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  • BovidaeB Bovidae

    Eight of the nine candidates were ratified. Rowena Davenport was not.

    https://www.nzrugby.co.nz/news-and-events/latest-news/update-on-new-zealand-rugby-board-ratification-process

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    @Bovidae said in NZR review:

    Eight of the nine candidates were ratified. Rowena Davenport was not.

    https://www.nzrugby.co.nz/news-and-events/latest-news/update-on-new-zealand-rugby-board-ratification-process

    Seems a bit random - any inside oil on why she wasn't ratified?

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      @Bovidae said in NZR review:

      Eight of the nine candidates were ratified. Rowena Davenport was not.

      https://www.nzrugby.co.nz/news-and-events/latest-news/update-on-new-zealand-rugby-board-ratification-process

      Seems a bit random - any inside oil on why she wasn't ratified?

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      @Godder The good money would be on some of the provincial unions being pissed off that an incumbent stayed on whilst those two fellas didn't get an interview, but that would then seem bizarre that the other incumbent stayed on.

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        Good news tho, here

        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360516795/former-all-blacks-captain-david-kirk-poised-be-next-chair-nz-rugby

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        @Machpants https://www.planetrugby.com/news/all-blacks-two-world-cup-winners-added-to-new-zealand-rugby-board

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          @Godder The good money would be on some of the provincial unions being pissed off that an incumbent stayed on whilst those two fellas didn't get an interview, but that would then seem bizarre that the other incumbent stayed on.

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          @frugby said in NZR review:

          @Godder The good money would be on some of the provincial unions being pissed off that an incumbent stayed on whilst those two fellas didn't get an interview, but that would then seem bizarre that the other incumbent stayed on.

          The word is that the PUs weren't happy with Davenport and her stance when the different proposals were discussed earlier in the year.

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            My only thought on the board is a slightly uneasy feeling about Kirk being chairman. He was chairman of NZPA that threatened split if the board didn't get made uo how the Pilkington report suggested, as soon as they het it he stands as chairman?
            A suspicious man could think he was maybe angling for the job. Not saying he was but just not quite right for mine.

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              My only thought on the board is a slightly uneasy feeling about Kirk being chairman. He was chairman of NZPA that threatened split if the board didn't get made uo how the Pilkington report suggested, as soon as they het it he stands as chairman?
              A suspicious man could think he was maybe angling for the job. Not saying he was but just not quite right for mine.

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              @Dan54 said in NZR review:

              My only thought on the board is a slightly uneasy feeling about Kirk being chairman. He was chairman of NZPA that threatened split if the board didn't get made uo how the Pilkington report suggested, as soon as they het it he stands as chairman?
              A suspicious man could think he was maybe angling for the job. Not saying he was but just not quite right for mine.

              Having Kirk in charge is the best news, they rolled back the changes to more like the NZRPA wanted, and now he will lead with some actual nous

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              • M Machpants

                @Dan54 said in NZR review:

                My only thought on the board is a slightly uneasy feeling about Kirk being chairman. He was chairman of NZPA that threatened split if the board didn't get made uo how the Pilkington report suggested, as soon as they het it he stands as chairman?
                A suspicious man could think he was maybe angling for the job. Not saying he was but just not quite right for mine.

                Having Kirk in charge is the best news, they rolled back the changes to more like the NZRPA wanted, and now he will lead with some actual nous

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                @Machpants said in NZR review:

                @Dan54 said in NZR review:

                My only thought on the board is a slightly uneasy feeling about Kirk being chairman. He was chairman of NZPA that threatened split if the board didn't get made uo how the Pilkington report suggested, as soon as they het it he stands as chairman?
                A suspicious man could think he was maybe angling for the job. Not saying he was but just not quite right for mine.

                Having Kirk in charge is the best news, they rolled back the changes to more like the NZRPA wanted, and now he will lead with some actual nous

                Yep not real upset mate, just uneasy the way it played out. I not sure it best look. Also perhaps I just may feel better if the chairman lived in NZ so as to have finger on pulse, but to be honest I suppose he is not going to worry about grassroots?

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                  New Zealand Rugby’s (NZR) voting members have ratified Marise James to take up the final position on the NZR Board.

                  The NZR Appointments and Remuneration Committee (ARP) put James forward for ratification at the beginning of March. Ratification required majority approval from NZR’s voting members, consisting of the 26 Provincial Unions and the NZ Māori Rugby Board. The ratification postal ballot closed at 5pm on Wednesday 12 March.

                  https://www.nzrugby.co.nz/news-and-events/latest-news/final-member-of-new-zealand-rugby-board-ratified

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                    The AGM is today. Mark Robinson and David Kirk will front the media this afternoon.

