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2025 British & Irish Lions tour to Australia

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    Based on super form, Wobblies could be handy enough

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      Based on super form, Wobblies could be handy enough

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      @Mattasaurus said in 2025 British & Irish Lions tour to Australia:

      Based on super form, Wobblies could be handy enough

      The reduction to four teams has created much stronger squads, so the competition within those squads raises the level.

      There's a better chance this year that the Wallabies could win the Bledisloe than they've had in a long, long time.

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        Jonny "the whining fluffybunny" Sexton has joined the British and Irish Lions coaching team:

        https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/articles/cr5dqy32dl0o

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          Jonny "the whining fluffybunny" Sexton has joined the British and Irish Lions coaching team:

          https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/articles/cr5dqy32dl0o

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          @sparky said in 2025 British & Irish Lions tour to Australia:

          Jonny "the whining fluffybunny" Sexton has joined the British and Irish Lions coaching team:

          https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/articles/cr5dqy32dl0o

          Best lion since Alastair Campbell

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            Jonny "the whining fluffybunny" Sexton has joined the British and Irish Lions coaching team:

            https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/articles/cr5dqy32dl0o

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            @sparky

            It’s now being touted around that Sexton’s appointment means Russell is less likely to be picked to start or maybe even tour. I know he doesn’t rate him but he’s only a junior coach. It is quite possible that Russell doesn't get selected as it is a position with a bit of depth. We have the two Smiths, Prendergast,, Kinghorn as back up and of course that Welsh guy (sorry, poor joke). If he doesn’t go though it will be due to him not fitting the game plan rather than Sexton having a dig IMO.

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              @sparky

              It’s now being touted around that Sexton’s appointment means Russell is less likely to be picked to start or maybe even tour. I know he doesn’t rate him but he’s only a junior coach. It is quite possible that Russell doesn't get selected as it is a position with a bit of depth. We have the two Smiths, Prendergast,, Kinghorn as back up and of course that Welsh guy (sorry, poor joke). If he doesn’t go though it will be due to him not fitting the game plan rather than Sexton having a dig IMO.

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              @Catogrande My guess is that Andy Farrell will pick the squad. Jonny Sexton's role will be mostly to do with goalkicking and a bit of game management. I agree. I don't think this has any impact on whether Finn Russell goes to Australia or not.

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                @sparky

                It’s now being touted around that Sexton’s appointment means Russell is less likely to be picked to start or maybe even tour. I know he doesn’t rate him but he’s only a junior coach. It is quite possible that Russell doesn't get selected as it is a position with a bit of depth. We have the two Smiths, Prendergast,, Kinghorn as back up and of course that Welsh guy (sorry, poor joke). If he doesn’t go though it will be due to him not fitting the game plan rather than Sexton having a dig IMO.

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                @Catogrande said in 2025 British & Irish Lions tour to Australia:

                @sparky

                It’s now being touted around that Sexton’s appointment means Russell is less likely to be picked to start or maybe even tour. I know he doesn’t rate him but he’s only a junior coach. It is quite possible that Russell doesn't get selected as it is a position with a bit of depth. We have the two Smiths, Prendergast,, Kinghorn as back up and of course that Welsh guy (sorry, poor joke). If he doesn’t go though it will be due to him not fitting the game plan rather than Sexton having a dig IMO.

                From watching the six nations, the Aussies will have their fingers crossed that he is starting. Was absolutely abysmal

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                  @Catogrande said in 2025 British & Irish Lions tour to Australia:

                  @sparky

                  It’s now being touted around that Sexton’s appointment means Russell is less likely to be picked to start or maybe even tour. I know he doesn’t rate him but he’s only a junior coach. It is quite possible that Russell doesn't get selected as it is a position with a bit of depth. We have the two Smiths, Prendergast,, Kinghorn as back up and of course that Welsh guy (sorry, poor joke). If he doesn’t go though it will be due to him not fitting the game plan rather than Sexton having a dig IMO.

                  From watching the six nations, the Aussies will have their fingers crossed that he is starting. Was absolutely abysmal

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                  @KiwiInLondon said in 2025 British & Irish Lions tour to Australia:

                  @Catogrande said in 2025 British & Irish Lions tour to Australia:

                  @sparky

                  It’s now being touted around that Sexton’s appointment means Russell is less likely to be picked to start or maybe even tour. I know he doesn’t rate him but he’s only a junior coach. It is quite possible that Russell doesn't get selected as it is a position with a bit of depth. We have the two Smiths, Prendergast,, Kinghorn as back up and of course that Welsh guy (sorry, poor joke). If he doesn’t go though it will be due to him not fitting the game plan rather than Sexton having a dig IMO.

