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  • Landers92L Landers92

    Will post in here because there’s no Canes 2026 thread.

    Some inside word on Warner Dearns to carry on from yesterday discussion. I put some feelers out and got told this.

    The Hurricanes have got him but it’s all very under wraps right now. His team in Japan is announcing he is heading off over the next week or 2 and then the Hurricanes will follow suit - It’s a 2026 only sabbatical to my understanding at this stage.

    There you go Canes fans. Big news.

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    #1072

    @Landers92 said in Super Rugby 2025:

    Will post in here because there’s no Canes 2026 thread.

    Some inside word on Warner Dearns to carry on from yesterday discussion. I put some feelers out and got told this.

    The Hurricanes have got him but it’s all very under wraps right now. His team in Japan is announcing he is heading off over the next week or 2 and then the Hurricanes will follow suit - It’s a 2026 only sabbatical to my understanding at this stage.

    There you go Canes fans. Big news.

    Is that loan with opportunity to buy? (Using football parlance)

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    • HigginsH Higgins

      @Canes4life said in Super Rugby 2025:

      Fantastic news. I wonder if that will mean he plays NPC rugby for Wellington, considering he's from here.

      You may like to read this to set the record straight

      https://www.rnz.co.nz/national/programmes/checkpoint/audio/2018716981/rugby-world-cup-a-towering-kiwi-teen-makes-his-mark-in-japan

      https://www.sporty.co.nz/magpies/newsarticle/16479

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      @Higgins said in Super Rugby 2025:

      @Canes4life said in Super Rugby 2025:

      Fantastic news. I wonder if that will mean he plays NPC rugby for Wellington, considering he's from here.

      You may like to read this to set the record straight

      https://www.rnz.co.nz/national/programmes/checkpoint/audio/2018716981/rugby-world-cup-a-towering-kiwi-teen-makes-his-mark-in-japan

      https://www.sporty.co.nz/magpies/newsarticle/16479

      He was Welly born so he was here first. šŸ˜„

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      • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

        @KiwiMurph said in Super Rugby 2025:

        @sparky said in Super Rugby 2025:

        Given the amazing record in recent years in the Super Rugby playoffs, surely the Crusaders should be seen as the most likely team to lift the trophy this year.

        I wasn't aware Razor was coach and Mo'unga was at 10 this month

        I'd argue Sam Whitelock was the most important piece out of the lot when it came to that title run. The experience he brought to the Crusaders I feel is somewhat underrated amongst pundits and the media, Mo'unga definitely gets a lot of the plaudits, but Whitelock was the key ingredient IMO.

        I remember one year, Whitelock came back early from overseas, the Crusaders weren't looking good at the time and then Whitelock managed to steady the ship. As a Canes fan, I always saw the Saders as a much tougher proposition with Whitelock in the side than not as he was such a dominant presence at set piece.

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        @Canes4life We probably had better cover for Sam than Richie. For what it's worth:

        Razor's overall winning percentage at the Crusaders was 83.7%.

        It goes up to 85% for games that Sam played in and falls to 81.1% for games Sam didn't play.

        But it goes up to 87.1% for games Richie played and falls to just 70.8% when Richie didn't play.

        Richie played 93/117 games (81 wins); Sam played 80/117 games (68 wins).

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        • Chris B.C Chris B.

          @Canes4life We probably had better cover for Sam than Richie. For what it's worth:

          Razor's overall winning percentage at the Crusaders was 83.7%.

          It goes up to 85% for games that Sam played in and falls to 81.1% for games Sam didn't play.

          But it goes up to 87.1% for games Richie played and falls to just 70.8% when Richie didn't play.

          Richie played 93/117 games (81 wins); Sam played 80/117 games (68 wins).

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          @Chris-B said in Super Rugby 2025:

          @Canes4life We probably had better cover for Sam than Richie. For what it's worth:

          Razor's overall winning percentage at the Crusaders was 83.7%.

          It goes up to 85% for games that Sam played in and falls to 81.1% for games Sam didn't play.

          But it goes up to 87.1% for games Richie played and falls to just 70.8% when Richie didn't play.

          Richie played 93/117 games (81 wins); Sam played 80/117 games (68 wins).

          That's interesting, I'm not saying Mo'unga wasn't influential because he is the most successful Super 10 the Crusaders have had and it's obvious in those numbers, but I just feel Whitelock isn't mentioned enough when people speak about that 7 year title run. To me, the Saders simply don't win all those titles without him.