                    As reported previously, NZR made another loss in 2024.

                    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360681816/new-zealand-rugby-reports-195m-loss-2024-chief-executive-mark-robinson-says-model-unsustainable

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                    • BovidaeB Bovidae

                      The AGM is today. Mark Robinson and David Kirk will front the media this afternoon.

                      As reported previously, NZR made another loss in 2024.

                      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360681816/new-zealand-rugby-reports-195m-loss-2024-chief-executive-mark-robinson-says-model-unsustainable

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                      @Bovidae said in NZR review:

                      As reported previously, NZR made another loss in 2024.

                      Revenue up $17M, loss up from $8Mish to $19M.

                      Something in there needs some serious attention. And silverlake may pick up 7.7% of revenue in a year or two, indefinitely.

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                        As the article says NZR spent more on Teams in Black and Admin, plus other expenses/losses. Totals in $000

                        Screenshot 2025-05-08 at 14.08.59.png

                        NZR-Performance-Report-2024.pdf

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                        • BovidaeB Bovidae

                          As the article says NZR spent more on Teams in Black and Admin, plus other expenses/losses. Totals in $000

                          Screenshot 2025-05-08 at 14.08.59.png

                          NZR-Performance-Report-2024.pdf

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                          @Bovidae so $6m more on Admin and only $2m more on development... 😉

                          Have to assume there is some crossover between Admin and Development anyway....

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                          • BovidaeB Bovidae

                            As the article says NZR spent more on Teams in Black and Admin, plus other expenses/losses. Totals in $000

                            Screenshot 2025-05-08 at 14.08.59.png

                            NZR-Performance-Report-2024.pdf

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                            @Bovidae said in NZR review:

                            As the article says NZR spent more on Teams in Black and Admin, plus other expenses/losses. Totals in $000

                            Screenshot 2025-05-08 at 14.08.59.png

                            NZR-Performance-Report-2024.pdf

                            Why do they have an interest expense. I thought they had funds in reserve?

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                            • K kev

                              @Bovidae said in NZR review:

                              As the article says NZR spent more on Teams in Black and Admin, plus other expenses/losses. Totals in $000

                              Screenshot 2025-05-08 at 14.08.59.png

                              NZR-Performance-Report-2024.pdf

                              Why do they have an interest expense. I thought they had funds in reserve?

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                              @kev said in NZR review:

                              Why do they have an interest expense. I thought they had funds in reserve?

                              Majority of that is Silverlake isn't it?

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                                @kev said in NZR review:

                                Why do they have an interest expense. I thought they had funds in reserve?

                                Majority of that is Silverlake isn't it?

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                                @Toddy said in NZR review:

                                @kev said in NZR review:

                                Why do they have an interest expense. I thought they had funds in reserve?

                                Majority of that is Silverlake isn't it?

                                They had funds in reserve prior to Silverlake deal I thought. If anything the deal should have added to that pot.

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                                  They have to make payments (4%??) to Silver Lake and currently those payments are interest payments due to the debt type of funding that was setup with Silver Lake. It would change (I think) if Silver Lake exercises it's option to take an equity position.

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                                    They have to make payments (4%??) to Silver Lake and currently those payments are interest payments due to the debt type of funding that was setup with Silver Lake. It would change (I think) if Silver Lake exercises it's option to take an equity position.

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                                    @Toddy said in NZR review:

                                    They have to make payments (4%??) to Silver Lake and currently those payments are interest payments due to the debt type of funding that was setup with Silver Lake. It would change (I think) if Silver Lake exercises its option to take an equity position.

                                    Ok makes sense. But the Silver Lake deal is a dog. Didn’t realise they had that option. How long for? So NZRFU have to repay debt if option not exercised. What exactly have they done for this option so far? Amateur hour..

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                                      I think if they don't exercise the deal then NZR would just keep paying the interest expense as it's a perpetual debt instrument. There's no paying it back. If the option is exercised then Silver Lake would take the slice of revenue and the $10.5m interest would stop and the $21m ish payments based on commercial revenue will start.

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                                        I'm suitably impressed by the financial acumen of NZR to develop that sort of deal.

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                                          So every year we pay silverlake ether $10.5M (if we make a loss) or $21M+ if we make a profit??

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