Highlanders 2025:

                      Good to see Fakatava removed from the injury list. Hopefully he gets some minutes in club footy this weekend and is back in the 23 for the Drua next week.

                      Jonah Lowe also removed from the list.

                      Injury update:
                      Oliver Haig (Foot / 1-2 weeks )
                      Jacob Ratumaitavuki-Kneepkens (Neck / 1-2 weeks)
                      Finn Hurley (Quad / TBC)
                      Nikora Broughton (Rib Injury/ 1-2 weeks)
                      Hugh Renton (Groin /1-2 weeks)

                      I guess the reverse of this is that he is fit, but wasn’t deemed important enough to be flown to Australia… JRK listed as injured, but he is down to play club rugby this weekend, Haig may be the same (though suspect he is pushing it)

                      I’d wager Fakatava was fit last week too, I think there is more to this.

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                        @Landers92 said in Highlanders 2025:

                        Good to see Fakatava removed from the injury list. Hopefully he gets some minutes in club footy this weekend and is back in the 23 for the Drua next week.

                        Jonah Lowe also removed from the list.

                        Injury update:
                        Oliver Haig (Foot / 1-2 weeks )
                        Jacob Ratumaitavuki-Kneepkens (Neck / 1-2 weeks)
                        Finn Hurley (Quad / TBC)
                        Nikora Broughton (Rib Injury/ 1-2 weeks)
                        Hugh Renton (Groin /1-2 weeks)

                        I guess the reverse of this is that he is fit, but wasn’t deemed important enough to be flown to Australia… JRK listed as injured, but he is down to play club rugby this weekend, Haig may be the same (though suspect he is pushing it)

                        I’d wager Fakatava was fit last week too, I think there is more to this.

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                        @frugby said in Highlanders 2025:

                        @Landers92 said in Highlanders 2025:

                        Good to see Fakatava removed from the injury list. Hopefully he gets some minutes in club footy this weekend and is back in the 23 for the Drua next week.

                        Jonah Lowe also removed from the list.

                        Injury update:
                        Oliver Haig (Foot / 1-2 weeks )
                        Jacob Ratumaitavuki-Kneepkens (Neck / 1-2 weeks)
                        Finn Hurley (Quad / TBC)
                        Nikora Broughton (Rib Injury/ 1-2 weeks)
                        Hugh Renton (Groin /1-2 weeks)

                        I guess the reverse of this is that he is fit, but wasn’t deemed important enough to be flown to Australia… JRK listed as injured, but he is down to play club rugby this weekend, Haig may be the same (though suspect he is pushing it)

                        I’d wager Fakatava was fit last week too, I think there is more to this.

                        On Fakatava

                        I'd say there are three halfbacks locked in for next year and they are Hastie, Lennox and Pledger. Or even Lennox isn't quite over the line yet, and they getting him gametime. Either way, they don't see the massive value add of rushing Fakatava back in..

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                          Any player coming off a hamstring tear isn’t something you rush back. Hastie has been doing well and they obviously feel comfortable enough with Lennox.

                          Giving Fakatava that extra week is fine, if ready he will play 40mins of club footy and be back in the mix next week. Why fly him all the way over to Perth when he isn’t 100% ready for a super rugby level game…

                          I don’t think there’s more to it at all.

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                          • Landers92L Landers92

                            Any player coming off a hamstring tear isn’t something you rush back. Hastie has been doing well and they obviously feel comfortable enough with Lennox.

                            Giving Fakatava that extra week is fine, if ready he will play 40mins of club footy and be back in the mix next week. Why fly him all the way over to Perth when he isn’t 100% ready for a super rugby level game…

                            I don’t think there’s more to it at all.

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                            @Landers92 said in Highlanders 2025:

                            Any player coming off a hamstring tear isn’t something you rush back. Hastie has been doing well and they obviously feel comfortable enough with Lennox.

                            Giving Fakatava that extra week is fine, if ready he will play 40mins of club footy and be back in the mix next week. Why fly him all the way over to Perth when he isn’t 100% ready for a super rugby level game…

                            I don’t think there’s more to it at all.

                            My point is, I heard he was esentially fit the week of the Hurricanes game (trained all week), then was pulled last minute. He then trained all week the week of the Reds game (can be seen in the photos), he then didn't travel, and is now fit... that injury list relates to readiness for Super Rugby, because as I say, JRK (Last I heard) is down to play club rugby this week, and has been for a few weeks.

                            I think this is purely a case, where Lennox is being preferred...

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                              @Landers92 said in Highlanders 2025:

                              Any player coming off a hamstring tear isn’t something you rush back. Hastie has been doing well and they obviously feel comfortable enough with Lennox.

                              Giving Fakatava that extra week is fine, if ready he will play 40mins of club footy and be back in the mix next week. Why fly him all the way over to Perth when he isn’t 100% ready for a super rugby level game…

                              I don’t think there’s more to it at all.

                              My point is, I heard he was esentially fit the week of the Hurricanes game (trained all week), then was pulled last minute. He then trained all week the week of the Reds game (can be seen in the photos), he then didn't travel, and is now fit... that injury list relates to readiness for Super Rugby, because as I say, JRK (Last I heard) is down to play club rugby this week, and has been for a few weeks.

