Highlanders Vs Chiefs
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@antipodean said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@Bones said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@antipodean said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@Bones said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@antipodean said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@Bones said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@antipodean said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@Landers92 said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@antipodean said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@Landers92 said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
God it would be good if Finau hit someone other than 10’s
It's a good start though. How many other loose forwards are making 10s terrified of receiving a pass?
He’s been the same for 3 years. Does that mean it started 3 years ago? He’s got big hit potential, just wish it were on other forwards or midfielders as well
Sure, but it's easier on obvious plays where you can get that momentum. And yet none of our other players are doing it.
Not pointlessly anyway.
What makes it pointless?
Hitting a ten that easily gets the ball away while taking yourself out of the defence and 20 metres behind the play isn't the greatest win. Probably not a big deal when it's just a training run anyway, but doesn't add much.
Au contraire - it makes them stand deeper, giving your defence more time. It can also make them nervous to so sneak a quick look and knock on.
Only if it's a proper rib tickler, miller got straight up and I doubt many worry about it after that.
A lot of people get up after getting smashed and are still affected.
I just think if you're a ten, you're not that worried about a guy that can't even smack another forward. In fact you're probably happy to draw him out - you're doing your job. If he can actually replicate on at least a loosie, different story.
@Bones said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@antipodean said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@Bones said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@antipodean said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@Bones said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@antipodean said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@Bones said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@antipodean said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@Landers92 said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@antipodean said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@Landers92 said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
God it would be good if Finau hit someone other than 10’s
It's a good start though. How many other loose forwards are making 10s terrified of receiving a pass?
He’s been the same for 3 years. Does that mean it started 3 years ago? He’s got big hit potential, just wish it were on other forwards or midfielders as well
Sure, but it's easier on obvious plays where you can get that momentum. And yet none of our other players are doing it.
Not pointlessly anyway.
What makes it pointless?
Hitting a ten that easily gets the ball away while taking yourself out of the defence and 20 metres behind the play isn't the greatest win. Probably not a big deal when it's just a training run anyway, but doesn't add much.
Au contraire - it makes them stand deeper, giving your defence more time. It can also make them nervous to so sneak a quick look and knock on.
Only if it's a proper rib tickler, miller got straight up and I doubt many worry about it after that.
A lot of people get up after getting smashed and are still affected.
I just think if you're a ten, you're not that worried about a guy that can't even smack another forward. In fact you're probably happy to draw him out - you're doing your job. If he can actually replicate on at least a loosie, different story.
I'd like some evidence for the inherent premise Finau doesn't tackle as well/ hard as all the other loose forwards. Because if he does, and also does the odd hit on 10s, what's the problem?
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@Bones said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@antipodean said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@Bones said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@antipodean said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@Bones said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@antipodean said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@Bones said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@antipodean said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@Landers92 said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@antipodean said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@Landers92 said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
God it would be good if Finau hit someone other than 10’s
It's a good start though. How many other loose forwards are making 10s terrified of receiving a pass?
He’s been the same for 3 years. Does that mean it started 3 years ago? He’s got big hit potential, just wish it were on other forwards or midfielders as well
Sure, but it's easier on obvious plays where you can get that momentum. And yet none of our other players are doing it.
Not pointlessly anyway.
What makes it pointless?
Hitting a ten that easily gets the ball away while taking yourself out of the defence and 20 metres behind the play isn't the greatest win. Probably not a big deal when it's just a training run anyway, but doesn't add much.
Au contraire - it makes them stand deeper, giving your defence more time. It can also make them nervous to so sneak a quick look and knock on.
Only if it's a proper rib tickler, miller got straight up and I doubt many worry about it after that.
A lot of people get up after getting smashed and are still affected.
I just think if you're a ten, you're not that worried about a guy that can't even smack another forward. In fact you're probably happy to draw him out - you're doing your job. If he can actually replicate on at least a loosie, different story.
