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  • GrooterG Grooter

    @Canes4life funnily enough Josh Taula was away from the Canes for a few weeks in Japan with the NZ University team, not even sure if the Canes social media ever mentioned that

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    @Grooter said in Super Rugby 2025:

    @Canes4life funnily enough Josh Taula was away from the Canes for a few weeks in Japan with the NZ University team, not even sure if the Canes social media ever mentioned that

    Better for him to be playing I guess.

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      There are probably at least ten permutuions for the semis.

      For example, Blues, Reds and Canes win. Crusaders and Brumbies out. Does that then make Canes top seeds for semi's? If so, they play Blues and Reds go to Hamilton.

      And where would the final be?

      Not much written about such unlikely scenarios?

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      • P pakman

        There are probably at least ten permutuions for the semis.

        For example, Blues, Reds and Canes win. Crusaders and Brumbies out. Does that then make Canes top seeds for semi's? If so, they play Blues and Reds go to Hamilton.

        And where would the final be?

        Not much written about such unlikely scenarios?

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        @pakman yep discussed it above, Canes go top, Chiefs second.

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        • BovidaeB Bovidae

          With the round robin now over, it would be interesting to see how many players from each team never took the field. I am not talking about those with long-term injuries, but the squad players who have spent the season training but never playing.

          For the Chiefs, the only players who have never played a minute are Fiti Sa and Liam Coombes-Fabling, both returning from off-season surgery. All other players had some time on the field (not many for Trask).

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          @Bovidae said in Super Rugby 2025:

          With the round robin now over, it would be interesting to see how many players from each team never took the field. I am not talking about those with long-term injuries, but the squad players who have spent the season training but never playing.

          For the Chiefs, the only players who have never played a minute are Fiti Sa and Liam Coombes-Fabling, both returning from off-season surgery. All other players had some time on the field (not many for Trask).

          Ake Darry Grindlay Spencer Paul for Blues
          Cashmore Poliko Taula Allen for Canes
          Brewis Gardiner for Sanders
          Michaels Sanders and poss Wingham for Landers
          Papuni and Fomai for MP
          Sa and Coombes fabling for Chiefs.
          Hard to fathom the Blues and Canes treatment of some young players.

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            Canes4life
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            #1043

            For anyone still confused on the finals format for this year's competition, below are all the possible playoff scenarios from the quarter finals this week.

            Scenario 1
            Winners: Chiefs, Crusaders and Brumbies
            Semifinals: Chiefs (1) v Hurricanes (4), Crusaders (2) v Brumbies (3)

            Scenario 2
            Winners: Chiefs, Crusaders and Hurricanes
            Semifinals: Chiefs (1) v Brumbies (4), Crusaders (2) v Hurricanes (3)

            Scenario 3
            Winners: Chiefs, Reds and Brumbies
            Semifinals: Chiefs (1) v Reds (4), Brumbies (2) v Crusaders (3)

            Scenario 4
            Winners: Chiefs, Reds and Hurricanes
            Semifinals: Chiefs (1) v Reds (4), Hurricanes (2) v Crusaders (3)

            Scenario 5
            Winners: Blues, Crusaders and Brumbies
            Semifinals: Crusaders (1) v Blues (4), Chiefs (2) v Brumbies (3)

            Scenario 6
            Winners: Blues, Crusaders and Hurricanes
            Semifinals: Crusaders (1) v Blues (4), Chiefs (2) v Hurricanes (3)

            Scenario 7
            Winners: Blues, Reds and Brumbies
            Semifinals: Brumbies (1) v Blues (4), Chiefs (2) v Reds (3)

            Scenario 8
            Winners: Blues, Reds and Hurricanes
            Semifinals: Hurricanes (1) v Blues (4), Chiefs (2) v Reds (3)

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            • A ARHS

              @Bovidae said in Super Rugby 2025:

              With the round robin now over, it would be interesting to see how many players from each team never took the field. I am not talking about those with long-term injuries, but the squad players who have spent the season training but never playing.

              For the Chiefs, the only players who have never played a minute are Fiti Sa and Liam Coombes-Fabling, both returning from off-season surgery. All other players had some time on the field (not many for Trask).