                  From watching the six nations, the Aussies will have their fingers crossed that he is starting. Was absolutely abysmal

                  Mate, he wasn’t abysmal. He was hot and cold for sure, but that’s his game. See also Carlos Spencer. Exceptionally, naturally talented, but run a game to a game plan? Not so much. It depends upon what the coaches want. A good example would be the 1997 Lions. McGeechan picked Townsend at 10 specifically because he felt that an unpredictable playmaker was needed to unlock the Bok system. However, shit goal kicker, which would also be necessary, so Jenkins at 15. And he wasn’t a full back’s arse. But we won the series.

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                    @KiwiInLondon said in 2025 British & Irish Lions tour to Australia:

                    @Catogrande said in 2025 British & Irish Lions tour to Australia:

                    @sparky

                    It’s now being touted around that Sexton’s appointment means Russell is less likely to be picked to start or maybe even tour. I know he doesn’t rate him but he’s only a junior coach. It is quite possible that Russell doesn't get selected as it is a position with a bit of depth. We have the two Smiths, Prendergast,, Kinghorn as back up and of course that Welsh guy (sorry, poor joke). If he doesn’t go though it will be due to him not fitting the game plan rather than Sexton having a dig IMO.

                    From watching the six nations, the Aussies will have their fingers crossed that he is starting. Was absolutely abysmal

                    Mate, he wasn’t abysmal. He was hot and cold for sure, but that’s his game. See also Carlos Spencer. Exceptionally, naturally talented, but run a game to a game plan? Not so much. It depends upon what the coaches want. A good example would be the 1997 Lions. McGeechan picked Townsend at 10 specifically because he felt that an unpredictable playmaker was needed to unlock the Bok system. However, shit goal kicker, which would also be necessary, so Jenkins at 15. And he wasn’t a full back’s arse. But we won the series.

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                    @Catogrande said in 2025 British & Irish Lions tour to Australia:

                    @KiwiInLondon said in 2025 British & Irish Lions tour to Australia:

                    @Catogrande said in 2025 British & Irish Lions tour to Australia:

                    @sparky

                    It’s now being touted around that Sexton’s appointment means Russell is less likely to be picked to start or maybe even tour. I know he doesn’t rate him but he’s only a junior coach. It is quite possible that Russell doesn't get selected as it is a position with a bit of depth. We have the two Smiths, Prendergast,, Kinghorn as back up and of course that Welsh guy (sorry, poor joke). If he doesn’t go though it will be due to him not fitting the game plan rather than Sexton having a dig IMO.

                    From watching the six nations, the Aussies will have their fingers crossed that he is starting. Was absolutely abysmal

                    Mate, he wasn’t abysmal. He was hot and cold for sure, but that’s his game. See also Carlos Spencer. Exceptionally, naturally talented, but run a game to a game plan? Not so much. It depends upon what the coaches want. A good example would be the 1997 Lions. McGeechan picked Townsend at 10 specifically because he felt that an unpredictable playmaker was needed to unlock the Bok system. However, shit goal kicker, which would also be necessary, so Jenkins at 15. And he wasn’t a full back’s arse. But we won the series.

                    Yeah great analogy. When you think of Russell you think of Spencer/Townsend but without the rig. Capable of amazing stuff but also some howlers.

                    I think the cool word to describe them is ‘mercurial’

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                      @KiwiInLondon said in 2025 British & Irish Lions tour to Australia:

                      @Catogrande said in 2025 British & Irish Lions tour to Australia:

                      @sparky

                      It’s now being touted around that Sexton’s appointment means Russell is less likely to be picked to start or maybe even tour. I know he doesn’t rate him but he’s only a junior coach. It is quite possible that Russell doesn't get selected as it is a position with a bit of depth. We have the two Smiths, Prendergast,, Kinghorn as back up and of course that Welsh guy (sorry, poor joke). If he doesn’t go though it will be due to him not fitting the game plan rather than Sexton having a dig IMO.

