Super Rugby 2025
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@WestieFella said in Super Rugby 2025:
@frugby said in Super Rugby 2025:
@Yeetyaah said in Super Rugby 2025:
@Canes4life Surely for integrities sake that's the first game played. Would be shithouse if they both rest their top teams coz they potentially have a guaranteed second chance.
I thought 3v4 was guaranteed to be played first for this very reason?
Me too.
When the new format was announced I'd assumed that 3v4 would be first followed by 2v5, so none of those teams could afford to lose just in case #1 losses to #6.
#1 is the only team guaranteed a 2nd chance, so play their game last as the previous games are irrelevant to both teams.If the Brumbies are hosting then it would be difficult to have their game first as it's in Aus.
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@Canes4life how so? 9.35 kickoff like any other game. The Brumbies Crusaders game is this Friday at 9.35?
@Yeetyaah said in Super Rugby 2025:
@Canes4life how so? 9.35 kickoff like any other game. The Brumbies Crusaders game is this Friday at 9.35?
Yeah but what I'm saying is that two playoff games will be in NZ, so one of these will be played before the 3rd and 4th playoff. This game can't be the first playoff game, unless they play the two NZ games on the Saturday, and this game on Friday night.
Anyway, we don't know the results yet so no point talking about it. The Canes could quite easily be playing the Crusaders next week if they don't win in Canberra.
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@WestieFella said in Super Rugby 2025:
@frugby said in Super Rugby 2025:
@Yeetyaah said in Super Rugby 2025:
@Canes4life Surely for integrities sake that's the first game played. Would be shithouse if they both rest their top teams coz they potentially have a guaranteed second chance.
I thought 3v4 was guaranteed to be played first for this very reason?
Me too.
When the new format was announced I'd assumed that 3v4 would be first followed by 2v5, so none of those teams could afford to lose just in case #1 losses to #6.
#1 is the only team guaranteed a 2nd chance, so play their game last as the previous games are irrelevant to both teams.If the Brumbies are hosting then it would be difficult to have their game first as it's in Aus.
@Canes4life said in Super Rugby 2025:
@WestieFella said in Super Rugby 2025:
@frugby said in Super Rugby 2025:
@Yeetyaah said in Super Rugby 2025:
@Canes4life Surely for integrities sake that's the first game played. Would be shithouse if they both rest their top teams coz they potentially have a guaranteed second chance.
I thought 3v4 was guaranteed to be played first for this very reason?
Me too.
When the new format was announced I'd assumed that 3v4 would be first followed by 2v5, so none of those teams could afford to lose just in case #1 losses to #6.
#1 is the only team guaranteed a 2nd chance, so play their game last as the previous games are irrelevant to both teams.If the Brumbies are hosting then it would be difficult to have their game first as it's in Aus.
As my dad used to say "if we can put a man on the moon I'm sure we sort this out"
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He is a Kiwi (.and he’s also Tonga). Born and schooled in Marlborough to a well known family there - Tonga got him on their radar in 2022/23 when he was still a teenager through his heritage when he’d barely left high school and was offered a chance to play at a World Cup as they had a number of injuries and the like.
There’s more egregious examples of poaching/nation switching than this - agree there are issues with using this team as a pathway but this seems like a case of a young Kiwi guy who probably didn’t know the true nature of his talents and probably wouldn’t have represented Tonga if he thought he was an All Blacks contender.
If his departure to the Chiefs is confirmed it probably allows another Pacific Island player to take his spot, who is committed to representing one of those sides.@zedsdeadbaby said in Super Rugby 2025:
He is a Kiwi (.and he’s also Tonga). Born and schooled in Marlborough to a well known family there - Tonga got him on their radar in 2022/23 when he was still a teenager through his heritage when he’d barely left high school and was offered a chance to play at a World Cup as they had a number of injuries and the like.
There’s more egregious examples of poaching/nation switching than this - agree there are issues with using this team as a pathway but this seems like a case of a young Kiwi guy who probably didn’t know the true nature of his talents and probably wouldn’t have represented Tonga if he thought he was an All Blacks contender.
If his departure to the Chiefs is confirmed it probably allows another Pacific Island player to take his spot, who is committed to representing one of those sides.Honestly, it seems a calculated move on his part. Play at a world cup in your teens.