              Ake Darry Grindlay Spencer Paul for Blues
              Cashmore Poliko Taula Allen for Canes
              Brewis Gardiner for Sanders
              Michaels Sanders and poss Wingham for Landers
              Papuni and Fomai for MP
              Sa and Coombes fabling for Chiefs.
              Hard to fathom the Blues and Canes treatment of some young players.

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              #1044

              @ARHS said in Super Rugby 2025:

              Ake Darry Grindlay Spencer Paul for Blues

              Darry & Paul injured obviously

              Ake was injured early on and was expected to be named after the bye midway through the season. He tweaked his shoulder injury that week. We never had another update on him.. I assume the shoulder didn't fully recover?

              Not sure if they intended to play Spencer this year given all the fullbacks in the squad

              They don't seem to rate Grindlay. Another young midfielder, Taele, got plenty of game time

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              • A ARHS

                @Bovidae said in Super Rugby 2025:

                With the round robin now over, it would be interesting to see how many players from each team never took the field. I am not talking about those with long-term injuries, but the squad players who have spent the season training but never playing.

                For the Chiefs, the only players who have never played a minute are Fiti Sa and Liam Coombes-Fabling, both returning from off-season surgery. All other players had some time on the field (not many for Trask).

                Ake Darry Grindlay Spencer Paul for Blues
                Cashmore Poliko Taula Allen for Canes
                Brewis Gardiner for Sanders
                Michaels Sanders and poss Wingham for Landers
                Papuni and Fomai for MP
                Sa and Coombes fabling for Chiefs.
                Hard to fathom the Blues and Canes treatment of some young players.

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                Bovidae
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                #1045

                @ARHS Some of those players have been out with long-term injuries, so not available for selection. But there are definitely some who are fit but haven't been used at all.

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                • DuluthD Duluth

                  @ARHS said in Super Rugby 2025:

                  Ake Darry Grindlay Spencer Paul for Blues

                  Darry & Paul injured obviously

                  Ake was injured early on and was expected to be named after the bye midway through the season. He tweaked his shoulder injury that week. We never had another update on him.. I assume the shoulder didn't fully recover?

                  Not sure if they intended to play Spencer this year given all the fullbacks in the squad

                  They don't seem to rate Grindlay. Another young midfielder, Taele, got plenty of game time

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                  taniwharugby
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                  @Duluth Spencer seems to be spending most of his days playing golf with his dad.

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                  • BovidaeB Bovidae

                    @ARHS Some of those players have been out with long-term injuries, so not available for selection. But there are definitely some who are fit but haven't been used at all.

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                    @Bovidae said in Super Rugby 2025:

                    @ARHS Some of those players have been out with long-term injuries, so not available for selection. But there are definitely some who are fit but haven't been used at all.

                    .....yes several from Canes and Blues. The rest are long term injuries as cause.

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                    • DuluthD Duluth

                      @ARHS said in Super Rugby 2025:

                      Ake Darry Grindlay Spencer Paul for Blues

                      Darry & Paul injured obviously

                      Ake was injured early on and was expected to be named after the bye midway through the season. He tweaked his shoulder injury that week. We never had another update on him.. I assume the shoulder didn't fully recover?

                      Not sure if they intended to play Spencer this year given all the fullbacks in the squad

                      They don't seem to rate Grindlay. Another young midfielder, Taele, got plenty of game time

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                      @Duluth said in Super Rugby 2025:

                      @ARHS said in Super Rugby 2025:

                      Ake Darry Grindlay Spencer Paul for Blues

                      Darry & Paul injured obviously

                      Ake was injured early on and was expected to be named after the bye midway through the season. He tweaked his shoulder injury that week. We never had another update on him.. I assume the shoulder didn't fully recover?

                      Not sure if they intended to play Spencer this year given all the fullbacks in the squad

                      They don't seem to rate Grindlay. Another young midfielder, Taele, got plenty of game time

                      Yeah they obviously see Taele as the man going forward with AJ Lam as Rieko won't be around next season, and Corey Evans can play backup.

                      Was hoping to see more of Grindlay over the last 2 seasons, but yeah, obviously there's something the Blues coaches don't like about him, similar to Corey Evans under Leon MacDonald.

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                      • A ARHS

                        @Bovidae said in Super Rugby 2025:

                        With the round robin now over, it would be interesting to see how many players from each team never took the field. I am not talking about those with long-term injuries, but the squad players who have spent the season training but never playing.