I'd like some evidence for the inherent premise Finau doesn't tackle as well/ hard as all the other loose forwards. Because if he does, and also does the odd hit on 10s, what's the problem?
@antipodean said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@Bones said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@antipodean said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@Bones said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@antipodean said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@Bones said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@antipodean said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@Bones said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@antipodean said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@Landers92 said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@antipodean said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@Landers92 said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
God it would be good if Finau hit someone other than 10’s
It's a good start though. How many other loose forwards are making 10s terrified of receiving a pass?
He’s been the same for 3 years. Does that mean it started 3 years ago? He’s got big hit potential, just wish it were on other forwards or midfielders as well
Sure, but it's easier on obvious plays where you can get that momentum. And yet none of our other players are doing it.
Not pointlessly anyway.
What makes it pointless?
Hitting a ten that easily gets the ball away while taking yourself out of the defence and 20 metres behind the play isn't the greatest win. Probably not a big deal when it's just a training run anyway, but doesn't add much.
Au contraire - it makes them stand deeper, giving your defence more time. It can also make them nervous to so sneak a quick look and knock on.
Only if it's a proper rib tickler, miller got straight up and I doubt many worry about it after that.
A lot of people get up after getting smashed and are still affected.
I just think if you're a ten, you're not that worried about a guy that can't even smack another forward. In fact you're probably happy to draw him out - you're doing your job. If he can actually replicate on at least a loosie, different story.
I'd like some evidence for the inherent premise Finau doesn't tackle as well/ hard as all the other loose forwards. Because if he does, and also does the odd hit on 10s, what's the problem?
Yep, evidence of him smacking other loosies is exactly what we're asking for!
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@antipodean said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@Bones said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@antipodean said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@Bones said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@antipodean said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@Bones said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@antipodean said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@Bones said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@antipodean said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@Landers92 said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@antipodean said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@Landers92 said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
God it would be good if Finau hit someone other than 10’s
It's a good start though. How many other loose forwards are making 10s terrified of receiving a pass?
He’s been the same for 3 years. Does that mean it started 3 years ago? He’s got big hit potential, just wish it were on other forwards or midfielders as well
Sure, but it's easier on obvious plays where you can get that momentum. And yet none of our other players are doing it.
Not pointlessly anyway.
What makes it pointless?
Hitting a ten that easily gets the ball away while taking yourself out of the defence and 20 metres behind the play isn't the greatest win. Probably not a big deal when it's just a training run anyway, but doesn't add much.
Au contraire - it makes them stand deeper, giving your defence more time. It can also make them nervous to so sneak a quick look and knock on.
Only if it's a proper rib tickler, miller got straight up and I doubt many worry about it after that.
A lot of people get up after getting smashed and are still affected.
I just think if you're a ten, you're not that worried about a guy that can't even smack another forward. In fact you're probably happy to draw him out - you're doing your job. If he can actually replicate on at least a loosie, different story.
I'd like some evidence for the inherent premise Finau doesn't tackle as well/ hard as all the other loose forwards. Because if he does, and also does the odd hit on 10s, what's the problem?
Yep, evidence of him smacking other loosies is exactly what we're asking for!
@Bones said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@antipodean said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@Bones said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@antipodean said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@Bones said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@antipodean said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@Bones said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@antipodean said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@Bones said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@antipodean said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@Landers92 said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@antipodean said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@Landers92 said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
God it would be good if Finau hit someone other than 10’s
It's a good start though. How many other loose forwards are making 10s terrified of receiving a pass?
He’s been the same for 3 years. Does that mean it started 3 years ago? He’s got big hit potential, just wish it were on other forwards or midfielders as well
Sure, but it's easier on obvious plays where you can get that momentum. And yet none of our other players are doing it.
Not pointlessly anyway.
What makes it pointless?
Hitting a ten that easily gets the ball away while taking yourself out of the defence and 20 metres behind the play isn't the greatest win. Probably not a big deal when it's just a training run anyway, but doesn't add much.