          He's the GOAT lock in my view.

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          • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

            @Chris-B said in Super Rugby 2025:

            @Canes4life We probably had better cover for Sam than Richie. For what it's worth:

            Razor's overall winning percentage at the Crusaders was 83.7%.

            It goes up to 85% for games that Sam played in and falls to 81.1% for games Sam didn't play.

            But it goes up to 87.1% for games Richie played and falls to just 70.8% when Richie didn't play.

            Richie played 93/117 games (81 wins); Sam played 80/117 games (68 wins).

            That's interesting, I'm not saying Mo'unga wasn't influential because he is the most successful Super 10 the Crusaders have had and it's obvious in those numbers, but I just feel Whitelock isn't mentioned enough when people speak about that 7 year title run. To me, the Saders simply don't win all those titles without him.

            He's the GOAT lock in my view.

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            #1076

            @Canes4life Judging by what went before and what came after, I'd say all three were quite important! šŸ™‚

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            • Chris B.C Chris B.

              @Canes4life Judging by what went before and what came after, I'd say all three were quite important! šŸ™‚

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              @Chris-B said in Super Rugby 2025:

              @Canes4life Judging by what went before and what came after, I'd say all three were quite important! šŸ™‚

              Fair, I'm just glad the Crusaders don't have those three anymore. Which goes back to an earlier point on this thread, the Crusaders are definitely not the unbeatable force at home that they once were. In saying that, they'll probably figure out a way to win it this year again.

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              • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                @Chris-B said in Super Rugby 2025:

                @Canes4life Judging by what went before and what came after, I'd say all three were quite important! šŸ™‚

                Fair, I'm just glad the Crusaders don't have those three anymore. Which goes back to an earlier point on this thread, the Crusaders are definitely not the unbeatable force at home that they once were. In saying that, they'll probably figure out a way to win it this year again.

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                #1078

                @Canes4life Well, since you're a Hurricanes fan, I'll let you in on our secret equation, which you can pass to your team.

                We plan to beat the Reds tomorrow night.

                The Chiefs probably only have one loss in them in the play-offs (if that) so let's not waste it while they've got a life in play.

                It would then be quite helpful if you guys could lose in the cold hellhole of Canberra.

                The Brumbies can come to ChCh and you guys can go to Hamilton and avenge yourselves for last year.

                Crusaders-Canes final in Christchurch - bring on the fog again! šŸ™‚

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                • Chris B.C Chris B.

                  @Canes4life Well, since you're a Hurricanes fan, I'll let you in on our secret equation, which you can pass to your team.

                  We plan to beat the Reds tomorrow night.

                  The Chiefs probably only have one loss in them in the play-offs (if that) so let's not waste it while they've got a life in play.

                  It would then be quite helpful if you guys could lose in the cold hellhole of Canberra.

                  The Brumbies can come to ChCh and you guys can go to Hamilton and avenge yourselves for last year.

                  Crusaders-Canes final in Christchurch - bring on the fog again! šŸ™‚

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                  #1079

                  @Chris-B said in Super Rugby 2025:

                  @Canes4life Well, since you're a Hurricanes fan, I'll let you in on our secret equation, which you can pass to your team.

                  We plan to beat the Reds tomorrow night.

                  The Chiefs probably only have one loss in them in the play-offs (if that) so let's not waste it while they've got a life in play.

                  It would then be quite helpful if you guys could lose in the cold hellhole of Canberra.

                  The Brumbies can come to ChCh and you guys can go to Hamilton and avenge yourselves for last year.

                  Crusaders-Canes final in Christchurch - bring on the fog again! šŸ™‚

                  Wouldn't mind that, just without the fog this time aye. šŸ™‚

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                  • Chris B.C Chris B.

                    @Canes4life Well, since you're a Hurricanes fan, I'll let you in on our secret equation, which you can pass to your team.

                    We plan to beat the Reds tomorrow night.

                    The Chiefs probably only have one loss in them in the play-offs (if that) so let's not waste it while they've got a life in play.

                    It would then be quite helpful if you guys could lose in the cold hellhole of Canberra.

                    The Brumbies can come to ChCh and you guys can go to Hamilton and avenge yourselves for last year.

                    Crusaders-Canes final in Christchurch - bring on the fog again! šŸ™‚

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                    #1080

                    @Chris-B said in Super Rugby 2025:

                    Crusaders-Canes final in Christchurch - bring on the fog again! šŸ™‚

                    The fog was great - it highlighted all the most beautiful spots of Christchurch!