                        For the Chiefs, the only players who have never played a minute are Fiti Sa and Liam Coombes-Fabling, both returning from off-season surgery. All other players had some time on the field (not many for Trask).

                        Ake Darry Grindlay Spencer Paul for Blues
                        Cashmore Poliko Taula Allen for Canes
                        Brewis Gardiner for Sanders
                        Michaels Sanders and poss Wingham for Landers
                        Papuni and Fomai for MP
                        Sa and Coombes fabling for Chiefs.
                        Hard to fathom the Blues and Canes treatment of some young players.

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                        @ARHS I thought I could remember both Papuni and Wingham being named on their respective teams benches this season, is this the case that they were named and just didn't get on

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                        • T Trig

                          @ARHS I thought I could remember both Papuni and Wingham being named on their respective teams benches this season, is this the case that they were named and just didn't get on

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                          Trig
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                          @Trig I've just double checked, there was a game where Tauelangi was a late call up for Moana Pasifika which I had wrongly remembered as being Papuni called up for. And for Wingham he was named on the bench for the Highlanders against Moana but was not used

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                          • D DurryMexted

                            Was he the one that made that rapid break away try against the ABs that was then disallowed? I remember thinking he looked very athletic for a lock

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                            @DurryMexted said in Super Rugby 2025:

                            Was he the one that made that rapid break away try against the ABs that was then disallowed? I remember thinking he looked very athletic for a lock

                            Yes on YouTube (plus another good one against Canada)
                            Search 'Warner Dearns disallowed try JAPAN v NZ rugby'

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                            • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                              For anyone still confused on the finals format for this year's competition, below are all the possible playoff scenarios from the quarter finals this week.

                              Scenario 1
                              Winners: Chiefs, Crusaders and Brumbies
                              Semifinals: Chiefs (1) v Hurricanes (4), Crusaders (2) v Brumbies (3)

                              Scenario 2
                              Winners: Chiefs, Crusaders and Hurricanes
                              Semifinals: Chiefs (1) v Brumbies (4), Crusaders (2) v Hurricanes (3)

                              Scenario 3
                              Winners: Chiefs, Reds and Brumbies
                              Semifinals: Chiefs (1) v Reds (4), Brumbies (2) v Crusaders (3)

                              Scenario 4
                              Winners: Chiefs, Reds and Hurricanes
                              Semifinals: Chiefs (1) v Reds (4), Hurricanes (2) v Crusaders (3)

                              Scenario 5
                              Winners: Blues, Crusaders and Brumbies
                              Semifinals: Crusaders (1) v Blues (4), Chiefs (2) v Brumbies (3)

                              Scenario 6
                              Winners: Blues, Crusaders and Hurricanes
                              Semifinals: Crusaders (1) v Blues (4), Chiefs (2) v Hurricanes (3)

                              Scenario 7
                              Winners: Blues, Reds and Brumbies
                              Semifinals: Brumbies (1) v Blues (4), Chiefs (2) v Reds (3)

                              Scenario 8
                              Winners: Blues, Reds and Hurricanes
                              Semifinals: Hurricanes (1) v Blues (4), Chiefs (2) v Reds (3)

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                              MiketheSnow
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                              #1052

                              @Canes4life said in Super Rugby 2025:

                              For anyone still confused on the finals format for this year's competition, below are all the possible playoff scenarios from the quarter finals this week.

                              Scenario 1
                              Winners: Chiefs, Crusaders and Brumbies
                              Semifinals: Chiefs (1) v Hurricanes (4), Crusaders (2) v Brumbies (3)

                              Scenario 2
                              Winners: Chiefs, Crusaders and Hurricanes
                              Semifinals: Chiefs (1) v Brumbies (4), Crusaders (2) v Hurricanes (3)

                              Scenario 3
                              Winners: Chiefs, Reds and Brumbies
                              Semifinals: Chiefs (1) v Reds (4), Brumbies (2) v Crusaders (3)

                              Scenario 4
                              Winners: Chiefs, Reds and Hurricanes
                              Semifinals: Chiefs (1) v Reds (4), Hurricanes (2) v Crusaders (3)

                              Scenario 5
                              Winners: Blues, Crusaders and Brumbies
                              Semifinals: Crusaders (1) v Blues (4), Chiefs (2) v Brumbies (3)