Au contraire - it makes them stand deeper, giving your defence more time. It can also make them nervous to so sneak a quick look and knock on.
Only if it's a proper rib tickler, miller got straight up and I doubt many worry about it after that.
A lot of people get up after getting smashed and are still affected.
I just think if you're a ten, you're not that worried about a guy that can't even smack another forward. In fact you're probably happy to draw him out - you're doing your job. If he can actually replicate on at least a loosie, different story.
I'd like some evidence for the inherent premise Finau doesn't tackle as well/ hard as all the other loose forwards. Because if he does, and also does the odd hit on 10s, what's the problem?
Yep, evidence of him smacking other loosies is exactly what we're asking for!
I'll file that with the posts asking for that of other loose forwards.
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@antipodean said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@Bones said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@antipodean said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@Bones said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@antipodean said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@Bones said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@antipodean said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@Bones said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@antipodean said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@Landers92 said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@antipodean said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@Landers92 said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
God it would be good if Finau hit someone other than 10’s
It's a good start though. How many other loose forwards are making 10s terrified of receiving a pass?
He’s been the same for 3 years. Does that mean it started 3 years ago? He’s got big hit potential, just wish it were on other forwards or midfielders as well
Sure, but it's easier on obvious plays where you can get that momentum. And yet none of our other players are doing it.
Not pointlessly anyway.
What makes it pointless?
Hitting a ten that easily gets the ball away while taking yourself out of the defence and 20 metres behind the play isn't the greatest win. Probably not a big deal when it's just a training run anyway, but doesn't add much.
Au contraire - it makes them stand deeper, giving your defence more time. It can also make them nervous to so sneak a quick look and knock on.
Only if it's a proper rib tickler, miller got straight up and I doubt many worry about it after that.
A lot of people get up after getting smashed and are still affected.
I just think if you're a ten, you're not that worried about a guy that can't even smack another forward. In fact you're probably happy to draw him out - you're doing your job. If he can actually replicate on at least a loosie, different story.
I'd like some evidence for the inherent premise Finau doesn't tackle as well/ hard as all the other loose forwards. Because if he does, and also does the odd hit on 10s, what's the problem?
Yep, evidence of him smacking other loosies is exactly what we're asking for!
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@Bones said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@antipodean said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@Bones said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@antipodean said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@Bones said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@antipodean said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@Bones said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@antipodean said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@Bones said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@antipodean said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@Landers92 said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@antipodean said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@Landers92 said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
God it would be good if Finau hit someone other than 10’s
It's a good start though. How many other loose forwards are making 10s terrified of receiving a pass?
He’s been the same for 3 years. Does that mean it started 3 years ago? He’s got big hit potential, just wish it were on other forwards or midfielders as well
Sure, but it's easier on obvious plays where you can get that momentum. And yet none of our other players are doing it.
Not pointlessly anyway.
What makes it pointless?
Hitting a ten that easily gets the ball away while taking yourself out of the defence and 20 metres behind the play isn't the greatest win. Probably not a big deal when it's just a training run anyway, but doesn't add much.
Au contraire - it makes them stand deeper, giving your defence more time. It can also make them nervous to so sneak a quick look and knock on.
Only if it's a proper rib tickler, miller got straight up and I doubt many worry about it after that.
A lot of people get up after getting smashed and are still affected.
I just think if you're a ten, you're not that worried about a guy that can't even smack another forward. In fact you're probably happy to draw him out - you're doing your job. If he can actually replicate on at least a loosie, different story.
I'd like some evidence for the inherent premise Finau doesn't tackle as well/ hard as all the other loose forwards. Because if he does, and also does the odd hit on 10s, what's the problem?
Yep, evidence of him smacking other loosies is exactly what we're asking for!
I'll file that with the posts asking for that of other loose forwards.
