Super Rugby 2025
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Is it just me or is the playoff set up the most complicated thing since forever?
@MiketheSnow I dont think it's too complicated. But I'll admit it's not simple.
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Is it just me or is the playoff set up the most complicated thing since forever?
@MiketheSnow I find it not right how one of the Brumbies or the Hurricanes could get beaten by 100+ points next weekend, but rise up from the dead for the Semi Final.
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The only way the Brumbies v Hurricanes game isn't a dead rubber is if either the chiefs or crusaders lose. Then the brumbies v hurricanes is a straight knock out...
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The only way the Brumbies v Hurricanes game isn't a dead rubber is if either the chiefs or crusaders lose. Then the brumbies v hurricanes is a straight knock out...
@WestieFella But they will know the results of those other two games by the time they play. That is surely a massive error by the organisers.
We could have a spectacle that lets down the fans who have played to watch a knockout match and does massive damage to the reputation of the tournament.
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@WestieFella But they will know the results of those other two games by the time they play. That is surely a massive error by the organisers.
We could have a spectacle that lets down the fans who have played to watch a knockout match and does massive damage to the reputation of the tournament.
@sparky exactly. The best way would be to schedule 3v4, then 2v5, then 1v6 on that order.
3v4, the loser can't assume they'll be the lucky loser as either #1 or #2 might lose.
2v5, likewise #2 can't afford to lose in case #1 was to slip up. #5 can never be a lucky loser.
1v6, #1 is always going to get a second chance regardless of the previous results, and #6 can never be a lucky loser.I don't mind the concept, reward for finishing at the top after the regular season is a 2nd chance.
But having 3v4 last is just wrong.Also, I'd like the lucky loser to be seeded last for the semis. If you lose you get a 2nd chance but kiss goodbye to home field advantage, you now have to do it the hard way.
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The only other way they could have done by having a top 6 playoff would be to give the top 2 a week off, then 3 hosts 6 and 4 hosts 5. Winner over those matches plays 1 and 2 in the semis.
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The only other way they could have done by having a top 6 playoff would be to give the top 2 a week off, then 3 hosts 6 and 4 hosts 5. Winner over those matches plays 1 and 2 in the semis.
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@Canes4life Nope. You could have the team that loses by least from the three play off games be the lucky loser. They are other ways to sort this. The Super Rugby authorities have chosen an option that risks deciding into farce.
@sparky said in Super Rugby 2025:
@Canes4life Nope. You could have the team that loses by least from the three play off games be the lucky loser. They are other ways to sort this. The Super Rugby authorities have chosen an option that risks deciding into farce.
Nah that’s worse than what they’ve got IMO because it doesn’t reward the higher ranked team over a whole season. I don’t mind the lucky loser scenario because if there were more teams in this comp then the 4th placed team would be hosting a quarter final anyway and would likely have gone through.
The one team Super Rugby probably didn’t want hosting that 3v4 game were the Brumbies. I’m not surprised at all that this game has been scheduled on Saturday but unfortunately it means we’ll have a ‘friendly’ type situation on our hands if both 1 and 2 win prior to the match kicking off.
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I tell you what if my Canes went out and said it doesn't matter if we win or lose as we still got a life, I would find it very hard to support them again.
@Dan54 said in Super Rugby 2025:
I tell you what if my Canes went out and said it doesn't matter if we win or lose as we still got a life, I would find it very hard to support them again.
Don't worry they won't say it, but they will be thinking it. It’s a very human thought.
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The only other way they could have done by having a top 6 playoff would be to give the top 2 a week off, then 3 hosts 6 and 4 hosts 5. Winner over those matches plays 1 and 2 in the semis.
@Canes4life said in Super Rugby 2025:
The only other way they could have done by having a top 6 playoff would be to give the top 2 a week off, then 3 hosts 6 and 4 hosts 5. Winner over those matches plays 1 and 2 in the semis.
This 1 million %
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@sparky said in Super Rugby 2025:
@Canes4life Nope. You could have the team that loses by least from the three play off games be the lucky loser. They are other ways to sort this. The Super Rugby authorities have chosen an option that risks deciding into farce.
Nah that’s worse than what they’ve got IMO because it doesn’t reward the higher ranked team over a whole season. I don’t mind the lucky loser scenario because if there were more teams in this comp then the 4th placed team would be hosting a quarter final anyway and would likely have gone through.