                              Scenario 6
                              Winners: Blues, Crusaders and Hurricanes
                              Semifinals: Crusaders (1) v Blues (4), Chiefs (2) v Hurricanes (3)

                              Scenario 7
                              Winners: Blues, Reds and Brumbies
                              Semifinals: Brumbies (1) v Blues (4), Chiefs (2) v Reds (3)

                              Scenario 8
                              Winners: Blues, Reds and Hurricanes
                              Semifinals: Hurricanes (1) v Blues (4), Chiefs (2) v Reds (3)

                              Thanks for taking the time to do this

                              But with 8 possible scenarios it just emphasises how fucking retarded the whole thing is

                              English Premiership
                              Top 4 teams involved
                              2 Semis
                              1 Final

                              It's not fucking rocket science

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                              • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                                @Canes4life said in Super Rugby 2025:

                                For anyone still confused on the finals format for this year's competition, below are all the possible playoff scenarios from the quarter finals this week.

                                Scenario 1
                                Winners: Chiefs, Crusaders and Brumbies
                                Semifinals: Chiefs (1) v Hurricanes (4), Crusaders (2) v Brumbies (3)

                                Scenario 2
                                Winners: Chiefs, Crusaders and Hurricanes
                                Semifinals: Chiefs (1) v Brumbies (4), Crusaders (2) v Hurricanes (3)

                                Scenario 3
                                Winners: Chiefs, Reds and Brumbies
                                Semifinals: Chiefs (1) v Reds (4), Brumbies (2) v Crusaders (3)

                                Scenario 4
                                Winners: Chiefs, Reds and Hurricanes
                                Semifinals: Chiefs (1) v Reds (4), Hurricanes (2) v Crusaders (3)

                                Scenario 5
                                Winners: Blues, Crusaders and Brumbies
                                Semifinals: Crusaders (1) v Blues (4), Chiefs (2) v Brumbies (3)

                                Scenario 6
                                Winners: Blues, Crusaders and Hurricanes
                                Semifinals: Crusaders (1) v Blues (4), Chiefs (2) v Hurricanes (3)

                                Scenario 7
                                Winners: Blues, Reds and Brumbies
                                Semifinals: Brumbies (1) v Blues (4), Chiefs (2) v Reds (3)

                                Scenario 8
                                Winners: Blues, Reds and Hurricanes
                                Semifinals: Hurricanes (1) v Blues (4), Chiefs (2) v Reds (3)

                                Thanks for taking the time to do this

                                But with 8 possible scenarios it just emphasises how fucking retarded the whole thing is

                                English Premiership
                                Top 4 teams involved
                                2 Semis
                                1 Final

                                It's not fucking rocket science

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                                Nepia
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                                #1053

                                @MiketheSnow said in Super Rugby 2025:

                                @Canes4life said in Super Rugby 2025:

                                For anyone still confused on the finals format for this year's competition, below are all the possible playoff scenarios from the quarter finals this week.

                                Scenario 1
                                Winners: Chiefs, Crusaders and Brumbies
                                Semifinals: Chiefs (1) v Hurricanes (4), Crusaders (2) v Brumbies (3)

                                Scenario 2
                                Winners: Chiefs, Crusaders and Hurricanes
                                Semifinals: Chiefs (1) v Brumbies (4), Crusaders (2) v Hurricanes (3)

                                Scenario 3
                                Winners: Chiefs, Reds and Brumbies
                                Semifinals: Chiefs (1) v Reds (4), Brumbies (2) v Crusaders (3)

                                Scenario 4
                                Winners: Chiefs, Reds and Hurricanes
                                Semifinals: Chiefs (1) v Reds (4), Hurricanes (2) v Crusaders (3)

                                Scenario 5
                                Winners: Blues, Crusaders and Brumbies
                                Semifinals: Crusaders (1) v Blues (4), Chiefs (2) v Brumbies (3)

                                Scenario 6
                                Winners: Blues, Crusaders and Hurricanes
                                Semifinals: Crusaders (1) v Blues (4), Chiefs (2) v Hurricanes (3)

                                Scenario 7
                                Winners: Blues, Reds and Brumbies
                                Semifinals: Brumbies (1) v Blues (4), Chiefs (2) v Reds (3)

                                Scenario 8
                                Winners: Blues, Reds and Hurricanes
                                Semifinals: Hurricanes (1) v Blues (4), Chiefs (2) v Reds (3)

                                Thanks for taking the time to do this

                                But with 8 possible scenarios it just emphasises how fucking retarded the whole thing is

                                English Premiership
                                Top 4 teams involved
                                2 Semis
                                1 Final

                                It's not fucking rocket science

                                We measure everything against the NRL and they have system where top teams get extra chances so we have to do the same, just shitter.