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                    • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                      @Chris-B said in Super Rugby 2025:

                      Crusaders-Canes final in Christchurch - bring on the fog again! šŸ™‚

                      The fog was great - it highlighted all the most beautiful spots of Christchurch!

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                      #1081

                      @nostrildamus said in Super Rugby 2025:

                      @Chris-B said in Super Rugby 2025:

                      Crusaders-Canes final in Christchurch - bring on the fog again! šŸ™‚

                      The fog was great - it highlighted all the most beautiful spots of Christchurch!

                      And hid all the feral North Island supporters
                      Who came down dreaming of a win.

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                      • ChrisC Chris

                        @nostrildamus said in Super Rugby 2025:

                        @Chris-B said in Super Rugby 2025:

                        Crusaders-Canes final in Christchurch - bring on the fog again! šŸ™‚

                        The fog was great - it highlighted all the most beautiful spots of Christchurch!

                        And hid all the feral North Island supporters
                        Who came down dreaming of a win.

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                        @Chris said in Super Rugby 2025:

                        @nostrildamus said in Super Rugby 2025:

                        @Chris-B said in Super Rugby 2025:

                        Crusaders-Canes final in !

                        And hid all the feral North Island supporters
                        Who came down dreaming of a win.

                        Let the banter begin!.
                        Nb don't let geophysical reality stop you but in distance Wellington is closer to Christchurch than to Auckland...

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                        • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                          @Chris said in Super Rugby 2025:

                          @nostrildamus said in Super Rugby 2025:

                          @Chris-B said in Super Rugby 2025:

                          Crusaders-Canes final in !

                          And hid all the feral North Island supporters
                          Who came down dreaming of a win.

                          Let the banter begin!.
                          Nb don't let geophysical reality stop you but in distance Wellington is closer to Christchurch than to Auckland...

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                          @nostrildamus said in Super Rugby 2025:

                          @Chris said in Super Rugby 2025:

                          @nostrildamus said in Super Rugby 2025:

                          @Chris-B said in Super Rugby 2025:

                          Crusaders-Canes final in !

                          And hid all the feral North Island supporters
                          Who came down dreaming of a win.

                          Let the banter begin!.
                          Nb don't let geophysical reality stop you but in distance Wellington is closer to Christchurch than to Auckland...

                          Maybe I was not talking about you Auckland people .

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                          • ChrisC Chris

                            @nostrildamus said in Super Rugby 2025:

                            @Chris-B said in Super Rugby 2025:

                            Crusaders-Canes final in Christchurch - bring on the fog again! šŸ™‚

                            The fog was great - it highlighted all the most beautiful spots of Christchurch!

                            And hid all the feral North Island supporters
                            Who came down dreaming of a win.

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                            @Chris said in Super Rugby 2025:

                            @nostrildamus said in Super Rugby 2025:

                            @Chris-B said in Super Rugby 2025:

                            Crusaders-Canes final in Christchurch - bring on the fog again! šŸ™‚

                            The fog was great - it highlighted all the most beautiful spots of Christchurch!

                            And hid all the feral North Island supporters
                            Who came down dreaming of a win.

                            We did win, you just couldn’t see it.

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                            • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                              @Chris said in Super Rugby 2025:

                              @nostrildamus said in Super Rugby 2025:

                              @Chris-B said in Super Rugby 2025:

                              Crusaders-Canes final in Christchurch - bring on the fog again! šŸ™‚

                              The fog was great - it highlighted all the most beautiful spots of Christchurch!

                              And hid all the feral North Island supporters
                              Who came down dreaming of a win.

                              We did win, you just couldn’t see it.

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                              Chris
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                              @Canes4life said in Super Rugby 2025:

                              @Chris said in Super Rugby 2025:

                              @nostrildamus said in Super Rugby 2025:

                              @Chris-B said in Super Rugby 2025:

                              Crusaders-Canes final in Christchurch - bring on the fog again! šŸ™‚

                              The fog was great - it highlighted all the most beautiful spots of Christchurch!

                              And hid all the feral North Island supporters
                              Who came down dreaming of a win.

                              We did win, you just couldn’t see it.

                              I couldn’t see fuck all to be honest

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                              • ChrisC Chris

                                @Canes4life said in Super Rugby 2025:

                                @Chris said in Super Rugby 2025:

                                @nostrildamus said in Super Rugby 2025:

                                @Chris-B said in Super Rugby 2025:

                                Crusaders-Canes final in Christchurch - bring on the fog again! šŸ™‚

                                The fog was great - it highlighted all the most beautiful spots of Christchurch!