@antipodean said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@Bones said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@antipodean said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@Bones said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@antipodean said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@Bones said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@antipodean said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@Bones said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@antipodean said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@Bones said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@antipodean said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@Landers92 said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@antipodean said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@Landers92 said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
God it would be good if Finau hit someone other than 10’s
It's a good start though. How many other loose forwards are making 10s terrified of receiving a pass?
He’s been the same for 3 years. Does that mean it started 3 years ago? He’s got big hit potential, just wish it were on other forwards or midfielders as well
Sure, but it's easier on obvious plays where you can get that momentum. And yet none of our other players are doing it.
Not pointlessly anyway.
What makes it pointless?
Hitting a ten that easily gets the ball away while taking yourself out of the defence and 20 metres behind the play isn't the greatest win. Probably not a big deal when it's just a training run anyway, but doesn't add much.
Au contraire - it makes them stand deeper, giving your defence more time. It can also make them nervous to so sneak a quick look and knock on.
Only if it's a proper rib tickler, miller got straight up and I doubt many worry about it after that.
A lot of people get up after getting smashed and are still affected.
I just think if you're a ten, you're not that worried about a guy that can't even smack another forward. In fact you're probably happy to draw him out - you're doing your job. If he can actually replicate on at least a loosie, different story.
I'd like some evidence for the inherent premise Finau doesn't tackle as well/ hard as all the other loose forwards. Because if he does, and also does the odd hit on 10s, what's the problem?
Yep, evidence of him smacking other loosies is exactly what we're asking for!
I'll file that with the posts asking for that of other loose forwards.
I've argued from your angle before this season, was just hoping to see.... well more strings to his bow this season. He's been underwhelming for mine.
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@Yeetyaah said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
Epic try Landers so good to get up after a farcical yellow card
He plays like a shorter 2023-24 version of Mark Tele'a. Strong in the contact area and difficult to put to ground.
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Wow ,Just when you thought the Chiefs looked like they might wrack up a big score it all changes
I do wonder if the injury to Quinn Tupaea had mentally thrown them -
Rewound to the Quinn injury. De Groot cleaned him so potentially copped a stray finger or something along those lines?
@Yeetyaah said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
Rewound to the Quinn injury. De Groot cleaned him so potentially copped a stray finger or something along those lines?
I think he got into a reasonable position but Withy got lower and may have headbutted him in the process. Nothing deliberate - just an accident.
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@Bones He's a decent player, but I've not really noticed him consistently slowing down opposition ball with strong tackling. Compare to Akira Ioane at Super Rugby level.
@Tim said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@Bones He's a decent player, but I've not really noticed him consistently slowing down opposition ball with strong tackling. Compare to Akira Ioane at Super Rugby level.
Strongly agree, which makes Razor's shunning of him all the more difficult to comprehend.
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@Yeetyaah said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
Rewound to the Quinn injury. De Groot cleaned him so potentially copped a stray finger or something along those lines?
I think he got into a reasonable position but Withy got lower and may have headbutted him in the process. Nothing deliberate - just an accident.
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@antipodean said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@Bones said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@antipodean said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@Bones said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@antipodean said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@Bones said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@antipodean said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@Bones said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@antipodean said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@Bones said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@antipodean said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@Landers92 said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@antipodean said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@Landers92 said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
God it would be good if Finau hit someone other than 10’s
It's a good start though. How many other loose forwards are making 10s terrified of receiving a pass?
He’s been the same for 3 years. Does that mean it started 3 years ago? He’s got big hit potential, just wish it were on other forwards or midfielders as well
Sure, but it's easier on obvious plays where you can get that momentum. And yet none of our other players are doing it.
Not pointlessly anyway.
What makes it pointless?
Hitting a ten that easily gets the ball away while taking yourself out of the defence and 20 metres behind the play isn't the greatest win. Probably not a big deal when it's just a training run anyway, but doesn't add much.