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                                  Tim
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                                  #1054

                                  If theyr'e going to have a "lucky loser" then that team should drop to the bottom spot.

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                                  • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                                    @Canes4life said in Super Rugby 2025:

                                    For anyone still confused on the finals format for this year's competition, below are all the possible playoff scenarios from the quarter finals this week.

                                    Scenario 1
                                    Winners: Chiefs, Crusaders and Brumbies
                                    Semifinals: Chiefs (1) v Hurricanes (4), Crusaders (2) v Brumbies (3)

                                    Scenario 2
                                    Winners: Chiefs, Crusaders and Hurricanes
                                    Semifinals: Chiefs (1) v Brumbies (4), Crusaders (2) v Hurricanes (3)

                                    Scenario 3
                                    Winners: Chiefs, Reds and Brumbies
                                    Semifinals: Chiefs (1) v Reds (4), Brumbies (2) v Crusaders (3)

                                    Scenario 4
                                    Winners: Chiefs, Reds and Hurricanes
                                    Semifinals: Chiefs (1) v Reds (4), Hurricanes (2) v Crusaders (3)

                                    Scenario 5
                                    Winners: Blues, Crusaders and Brumbies
                                    Semifinals: Crusaders (1) v Blues (4), Chiefs (2) v Brumbies (3)

                                    Scenario 6
                                    Winners: Blues, Crusaders and Hurricanes
                                    Semifinals: Crusaders (1) v Blues (4), Chiefs (2) v Hurricanes (3)

                                    Scenario 7
                                    Winners: Blues, Reds and Brumbies
                                    Semifinals: Brumbies (1) v Blues (4), Chiefs (2) v Reds (3)

                                    Scenario 8
                                    Winners: Blues, Reds and Hurricanes
                                    Semifinals: Hurricanes (1) v Blues (4), Chiefs (2) v Reds (3)

                                    Thanks for taking the time to do this

                                    But with 8 possible scenarios it just emphasises how fucking retarded the whole thing is

                                    English Premiership
                                    Top 4 teams involved
                                    2 Semis
                                    1 Final

                                    It's not fucking rocket science

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                                    Bovidae
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                                    #1055

                                    @MiketheSnow said in Super Rugby 2025:

                                    But with 8 possible scenarios it just emphasises how fucking retarded the whole thing is

                                    It's all about maximising the games played to please the broadcasters. Common sense never applies.

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                                    • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                      @Yeetyaah said in Super Rugby 2025:

                                      IMG_20250603_152402.jpg
                                      Only super team he follows on insta

                                      I’d take him over Tucker any day then.

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                                      @Canes4life said in Super Rugby 2025:

                                      @Yeetyaah said in Super Rugby 2025:

                                      IMG_20250603_152402.jpg
                                      Only super team he follows on insta

                                      I’d take him over Tucker any day then.

                                      It would be nice for the Canes to have a lock over 6ft😉

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                                      • TimT Tim

                                        If theyr'e going to have a "lucky loser" then that team should drop to the bottom spot.

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                                        @Tim said in Super Rugby 2025:

                                        If theyr'e going to have a "lucky loser" then that team should drop to the bottom spot.

                                        Couple of things to consider here.

                                        1/ That effectively means whether you're seeded first, second, third or fourth, the 'lucky loser' reward is the same if you're the only loser in that contingent.

                                        2/ Probably more importantly - and I'm sure they consulted with the teams on this - it can unfairly punish higher-ranked sides who don't lose. If the Chiefs were to lose against the Blues this weekend then suddenly the Crusaders would end up playing the minor premiers in their next match, which probably isn't an ideal outcome for them.

                                        That's not to say this isn't a silly system at all, just that there are a lot of factors that have to be weighed up when introducting the whole lucky loser concept. There's really no good system with a six-team final.

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                                          They would have been better off doing a top 7 and the top seed gets a bye

                                          That way they get their 3 games in playoff week 1 yet no lucky loser bullshit

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