Dont play for them again.
Stand down period means you will be 22/23 when available for your own country
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So cutting the Rebels has had the effect of
Losing a game a weekend, but at least the ladder looks different.
The Brumbies are going to come 3rd
Every other Aussie team missing the finals.
Oh.
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So cutting the Rebels has had the effect of
Losing a game a weekend, but at least the ladder looks different.
The Brumbies are going to come 3rd
Every other Aussie team missing the finals.
Oh.
@mariner4life said in Super Rugby 2025:
So cutting the Rebels has had the effect of
Losing a game a weekend, but at least the ladder looks different.
The Brumbies are going to come 3rd
Every other Aussie team missing the finals.
Oh.
Tahs have gone from 2 wins last year to at least 6 wins
They've gone from wooden spooners to having a chance at the playoffs in the final weekend
It's harder to get into playoffs with 6 spots out of 11 vs 8 spots out of 12
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So cutting the Rebels has had the effect of
Losing a game a weekend, but at least the ladder looks different.
The Brumbies are going to come 3rd
Every other Aussie team missing the finals.
Oh.
@mariner4life said in Super Rugby 2025:
So cutting the Rebels has had the effect of
Losing a game a weekend, but at least the ladder looks different.
The Brumbies are going to come 3rd
Every other Aussie team missing the finals.
Oh.
The Reds are in the finals.
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On what games should be played first, etc in first week of finals? Should make no difference, I would expect every team to be trying to win anyway. shouldn't make any difference of other results.
@Dan54 said in Super Rugby 2025:
On what games should be played first, etc in first week of finals? Should make no difference, I would expect every team to be trying to win anyway. shouldn't make any difference of other results.
If 3v4 is the last game, and #1 & #2 already won their games, them both 3 & 4 are already guaranteed through before their game even kicks off.
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@Dan54 said in Super Rugby 2025:
On what games should be played first, etc in first week of finals? Should make no difference, I would expect every team to be trying to win anyway. shouldn't make any difference of other results.
If 3v4 is the last game, and #1 & #2 already won their games, them both 3 & 4 are already guaranteed through before their game even kicks off.
@WestieFella said in Super Rugby 2025:
@Dan54 said in Super Rugby 2025:
On what games should be played first, etc in first week of finals? Should make no difference, I would expect every team to be trying to win anyway. shouldn't make any difference of other results.
If 3v4 is the last game, and #1 & #2 already won their games, them both 3 & 4 are already guaranteed through before their game even kicks off.
That’s right and it will likely be the case. With the Canes playing tonight and assuming they get the win, they would need to give the Canes 7 days to prepare so highly likely it will be Saturday night in Canberra once the other games have been played.
Or they could play the game in the afternoon, so it’s before one of the NZ based games, however I doubt they will.
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@SBW1 Lalakai Foketi.
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@SBW1 said in Brumbies v Crusaders:
What does a number 2 spot mean for the Saders is this an extra lifeline?
Of the losing teams next weekend the highest seed with survive
So Chiefs can't get knocked out and Crusaders can only get knocked out if both Chiefs and Crusaders lose
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@WestieFella said in Super Rugby 2025:
@Dan54 said in Super Rugby 2025:
On what games should be played first, etc in first week of finals? Should make no difference, I would expect every team to be trying to win anyway. shouldn't make any difference of other results.
If 3v4 is the last game, and #1 & #2 already won their games, them both 3 & 4 are already guaranteed through before their game even kicks off.
That’s right and it will likely be the case. With the Canes playing tonight and assuming they get the win, they would need to give the Canes 7 days to prepare so highly likely it will be Saturday night in Canberra once the other games have been played.
Or they could play the game in the afternoon, so it’s before one of the NZ based games, however I doubt they will.
@Canes4life said in Super Rugby 2025:
they would need to give the Canes 7 days to prepare
Based on what? Plenty of teams have had 6 day turnarounds this season.
Chiefs had a 6 day turnaround between the final round and QFs last year.
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3rd place is the 2nd game on Saturday
2nd place on Friday night
1st Place Saturday the 1st game
This is what I am hearing.
