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WR U20 Championship 2025

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  • BovidaeB Bovidae

    @Chris said in WR U20 Championship 2025:

    I am not sure what you see in Wiseman he didn't impress me in the RC.

    As I said, the midfield combo could be any of them. Wiseman was preferred to Harvey. It could end up being the Crusaders duo as Cameron was injured.

    I thought Wiseman was accurate and involved in a lot of tries by making the right decisions. He was still playing U18 last year so has at least one, if not two years of U20 eligibility left.

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    @Bovidae said in WR U20 Championship 2025:

    @Chris said in WR U20 Championship 2025:

    I am not sure what you see in Wiseman he didn't impress me in the RC.

    As I said, the midfield combo could be any of them. Wiseman was preferred to Harvey. It could end up being the Crusaders duo as Cameron was injured.

    I thought Wiseman was accurate and involved in a lot of tries by making the right decisions. He was still playing U18 last year so has at least one, if not two years of U20 eligibility left.

    I thought Wiseman went on his own at times and killed some attacking moments.
    I would prefer Cameron and Roberts or Harvey and Cameron.

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      Interesting to see that Mathis is named as being with the Chiefs?

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        Is Finn McLeod related to Dallas?

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        • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

          Is Finn McLeod related to Dallas?

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          @Crazy-Horse said in WR U20 Championship 2025:

          Is Finn McLeod related to Dallas?

          He is Grizz's grandson.

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            Interesting to see that Mathis is named as being with the Chiefs?

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            @gt12 said in WR U20 Championship 2025:

            Interesting to see that Mathis is named as being with the Chiefs?

            Yeah that is their u/20s sides not the SR teams.

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              Hello , what are the heights of Vakasiuola and Sa?

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                Hello , what are the heights of Vakasiuola and Sa?

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                @Mamuka said in WR U20 Championship 2025:

                Hello , what are the heights of Vakasiuola and Sa?

                Tengblad is easily the tallest of the locks chosen. I've seen Vakasiuola listed as about 1.97 m (more with the Ardie hair), and Sa is a little shorter.

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                • BovidaeB Bovidae

                  My top XV would be this:

                  1 Pole
                  2 Oudenryn (it will be Letiu)
                  3 Wallace
                  4 Vakasiuola
                  5 Tengblad
                  6 Sa
                  7 Mathis
                  8 Bason
                  9 Pledger
                  10 Simpson/Cole
                  11 Vaenuku
                  12 Wiseman
                  13 Cameron
                  14 Kunawave
                  15 Solomon

                  The loose forward and midfield combinations will be hotly contested. I would select Sa as a 6, not a lock.

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                  @Bovidae said in WR U20 Championship 2025:

                  My top XV would be this:

                  1 Pole
                  2 Oudenryn (it will be Letiu)
                  3 Wallace
                  4 Vakasiuola
                  5 Tengblad
                  6 Sa
                  7 Mathis
                  8 Bason
                  9 Pledger
                  10 Simpson/Cole
                  11 Vaenuku
                  12 Wiseman
                  13 Cameron
                  14 Kunawave
                  15 Solomon

                  The loose forward and midfield combinations will be hotly contested. I would select Sa as a 6, not a lock.

                  My own preferences are pretty similar to this, including Sa as a blindside option.

                  One thing I'll say though, after watching way too many defensive sets from the U20 TRC, is that Xavier Treacy and Cooper Roberts put in big defensive shifts during that tournament. I'm not sure you can leave them out. Treacy was also a very reliable lineout option.

                  I would probably put Vakasiuola on the bench, to provide impact in the final 20-30 minutes. I'd like to see Cameron have a shot at 12 since I'm just intrigued to see what he can offer there.

                  I'm a bit miffed at Tofilau not being selected, I thought he did more than enough to earn his spot. Ahloo, on the other hand, can probably count himself a bit lucky, as I didn't think he had a good tournament. He's still a promising player, so hopefully he has an improved showing in Italy.

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                  • MaussM Mauss

                    @Bovidae said in WR U20 Championship 2025:

                    My top XV would be this:

                    1 Pole
                    2 Oudenryn (it will be Letiu)
                    3 Wallace
                    4 Vakasiuola
                    5 Tengblad
                    6 Sa
                    7 Mathis
                    8 Bason
                    9 Pledger
                    10 Simpson/Cole
                    11 Vaenuku
                    12 Wiseman
                    13 Cameron
                    14 Kunawave
                    15 Solomon

                    The loose forward and midfield combinations will be hotly contested. I would select Sa as a 6, not a lock.

                    My own preferences are pretty similar to this, including Sa as a blindside option.

                    One thing I'll say though, after watching way too many defensive sets from the U20 TRC, is that Xavier Treacy and Cooper Roberts put in big defensive shifts during that tournament. I'm not sure you can leave them out. Treacy was also a very reliable lineout option.

