Black Caps in India
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Ronchi with his 59 test average needs to counter punch his way to a ton here.
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Missed the end of the Indian innings, but the net result of that session is totally shit for us.
India get 77 runs and two opening batsmen.
We get 21 runs and three tailenders.
Latham and Guppy both pretty much gifting their wickets - you'd say Guppy's was a freak dismissal, except that he'd already been clipped on the elbow doing exactly the same thing.
I suppose I would have expected a Pavlovian reflex to being hit on the funnybone by a cricket ball propelled by a test class seam bowler - that you would have been reasonably keen to get your fucking elbow out of the way the next time - but I am not a highly tuned athlete totally grooved in my technique!
Latham - well, if you were allowed to review, I probably would have. Latham was looking to leg glance but too late. Probably clipping leg stump, but maybe not - there was plenty of angle.
I've decided the TV commentators are highly unreliable in their responses to umpiring decisions - they'll agree with the umpire unless he's blatantly wrong. Late last night they blithely noted that Jadeja got an inside edge on a plumb lbw. I'm pretty sure the reason the umpire didn't give it was he thought it possibly pitched outside leg (again I'm pretty sure it didn't). We got no forensic examination of the inside edge, but I was certainly far from convinced that there was one. The cricinfo commentator agrees with my conclusion and made no mention of an inside edge.
85.4
Henry to Jadeja, no run, gone, is it? Looked very close, perfect follow-up to all those wide ones. This pitched on leg stump, back of a length, straightened into Jadeja, and kept a little low as he jumped in his crease and played across it. Umpire may have thought it pitched outside leg@Chris-B. said in Black Caps in India:
Missed the end of the Indian innings, but the net result of that session is totally shit for us.
India get 77 runs and two opening batsmen.
We get 21 runs and three tailenders.
Latham and Guppy both pretty much gifting their wickets - you'd say Guppy's was a freak dismissal, except that he'd already been clipped on the elbow doing exactly the same thing.
I suppose I would have expected a Pavlovian reflex to being hit on the funnybone by a cricket ball propelled by a test class seam bowler - that you would have been reasonably keen to get your fucking elbow out of the way the next time - but I am not a highly tuned athlete totally grooved in my technique!
Latham - well, if you were allowed to review, I probably would have. Latham was looking to leg glance but too late. Probably clipping leg stump, but maybe not - there was plenty of angle.
I've decided the TV commentators are highly unreliable in their responses to umpiring decisions - they'll agree with the umpire unless he's blatantly wrong. Late last night they blithely noted that Jadeja got an inside edge on a plumb lbw. I'm pretty sure the reason the umpire didn't give it was he thought it possibly pitched outside leg (I'm pretty sure it didn't). We got no forensic examination of the inside edge, but I was certainly far from convinced that there was one. The cricinfo commentator agrees with my conclusion and made no mention of an inside edge.
85.4
Henry to Jadeja, no run, gone, is it? Looked very close, perfect follow-up to all those wide ones. This pitched on leg stump, back of a length, straightened into Jadeja, and kept a little low as he jumped in his crease and played across it. Umpire may have thought it pitched outside legThe comms are infuriating with the LBWs. "I've checked the hawke-eye built into my brain and can confirm that would have been umpires call even if he could review".
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Outrageous shot from Ronchi. Effortless. Need to watch that variable bounce though...
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Does Raval have to have incriminating evidence about Gavin Larsen before someone will drop Guptil from the test team? Nicholls is also getting into the pushing-his-luck category...
@Donsteppa said in Black Caps in India:
Does Raval have to have incriminating evidence about Gavin Larsen before someone will drop Guptil from the test team? Nicholls is also getting into the pushing-his-luck category...
The truth about Raval is that his record isn't stellar. It's good and he deserves to be in the squad but his record isn't so good that it can't be ignored. I think Raval has more than earned a spot ahead of Guptill. Most of the people I have read about Raval say that he is a good player but he hasn't shown signs of brilliance. His FC record gets better every year but a lot of players score runs in the Plunket Shield who don't deserve a call up.
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All good I checked my hawke-eye and Ronchi's LBW would have been umpires call if reviewed so no controversy.
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Jadeja's incessant appealing pays off and he gets Ronchi with one that is missing leg. Lame.
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@Donsteppa said in Black Caps in India:
Does Raval have to have incriminating evidence about Gavin Larsen before someone will drop Guptil from the test team? Nicholls is also getting into the pushing-his-luck category...
The truth about Raval is that his record isn't stellar. It's good and he deserves to be in the squad but his record isn't so good that it can't be ignored. I think Raval has more than earned a spot ahead of Guptill. Most of the people I have read about Raval say that he is a good player but he hasn't shown signs of brilliance. His FC record gets better every year but a lot of players score runs in the Plunket Shield who don't deserve a call up.
@hydro11 said in Black Caps in India:
@Donsteppa said in Black Caps in India:
Does Raval have to have incriminating evidence about Gavin Larsen before someone will drop Guptil from the test team? Nicholls is also getting into the pushing-his-luck category...
The truth about Raval is that his record isn't stellar. It's good and he deserves to be in the squad but his record isn't so good that it can't be ignored. I think Raval has more than earned a spot ahead of Guptill. Most of the people I have read about Raval say that he is a good player but he hasn't shown signs of brilliance. His FC record gets better every year but a lot of players score runs in the Plunket Shield who don't deserve a call up.
You read anything on Popli and Nicholls?
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85/4. Shit on a stick (feel better soon, Kane. No seriously.)
Ross, if ever there was a time you needed to stand up and shake off the shackles, this is it. Opening three rubbish. Ronchi unlucky, but again another handy innings. He's played well in India (and yes this hat tastes delicious.)
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I wouldn't expect that batting line up to make 200 in either innings, actually I wouldn't expect a cumulative 200 against almost anyone, but especially in Asia. We're putting out a weak on here.
@Rapido If you add everyone's average together - it comes to about 320 (plus extras). Admittedly, there's a few like Ronchi and Henry who might have inflated averages relative to talent, but even if you severely knock 70 runs off - it still seems reasonable to expect 250+ on average.
But we're definitely fragile without little Kane.
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@Rapido If you add everyone's average together - it comes to about 320 (plus extras). Admittedly, there's a few like Ronchi and Henry who might have inflated averages relative to talent, but even if you severely knock 70 runs off - it still seems reasonable to expect 250+ on average.
But we're definitely fragile without little Kane.
@Chris-B. said in Black Caps in India:
@Rapido If you add everyone's average together - it comes to about 320 (plus extras). Admittedly, there's a few like Ronchi and Henry who might have inflated averages relative to talent, but even if you severely knock 70 runs off - it still seems reasonable to expect 250+ on average.
But we're definitely fragile without little Kane.
India are a good team, especially at home. I don't think most of our batsmen would average above 30 in these conditions over an extended period.
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