                      From watching the six nations, the Aussies will have their fingers crossed that he is starting. Was absolutely abysmal

                      Mate, he wasn’t abysmal. He was hot and cold for sure, but that’s his game. See also Carlos Spencer. Exceptionally, naturally talented, but run a game to a game plan? Not so much. It depends upon what the coaches want. A good example would be the 1997 Lions. McGeechan picked Townsend at 10 specifically because he felt that an unpredictable playmaker was needed to unlock the Bok system. However, shit goal kicker, which would also be necessary, so Jenkins at 15. And he wasn’t a full back’s arse. But we won the series.

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                      @Catogrande said in 2025 British & Irish Lions tour to Australia:

                      @KiwiInLondon said in 2025 British & Irish Lions tour to Australia:

                      @Catogrande said in 2025 British & Irish Lions tour to Australia:

                      @sparky

                      It’s now being touted around that Sexton’s appointment means Russell is less likely to be picked to start or maybe even tour. I know he doesn’t rate him but he’s only a junior coach. It is quite possible that Russell doesn't get selected as it is a position with a bit of depth. We have the two Smiths, Prendergast,, Kinghorn as back up and of course that Welsh guy (sorry, poor joke). If he doesn’t go though it will be due to him not fitting the game plan rather than Sexton having a dig IMO.

                      From watching the six nations, the Aussies will have their fingers crossed that he is starting. Was absolutely abysmal

                      Mate, he wasn’t abysmal. He was hot and cold for sure, but that’s his game. See also Carlos Spencer. Exceptionally, naturally talented, but run a game to a game plan? Not so much. It depends upon what the coaches want. A good example would be the 1997 Lions. McGeechan picked Townsend at 10 specifically because he felt that an unpredictable playmaker was needed to unlock the Bok system. However, shit goal kicker, which would also be necessary, so Jenkins at 15. And he wasn’t a full back’s arse. But we won the series.

                      He was absolutely shocking in defense and attack. Couldn’t coordinate a thing in the backline

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                        @Catogrande said in 2025 British & Irish Lions tour to Australia:

                        @KiwiInLondon said in 2025 British & Irish Lions tour to Australia:

                        @Catogrande said in 2025 British & Irish Lions tour to Australia:

                        @sparky

                        It’s now being touted around that Sexton’s appointment means Russell is less likely to be picked to start or maybe even tour. I know he doesn’t rate him but he’s only a junior coach. It is quite possible that Russell doesn't get selected as it is a position with a bit of depth. We have the two Smiths, Prendergast,, Kinghorn as back up and of course that Welsh guy (sorry, poor joke). If he doesn’t go though it will be due to him not fitting the game plan rather than Sexton having a dig IMO.

                        From watching the six nations, the Aussies will have their fingers crossed that he is starting. Was absolutely abysmal

                        Mate, he wasn’t abysmal. He was hot and cold for sure, but that’s his game. See also Carlos Spencer. Exceptionally, naturally talented, but run a game to a game plan? Not so much. It depends upon what the coaches want. A good example would be the 1997 Lions. McGeechan picked Townsend at 10 specifically because he felt that an unpredictable playmaker was needed to unlock the Bok system. However, shit goal kicker, which would also be necessary, so Jenkins at 15. And he wasn’t a full back’s arse. But we won the series.

                        He was absolutely shocking in defense and attack. Couldn’t coordinate a thing in the backline

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                        Crikey mate, you’re a harsh judge.

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                          Crikey mate, you’re a harsh judge.

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                          @Catogrande said in 2025 British & Irish Lions tour to Australia:

                          @KiwiInLondon

                          Crikey mate, you’re a harsh judge.

                          @Catogrande said in 2025 British & Irish Lions tour to Australia:

                          @KiwiInLondon

                          Crikey mate, you’re a harsh judge.

                          Well look what happens when the pressure is on him? RWC game against SA was a classic example. Ditto against Ireland and England in the six nations

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                            @Catogrande My guess is that Andy Farrell will pick the squad. Jonny Sexton's role will be mostly to do with goalkicking and a bit of game management. I agree. I don't think this has any impact on whether Finn Russell goes to Australia or not.

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                            @sparky said in 2025 British & Irish Lions tour to Australia:

                            @Catogrande My guess is that Andy Farrell will pick the squad. Jonny Sexton's role will be mostly to do with goalkicking and a bit of game management.

                            And sportsmanship.

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                              @Catogrande said in 2025 British & Irish Lions tour to Australia:

                              @KiwiInLondon

                              Crikey mate, you’re a harsh judge.