                                And hid all the feral North Island supporters
                                Who came down dreaming of a win.

                                We did win, you just couldn’t see it.

                                I couldn’t see fuck all to be honest

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                                canefan
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                                #1086

                                @Chris said in Super Rugby 2025:

                                @Canes4life said in Super Rugby 2025:

                                @Chris said in Super Rugby 2025:

                                @nostrildamus said in Super Rugby 2025:

                                @Chris-B said in Super Rugby 2025:

                                Crusaders-Canes final in Christchurch - bring on the fog again! šŸ™‚

                                The fog was great - it highlighted all the most beautiful spots of Christchurch!

                                And hid all the feral North Island supporters
                                Who came down dreaming of a win.

                                We did win, you just couldn’t see it.

                                I couldn’t see fuck all to be honest

                                CF Sr went down for the final. Left well before the end and went to the pub because he couldn't see shit. The view was just as bad there. A farcical game

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                                • canefanC canefan

                                  @Chris said in Super Rugby 2025:

                                  @Canes4life said in Super Rugby 2025:

                                  @Chris said in Super Rugby 2025:

                                  @nostrildamus said in Super Rugby 2025:

                                  @Chris-B said in Super Rugby 2025:

                                  Crusaders-Canes final in Christchurch - bring on the fog again! šŸ™‚

                                  The fog was great - it highlighted all the most beautiful spots of Christchurch!

                                  And hid all the feral North Island supporters
                                  Who came down dreaming of a win.

                                  We did win, you just couldn’t see it.

                                  I couldn’t see fuck all to be honest

                                  CF Sr went down for the final. Left well before the end and went to the pub because he couldn't see shit. The view was just as bad there. A farcical game

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                                  #1087

                                  @canefan said in Super Rugby 2025:

                                  @Chris said in Super Rugby 2025:

                                  @Canes4life said in Super Rugby 2025:

                                  @Chris said in Super Rugby 2025:

                                  @nostrildamus said in Super Rugby 2025:

                                  @Chris-B said in Super Rugby 2025:

                                  Crusaders-Canes final in Christchurch - bring on the fog again! šŸ™‚

                                  The fog was great - it highlighted all the most beautiful spots of Christchurch!

                                  And hid all the feral North Island supporters
                                  Who came down dreaming of a win.

                                  We did win, you just couldn’t see it.

                                  I couldn’t see fuck all to be honest

                                  CF Sr went down for the final. Left well before the end and went to the pub because he couldn't see shit. The view was just as bad there. A farcical game

                                  Dissapointing for all the fans it should not have been played in those conditions.

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                                  • ChrisC Chris

                                    @nostrildamus said in Super Rugby 2025:

                                    @Chris said in Super Rugby 2025:

                                    @nostrildamus said in Super Rugby 2025:

                                    @Chris-B said in Super Rugby 2025:

                                    Crusaders-Canes final in !

                                    And hid all the feral North Island supporters
                                    Who came down dreaming of a win.

                                    Let the banter begin!.
                                    Nb don't let geophysical reality stop you but in distance Wellington is closer to Christchurch than to Auckland...

                                    Maybe I was not talking about you Auckland people .

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                                    @Chris said in Super Rugby 2025:

                                    #1 And hid all the feral North Island supporters
                                    ...
                                    #2 Maybe I was not talking about you Auckland people .

                                    [adds 1 and 2]... thanks for suggesting we're not feral at all!

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                                      So what have I missed, Blues still the top of the heap?

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                                      • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                                        @Chris said in Super Rugby 2025:

                                        #1 And hid all the feral North Island supporters
                                        ...
                                        #2 Maybe I was not talking about you Auckland people .

                                        [adds 1 and 2]... thanks for suggesting we're not feral at all!

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                                        @nostrildamus said in Super Rugby 2025:

                                        @Chris said in Super Rugby 2025:

                                        #1 And hid all the feral North Island supporters
                                        ...
                                        #2 Maybe I was not talking about you Auckland people .

                                        [adds 1 and 2]... thanks for suggesting we're not feral at all!

                                        You added up incorrectly šŸ˜Ž

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                                        • KirwanK Kirwan

                                          So what have I missed, Blues still the top of the heap?

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                                          @Kirwan said in Super Rugby 2025:

                                          So what have I missed, Blues still the top of the heap?

                                          Always.

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