The one team Super Rugby probably didn’t want hosting that 3v4 game were the Brumbies. I’m not surprised at all that this game has been scheduled on Saturday but unfortunately it means we’ll have a ‘friendly’ type situation on our hands if both 1 and 2 win prior to the match kicking off.
@Canes4life said in Super Rugby 2025:
@sparky said in Super Rugby 2025:
@Canes4life I’m not surprised at all that this game has been scheduled on Saturday but unfortunately it means we’ll have a ‘friendly’ type situation on our hands if both 1 and 2 win prior to the match kicking off.
That's not knock out Rugby and it will turn Super Rugby into a laughing stock.
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@mariner4life said in Super Rugby 2025:
So cutting the Rebels has had the effect of
Losing a game a weekend, but at least the ladder looks different.
The Brumbies are going to come 3rd
Every other Aussie team missing the finals.
Oh.
The Reds are in the finals.
@Mr-Fish said in Super Rugby 2025:
@mariner4life said in Super Rugby 2025:
So cutting the Rebels has had the effect of
Losing a game a weekend, but at least the ladder looks different.
The Brumbies are going to come 3rd
Every other Aussie team missing the finals.
Oh.
The Reds are in the finals.
The Reds improved massively, going from 5th last year to 5th this year.
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More amusing than most of these types of clips...
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DKT9ZVSTCCK/?igsh=MXZpamFubHQ3N3g3aw==
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Even if the Brumbies-Canes game isn't an eliminator, there's still plenty to play for.
Winner goes to ChCh with a (somewhat slim) chance of hosting the Final if they win.
Loser goes to Hamilton with no chance of hosting the Final.
I know which option I'd prefer!
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Even if the Brumbies-Canes game isn't an eliminator, there's still plenty to play for.
Winner goes to ChCh with a (somewhat slim) chance of hosting the Final if they win.
Loser goes to Hamilton with no chance of hosting the Final.
I know which option I'd prefer!
@Chris-B said in Super Rugby 2025:
Even if the Brumbies-Canes game isn't an eliminator, there's still plenty to play for.
Winner goes to ChCh with a (somewhat slim) chance of hosting the Final if they win.
Loser goes to Hamilton with no chance of hosting the Final.
I know which option I'd prefer!
They say momentum isn't everything, but winning is definitely more fun
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@Mr-Fish said in Super Rugby 2025:
@mariner4life said in Super Rugby 2025:
So cutting the Rebels has had the effect of
Losing a game a weekend, but at least the ladder looks different.
The Brumbies are going to come 3rd
Every other Aussie team missing the finals.
Oh.
The Reds are in the finals.
The Reds improved massively, going from 5th last year to 5th this year.
@mariner4life said in Super Rugby 2025:
The Reds improved massively, going from 5th last year to 5th this year.
I don't ask for much either - even if the Blues don't improve but just hold their last year's placing I'd be happy.
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@Dan54 said in Super Rugby 2025:
I tell you what if my Canes went out and said it doesn't matter if we win or lose as we still got a life, I would find it very hard to support them again.
Don't worry they won't say it, but they will be thinking it. It’s a very human thought.
@Crazy-Horse said in Super Rugby 2025:
@Dan54 said in Super Rugby 2025:
I tell you what if my Canes went out and said it doesn't matter if we win or lose as we still got a life, I would find it very hard to support them again.
Don't worry they won't say it, but they will be thinking it. It’s a very human thought.
I just don't believe any team would say the result doesn't matter. Winning is so much ahabit thing.
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@Crazy-Horse said in Super Rugby 2025:
@Dan54 said in Super Rugby 2025:
I tell you what if my Canes went out and said it doesn't matter if we win or lose as we still got a life, I would find it very hard to support them again.
Don't worry they won't say it, but they will be thinking it. It’s a very human thought.
I just don't believe any team would say the result doesn't matter. Winning is so much ahabit thing.
@Dan54 said in Super Rugby 2025:
@Crazy-Horse said in Super Rugby 2025:
@Dan54 said in Super Rugby 2025:
I tell you what if my Canes went out and said it doesn't matter if we win or lose as we still got a life, I would find it very hard to support them again.
Don't worry they won't say it, but they will be thinking it. It’s a very human thought.
I just don't believe any team would say the result doesn't matter. Winning is so much ahabit thing.
I actually think the Canes will go over there looking to win it no matter the results beforehand. They’ve won 5 in a row and will want to keep that running as long as they can.