                              I think this is purely a case, where Lennox is being preferred...

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                              @frugby said in Highlanders 2025:

                              @Landers92 said in Highlanders 2025:
                              that injury list relates to readiness for Super Rugby, because as I say, JRK (Last I heard) is down to play club rugby this week, and has been for a few weeks.

                              I think this is purely a case, where Lennox is being preferred...

                              If that’s the case then all you need to do is refer to last weeks injury report the Highlanders put out…

                              ‘Folau Fakatava (Hamstring / 1-2 weeks)’

                              So if the report is super rugby readiness as you say, then he was going to be ready for super this week or next. Why fly someone and push the return when you also have to fly them 10+ hours? Its all pretty straight forward, no need to look deeper into something that really isn’t there just for the sake of it imo.

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                                @frugby said in Highlanders 2025:

                                @Landers92 said in Highlanders 2025:
                                that injury list relates to readiness for Super Rugby, because as I say, JRK (Last I heard) is down to play club rugby this week, and has been for a few weeks.

                                I think this is purely a case, where Lennox is being preferred...

                                If that’s the case then all you need to do is refer to last weeks injury report the Highlanders put out…

                                ‘Folau Fakatava (Hamstring / 1-2 weeks)’

                                So if the report is super rugby readiness as you say, then he was going to be ready for super this week or next. Why fly someone and push the return when you also have to fly them 10+ hours? Its all pretty straight forward, no need to look deeper into something that really isn’t there just for the sake of it imo.

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                                @Landers92 said in Highlanders 2025:

                                @frugby said in Highlanders 2025:

                                @Landers92 said in Highlanders 2025:
                                that injury list relates to readiness for Super Rugby, because as I say, JRK (Last I heard) is down to play club rugby this week, and has been for a few weeks.

                                I think this is purely a case, where Lennox is being preferred...

                                If that’s the case then all you need to do is refer to last weeks injury report the Highlanders put out…

                                ‘Folau Fakatava (Hamstring / 1-2 weeks)’

                                So if the report is super rugby readiness as you say, then he was going to be ready for super this week or next. Why fly someone and push the return when you also have to fly them 10+ hours? Its all pretty straight forward, no need to look deeper into something that really isn’t there just for the sake of it imo.

                                If they were happy with him they would have flown him over because this is effectively a must win game. The fact that he hasn't been flown over to me, tells you how they are seeing things at the moment... and his last game? One of his best for the Highlanders against the Blues. If he was fit, and they were happy with him, why wouldn't you fly him over? I like Lennox, but he has 15 minutes of Super Rugby experience. On ability, I'd be surprised if they don't think Fakatava was better.

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                                  @Landers92 said in Highlanders 2025:

                                  @frugby said in Highlanders 2025:

                                  @Landers92 said in Highlanders 2025:
                                  that injury list relates to readiness for Super Rugby, because as I say, JRK (Last I heard) is down to play club rugby this week, and has been for a few weeks.

                                  I think this is purely a case, where Lennox is being preferred...

                                  If that’s the case then all you need to do is refer to last weeks injury report the Highlanders put out…

                                  ‘Folau Fakatava (Hamstring / 1-2 weeks)’

                                  So if the report is super rugby readiness as you say, then he was going to be ready for super this week or next. Why fly someone and push the return when you also have to fly them 10+ hours? Its all pretty straight forward, no need to look deeper into something that really isn’t there just for the sake of it imo.

                                  If they were happy with him they would have flown him over because this is effectively a must win game. The fact that he hasn't been flown over to me, tells you how they are seeing things at the moment... and his last game? One of his best for the Highlanders against the Blues. If he was fit, and they were happy with him, why wouldn't you fly him over? I like Lennox, but he has 15 minutes of Super Rugby experience. On ability, I'd be surprised if they don't think Fakatava was better.

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                                  @frugby said in Highlanders 2025:

                                  @Landers92 said in Highlanders 2025:

                                  @frugby said in Highlanders 2025:

                                  @Landers92 said in Highlanders 2025:

                                  If they were happy with him they would have flown him over because this is effectively a must win game. The fact that he hasn't been flown over to me, tells you how they are seeing things at the moment... and his last game? One of his best for the Highlanders against the Blues. If he was fit, and they were happy with him, why wouldn't you fly him over? I like Lennox, but he has 15 minutes of Super Rugby experience. On ability, I'd be surprised if they don't think Fakatava was better.

                                  Well they obviously aren’t happy with how the fitness is post hamstring injury. It isn’t rocket science? Because as you stated - that injury list relates to readiness for Super Rugby. Last week he was 1-2 weeks away. I would expect to see him next week, if not, then it could be a cause for concern.

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                                    A bizarre update on this one… Fakatava retweaked his hamstring at the start of last week, but was passed fit yesterday to get a run in club rugby this weekend, but wasn’t considered fit for the Highlanders. I’m not sure why they have not listed him as injured… the interesting anecdote, is that Dunedin have the bye, but they want him to play for another club like Dunshea did last year.

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                                      Not the news we wanted to hear. Hopefully he’s back fully fit for Otago in the NPC.

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                                        god fucking damn it....mother fucking fluffybunny fuck

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                                          10-12 weeks… he’s done a bloody good job on it! By my maths he is back for the Grand Final…

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