Au contraire - it makes them stand deeper, giving your defence more time. It can also make them nervous to so sneak a quick look and knock on.
Only if it's a proper rib tickler, miller got straight up and I doubt many worry about it after that.
A lot of people get up after getting smashed and are still affected.
I just think if you're a ten, you're not that worried about a guy that can't even smack another forward. In fact you're probably happy to draw him out - you're doing your job. If he can actually replicate on at least a loosie, different story.
I'd like some evidence for the inherent premise Finau doesn't tackle as well/ hard as all the other loose forwards. Because if he does, and also does the odd hit on 10s, what's the problem?
Yep, evidence of him smacking other loosies is exactly what we're asking for!
I'll file that with the posts asking for that of other loose forwards.
I've argued from your angle before this season, was just hoping to see.... well more strings to his bow this season. He's been underwhelming for mine.
@Bones said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@antipodean said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@Bones said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@antipodean said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@Bones said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@antipodean said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@Bones said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@antipodean said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@Bones said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@antipodean said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@Bones said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@antipodean said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@Landers92 said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@antipodean said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@Landers92 said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
God it would be good if Finau hit someone other than 10’s
It's a good start though. How many other loose forwards are making 10s terrified of receiving a pass?
He’s been the same for 3 years. Does that mean it started 3 years ago? He’s got big hit potential, just wish it were on other forwards or midfielders as well
Sure, but it's easier on obvious plays where you can get that momentum. And yet none of our other players are doing it.
Not pointlessly anyway.
What makes it pointless?
Hitting a ten that easily gets the ball away while taking yourself out of the defence and 20 metres behind the play isn't the greatest win. Probably not a big deal when it's just a training run anyway, but doesn't add much.
Au contraire - it makes them stand deeper, giving your defence more time. It can also make them nervous to so sneak a quick look and knock on.
Only if it's a proper rib tickler, miller got straight up and I doubt many worry about it after that.
A lot of people get up after getting smashed and are still affected.
I just think if you're a ten, you're not that worried about a guy that can't even smack another forward. In fact you're probably happy to draw him out - you're doing your job. If he can actually replicate on at least a loosie, different story.
I'd like some evidence for the inherent premise Finau doesn't tackle as well/ hard as all the other loose forwards. Because if he does, and also does the odd hit on 10s, what's the problem?
Yep, evidence of him smacking other loosies is exactly what we're asking for!
I'll file that with the posts asking for that of other loose forwards.
I've argued from your angle before this season, was just hoping to see.... well more strings to his bow this season. He's been underwhelming for mine.
Very much like a bunch of recent 6s...loads of potential but not regularly operating in the high end of it..
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Tupaea up and walking around in the changing rooms. Good to see.
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@antipodean didn't look like that from end but accidental head on head is still head on head right?
@Yeetyaah said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@antipodean didn't look like that from end but accidental head on head is still head on head right?
Who knows these days. I don't want the game to be penalising people who get into a good position to make a tackle get carded as a direct result of the attacker dipping. It's nice to see some common sense applied.
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@Yeetyaah said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@antipodean didn't look like that from end but accidental head on head is still head on head right?
Who knows these days. I don't want the game to be penalising people who get into a good position to make a tackle get carded as a direct result of the attacker dipping. It's nice to see some common sense applied.
@antipodean just carding people for "shoulders to the head" instead
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@antipodean just carding people for "shoulders to the head" instead
@Yeetyaah Well, yeah, I'm not defending that!
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By geez the steam gone from Chiefs when Tupaea got injured. I would of thought rona to 12, and Jacomb at 15 would of been better option? Move one of wings to 13?
@Dan54 said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
By geez the steam gone from Chiefs when Tupaea got injured. I would have thought rona to 12, and Jacomb at 15 would have been better option? Move one of wings to 13?
It shows to be that Tupaea has very much been the glue in the Chiefs backline this year. He'll be a big loss if he is unavailable for any of the playoffs.