                    I would probably put Vakasiuola on the bench, to provide impact in the final 20-30 minutes. I'd like to see Cameron have a shot at 12 since I'm just intrigued to see what he can offer there.

                    I'm a bit miffed at Tofilau not being selected, I thought he did more than enough to earn his spot. Ahloo, on the other hand, can probably count himself a bit lucky, as I didn't think he had a good tournament. He's still a promising player, so hopefully he has an improved showing in Italy.

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                    @Mauss Agreed, plus Tofilau's bulk could be useful if we come up against France or England in the tournament

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                      Milton Haig has stepped down. Credit to the person that suggested it yesterday.

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                        I would've thought Joey Taumateine and Tito-Harris would have been there.

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                          "I do not feel I’m fully aligned with the coaching group around things like playing style, so have made the difficult decision to step aside to give the team its best chance of reaching its full potential".

                          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360704357/not-aligned-nz-under-20-rugby-coach-milton-haig-makes-shock-announcement

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                            So did he walk or was he pushed? Either way, hopefully it is better for the team

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                              England lost Wales when Pollock got called up to the senior team. He will be away with the lions so England won't be as strong as the looked early in the 6 nations. France will lose some players to the NZ tour. Players like tuilagi will probably be with the seniors in NZ. NZ have a great chance of winning this with a easy group. Ireland came last in the 6 nations

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                              • Z zedsdeadbaby

                                Milton Haig has stepped down. Credit to the person that suggested it yesterday.

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                                @zedsdeadbaby said in WR U20 Championship 2025:

                                Milton Haig has stepped down.

                                Is it time to parachute in the Professor for another quick fix?

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                                • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

                                  @zedsdeadbaby said in WR U20 Championship 2025:

                                  Milton Haig has stepped down.

                                  Is it time to parachute in the Professor for another quick fix?

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                                  canefan
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                                  @Daffy-Jaffy said in WR U20 Championship 2025:

                                  @zedsdeadbaby said in WR U20 Championship 2025:

                                  Milton Haig has stepped down.

                                  Is it time to parachute in the Professor for another quick fix?

                                  Isn't he with the black ferns?

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                                  • MaussM Mauss

                                    @Bovidae said in WR U20 Championship 2025:

                                    My top XV would be this:

                                    1 Pole
                                    2 Oudenryn (it will be Letiu)
                                    3 Wallace
                                    4 Vakasiuola
                                    5 Tengblad
                                    6 Sa
                                    7 Mathis
                                    8 Bason
                                    9 Pledger
                                    10 Simpson/Cole
                                    11 Vaenuku
                                    12 Wiseman
                                    13 Cameron
                                    14 Kunawave
                                    15 Solomon

                                    The loose forward and midfield combinations will be hotly contested. I would select Sa as a 6, not a lock.

                                    My own preferences are pretty similar to this, including Sa as a blindside option.

                                    One thing I'll say though, after watching way too many defensive sets from the U20 TRC, is that Xavier Treacy and Cooper Roberts put in big defensive shifts during that tournament. I'm not sure you can leave them out. Treacy was also a very reliable lineout option.

                                    I would probably put Vakasiuola on the bench, to provide impact in the final 20-30 minutes. I'd like to see Cameron have a shot at 12 since I'm just intrigued to see what he can offer there.

                                    I'm a bit miffed at Tofilau not being selected, I thought he did more than enough to earn his spot. Ahloo, on the other hand, can probably count himself a bit lucky, as I didn't think he had a good tournament. He's still a promising player, so hopefully he has an improved showing in Italy.

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                                    Bovidae
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                                    @Mauss said in WR U20 Championship 2025:

                                    I'm a bit miffed at Tofilau not being selected, I thought he did more than enough to earn his spot. Ahloo, on the other hand, can probably count himself a bit lucky, as I didn't think he had a good tournament.

                                    As I said when the RC squad was named, I don't think they've got their prop selections right. Nothing has really changed, even with the addition of Wallace. Italy and Georgia will be a test for the scrum.

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                                    • H hikastags

                                      I would've thought Joey Taumateine and Tito-Harris would have been there.

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                                      Bovidae
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                                      @hikastags said in WR U20 Championship 2025:

                                      I would've thought Joey Taumateine and Tito-Harris would have been there.

                                      Taumateine might still be injured.

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                                      • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                        @Mauss said in WR U20 Championship 2025:

                                        I'm a bit miffed at Tofilau not being selected, I thought he did more than enough to earn his spot. Ahloo, on the other hand, can probably count himself a bit lucky, as I didn't think he had a good tournament.

                                        As I said when the RC squad was named, I don't think they've got their prop selections right. Nothing has really changed, even with the addition of Wallace. Italy and Georgia will be a test for the scrum.

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                                        Mamuka
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                                        @Bovidae This year, Georgia does not have dominant props, but the scrums will still be interesting

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                                          Any word on the real reasons for Haig going?

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