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    If Jacomb does head to the Highlanders the ideal "new" replacement would be Tepaea Cook-Savage. He can play 10/15 and has also played at 2nd 5 and on the wing. He would be the ideal squad utility back.

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      If Jacomb does head to the Highlanders the ideal "new" replacement would be Tepaea Cook-Savage. He can play 10/15 and has also played at 2nd 5 and on the wing. He would be the ideal squad utility back.

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      @Bovidae said in Chiefs 2025:

      If Jacomb does head to the Highlanders the ideal "new" replacement would be Tepaea Cook-Savage. He can play 10/15 and has also played at 2nd 5 and on the wing. He would be the ideal squad utility back.

      for that to happen he would need to have this season at 1st 5 for waikato

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        @Bovidae said in Chiefs 2025:

        If Jacomb does head to the Highlanders the ideal "new" replacement would be Tepaea Cook-Savage. He can play 10/15 and has also played at 2nd 5 and on the wing. He would be the ideal squad utility back.

        for that to happen he would need to have this season at 1st 5 for waikato

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        @ploughboy said in Chiefs 2025:

        @Bovidae said in Chiefs 2025:

        If Jacomb does head to the Highlanders the ideal "new" replacement would be Tepaea Cook-Savage. He can play 10/15 and has also played at 2nd 5 and on the wing. He would be the ideal squad utility back.

        for that to happen he would need to have this season at 1st 5 for waikato

        Agree, but it might just happen with the injury to Kemara and the unavailability of DMac.

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        • gt12G gt12

          I'm getting angry just thinking about Mathis at the Saders. That better not fucking happen when we've still got Boshier running around and needing to move Jacobson to 7 because we don't have a specialist.

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          @gt12 said in Chiefs 2025:

          I'm getting angry just thinking about Mathis at the Saders. That better not fucking happen when we've still got Boshier running around and needing to move Jacobson to 7 because we don't have a specialist.

          Maybe you have seen more of him than me, but do we have any idea how good Mathis is at 7 beyond age grade stuff? My memory tells me he played some NPC on the wing and that he is not exactly a big guy.

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            @gt12 said in Chiefs 2025:

            I'm getting angry just thinking about Mathis at the Saders. That better not fucking happen when we've still got Boshier running around and needing to move Jacobson to 7 because we don't have a specialist.

            Maybe you have seen more of him than me, but do we have any idea how good Mathis is at 7 beyond age grade stuff? My memory tells me he played some NPC on the wing and that he is not exactly a big guy.

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            @Crazy-Horse he was great at NPC level on the wing and at 7. Right now he'd be a handy player on a 6/2 bench. Defs has some growing to do physically as he's still young.

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            • YeetyaahY Yeetyaah

              @Crazy-Horse he was great at NPC level on the wing and at 7. Right now he'd be a handy player on a 6/2 bench. Defs has some growing to do physically as he's still young.

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              @Yeetyaah said in Chiefs 2025:

              @Crazy-Horse he was great at NPC level on the wing and at 7. Right now he'd be a handy player on a 6/2 bench. Defs has some growing to do physically as he's still young.

              Cheers. I don't recall him playing 7 in the NPC, but then again I didn't see every game.

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                @Yeetyaah said in Chiefs 2025:

                @Crazy-Horse he was great at NPC level on the wing and at 7. Right now he'd be a handy player on a 6/2 bench. Defs has some growing to do physically as he's still young.

                Cheers. I don't recall him playing 7 in the NPC, but then again I didn't see every game.

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                @Crazy-Horse

                This was the NPC match where Mathis started to make headlines.

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                • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                  @Yeetyaah said in Chiefs 2025:

                  @Crazy-Horse he was great at NPC level on the wing and at 7. Right now he'd be a handy player on a 6/2 bench. Defs has some growing to do physically as he's still young.

                  Cheers. I don't recall him playing 7 in the NPC, but then again I didn't see every game.

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                  @Crazy-Horse said in Chiefs 2025:

                  @Yeetyaah said in Chiefs 2025:

                  @Crazy-Horse he was great at NPC level on the wing and at 7. Right now he'd be a handy player on a 6/2 bench. Defs has some growing to do physically as he's still young.

                  Cheers. I don't recall him playing 7 in the NPC, but then again I didn't see every game.

                  A bit old school in that he is a very very mobile 7, but he's class and would be a weapon for a 6:2 bench.

                  https://www.facebook.com/reel/1041382624115908

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                    Obviously talented in space, and runs like a gifted back, but is he any good at core 7 duties?

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                      @Crazy-Horse

                      This was the NPC match where Mathis started to make headlines.

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                      @Bovidae I can't see the video. Is that the same game that @gt12 posted?

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                        Just watch some of his stuff at 7 and in the sevens and you will be quickly impressed at his skill set at tackle and turnover

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                        • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                          @Bovidae I can't see the video. Is that the same game that @gt12 posted?

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                          @Crazy-Horse Is a Sky Sport YT video geo-blocked? It was the Waikato-Northland game, which looking at the FB thumbnail is the same game.

                          I've seen Mathis play 7 since he was a Y11 at school and he won his share of breakdown turnovers at 1st XV level. Hopefully he is in the NZ U20s for the WC in that position.

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                            Given the Chiefs have lacked a specialist 7 since Cane retired it would seem ridiculous to lose someone of the potential of Mathis to another franchise. Possibly just lending so he gets some experience in a SR franchise? But then why not give him that experience in the Chiefs?

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                            • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                              Obviously talented in space, and runs like a gifted back, but is he any good at core 7 duties?

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                              @Crazy-Horse said in Chiefs 2025:

                              Obviously talented in space, and runs like a gifted back, but is he any good at core 7 duties?

                              He’s young but from what Ive seen he does well at the breakdown.

                              If you watch him at U20s he’s excellent so I’m pretty confident that he’ll go well at Super level.

                              My only concern is that he looks a bit like Messam to me - when I saw him as a high school player I was sure he’d be an AB and a great one. It took him time though (and I don’t think we’d call him ‘great’ although he is a Chiefs legend) because he was always juggling sevens and couldn’t get clarity is what he was at 15s. That’s my fear for Mathis and why I was actually against him going to 7s.

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                                  Dyer has been incredibly reliable but McKenzie has definitely been the key player for the Chiefs.

                                  Carter is really the only option for best debutant - only five players have debuted for the Chiefs is year, and Carter is the only 'rookie' of the lot. Even if it includes players new to the Chiefs, Brodie McAlister is the only other player that would be in contention.

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                                    Dyer has been incredibly reliable but McKenzie has definitely been the key player for the Chiefs.

                                    Carter is really the only option for best debutant - only five players have debuted for the Chiefs is year, and Carter is the only 'rookie' of the lot. Even if it includes players new to the Chiefs, Brodie McAlister is the only other player that would be in contention.

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                                    @Mr-Fish DMac and Tupaea also got awards. All on the Chiefs FB page.

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                                      Between Mathis and Carter, you'd be looking at a 7-1 bench split, would be disappointed to see Mathis head down south.

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                                        Tepaea Cook-Savage is training with the Chiefs.

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                                        • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                          Tepaea Cook-Savage is training with the Chiefs.

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                                          @Bovidae said in Chiefs 2025:

                                          Tepaea Cook-Savage is training with the Chiefs.

                                          Very pleased to hear that

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