                              @Catogrande said in 2025 British & Irish Lions tour to Australia:

                              @KiwiInLondon

                              Crikey mate, you’re a harsh judge.

                              Well look what happens when the pressure is on him? RWC game against SA was a classic example. Ditto against Ireland and England in the six nations

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                              @KiwiInLondon said in 2025 British & Irish Lions tour to Australia:

                              @Catogrande said in 2025 British & Irish Lions tour to Australia:

                              @KiwiInLondon

                              Crikey mate, you’re a harsh judge.

                              @Catogrande said in 2025 British & Irish Lions tour to Australia:

                              @KiwiInLondon

                              Crikey mate, you’re a harsh judge.

                              Well look what happens when the pressure is on him? RWC game against SA was a classic example. Ditto against Ireland and England in the six nations

                              I think that's just as much of a case of the rest of the Scots team not being as good as their SA and Irish opposites on the whole.

                              Not England, they've got the wood on them overall.

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                                @KiwiInLondon said in 2025 British & Irish Lions tour to Australia:

                                @Catogrande said in 2025 British & Irish Lions tour to Australia:

                                @KiwiInLondon

                                Crikey mate, you’re a harsh judge.

                                @Catogrande said in 2025 British & Irish Lions tour to Australia:

                                @KiwiInLondon

                                Crikey mate, you’re a harsh judge.

                                Well look what happens when the pressure is on him? RWC game against SA was a classic example. Ditto against Ireland and England in the six nations

                                I think that's just as much of a case of the rest of the Scots team not being as good as their SA and Irish opposites on the whole.

                                Not England, they've got the wood on them overall.

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                                @MN5 said in 2025 British & Irish Lions tour to Australia:

                                @KiwiInLondon said in 2025 British & Irish Lions tour to Australia:

                                @Catogrande said in 2025 British & Irish Lions tour to Australia:

                                @KiwiInLondon

                                Crikey mate, you’re a harsh judge.

                                @Catogrande said in 2025 British & Irish Lions tour to Australia:

                                @KiwiInLondon

                                Crikey mate, you’re a harsh judge.

                                Well look what happens when the pressure is on him? RWC game against SA was a classic example. Ditto against Ireland and England in the six nations

                                I think that's just as much of a case of the rest of the Scots team not being as good as their SA and Irish opposites on the whole.

                                Not England, they've got the wood on them overall.

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                                  The refs for the tests are Ben O'Keeffe, Andrea Piardi and Nika Amashukeli.

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                                    @sparky said in 2025 British & Irish Lions tour to Australia:

                                    @Catogrande My guess is that Andy Farrell will pick the squad. Jonny Sexton's role will be mostly to do with goalkicking and a bit of game management.

                                    And sportsmanship.

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                                    @nostrildamus said in 2025 British & Irish Lions tour to Australia:

                                    @sparky said in 2025 British & Irish Lions tour to Australia:

                                    @Catogrande My guess is that Andy Farrell will pick the squad. Jonny Sexton's role will be mostly to do with goalkicking and a bit of game management.

                                    And sportsmanship.

                                    The Alistair Campbell role

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                                      Doris could be doubtful due to the shoulder injury he suffered against Northampton.

                                      "Caelan Doris will have a procedure this week on a shoulder injury and a further assessment will be carried out afterwards," a Leinster statement said.

                                      Was he really a good chance to be the captain? I guess it depends on how impartial Farrell is with his selections.

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                                        Doris could be doubtful due to the shoulder injury he suffered against Northampton.

                                        "Caelan Doris will have a procedure this week on a shoulder injury and a further assessment will be carried out afterwards," a Leinster statement said.

                                        Was he really a good chance to be the captain? I guess it depends on how impartial Farrell is with his selections.

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                                        @Bovidae said in 2025 British & Irish Lions tour to Australia:

                                        Doris could be doubtful due to the shoulder injury he suffered against Northampton.

                                        "Caelan Doris will have a procedure this week on a shoulder injury and a further assessment will be carried out afterwards," a Leinster statement said.

                                        Was he really a good chance to be the captain? I guess it depends on how impartial Farrell is with his selections.

                                        Two horse race between him and Itoje in most pundits eyes

                                        Both 80 min players with their places in the starting XV locked in

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                                          After the weekend, Pollock, Finn Smith, Mitchell, Freeman on the plane

                                          Russell surplus to requirements for me

                                          Both Smiths do everything Russell does but better

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