NZR CEO Resignation & Replacement
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My lasting impression is that he was a guy who never seemed quite in control, he never seemed to quite get buy-in for his ideas and the problems that were forced upon him never seemed to result in a unianimous conclusion.
Sure there were some real tricky pieces of work there but he never seemed to be able to get everyone moving in the same direction, any decision seemed marred by a lot of in-fighting.
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Let's face it, we just await the nest appointment, so we can say how hopeless he is and we all could/would do better. Never saw any any positive posts about Tew before Robertson came along.
It's kind of natural on forums, same with RA, when the last CEO was there, he was hopeless etc, and then when Phil Waugh came into job, he's seen as a NSW lapdog etc.
I think we all have to remember the CEOs really only do boards' bidding, and don't actually have a huge inflence.@Dan54 said in NZR CEO Mark Robinson Resigns:
Let's face it, we just await the nest appointment, so we can say how hopeless he is and we all could/would do better. Never saw any any positive posts about Tew before Robertson came along.
It's kind of natural on forums, same with RA, when the last CEO was there, he was hopeless etc, and then when Phil Waugh came into job, he's seen as a NSW lapdog etc.
I think we all have to remember the CEOs really only do boards' bidding, and don't actually have a huge inflence.I think the main issue for the lack of enthuasium about Tew was that he was replacing Jock Hobbs, who was excellent. It's always hard to replace someone who's been good in their role and live up to those expectations.
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Let's face it, we just await the nest appointment, so we can say how hopeless he is and we all could/would do better. Never saw any any positive posts about Tew before Robertson came along.
It's kind of natural on forums, same with RA, when the last CEO was there, he was hopeless etc, and then when Phil Waugh came into job, he's seen as a NSW lapdog etc.
I think we all have to remember the CEOs really only do boards' bidding, and don't actually have a huge inflence.@Dan54 said in NZR CEO Mark Robinson Resigns:
Let's face it, we just await the nest appointment, so we can say how hopeless he is and we all could/would do better. Never saw any any positive posts about Tew before Robertson came along.
It's kind of natural on forums, same with RA, when the last CEO was there, he was hopeless etc, and then when Phil Waugh came into job, he's seen as a NSW lapdog etc.
I think we all have to remember the CEOs really only do boards' bidding, and don't actually have a huge inflence.It's human nature. People think they can do someone else's job better. You see it in all walks of life.
I am the same. It's amazing how good I would be.
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TBH, I really don't think we can get an accurate gauge of how good he is compared with say Tew, because Tew didn't go through Covid, the Saffas throwing their toys out of the cot (anyone who blames anyone other than the Saffas for going norf is an idiot), Tew was in charge of the ABs when the Foster decision was made (so he may not have sacked him either).
I don't think Robinson did a great job, but I don't know if anyone could at that time.
I think I'd be an ok CEO but I'd never take the job (one of my minions is now CEO of a former place I worked, my genius is identifying talent
) I much rather just sitting under the CEO, out of the politics (I have little patience for owners and board members who don't know their business), and (mostly) getting the job done. -
@Dan54 said in NZR CEO Mark Robinson Resigns:
Let's face it, we just await the nest appointment, so we can say how hopeless he is and we all could/would do better. Never saw any any positive posts about Tew before Robertson came along.
It's kind of natural on forums, same with RA, when the last CEO was there, he was hopeless etc, and then when Phil Waugh came into job, he's seen as a NSW lapdog etc.
I think we all have to remember the CEOs really only do boards' bidding, and don't actually have a huge inflence.I think the main issue for the lack of enthuasium about Tew was that he was replacing Jock Hobbs, who was excellent. It's always hard to replace someone who's been good in their role and live up to those expectations.
@Windows97 said in NZR CEO Mark Robinson Resigns:
@Dan54 said in NZR CEO Mark Robinson Resigns:
Let's face it, we just await the nest appointment, so we can say how hopeless he is and we all could/would do better. Never saw any any positive posts about Tew before Robertson came along.
It's kind of natural on forums, same with RA, when the last CEO was there, he was hopeless etc, and then when Phil Waugh came into job, he's seen as a NSW lapdog etc.
I think we all have to remember the CEOs really only do boards' bidding, and don't actually have a huge inflence.I think the main issue for the lack of enthuasium about Tew was that he was replacing Jock Hobbs, who was excellent. It's always hard to replace someone who's been good in their role and live up to those expectations.
Tew never replaced Hobbs. Hobbs was chairman, Tew was CEO and had the role originally while Hobbs was chairman (I think)
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Frankly, don't think he was as bad as made put, but I think we can do better.
Cast the net world wide I reckon.
@booboo said in NZR CEO Mark Robinson Resigns:
Frankly, don't think he was as bad as made put, but I think we can do better.
Cast the net world wide I reckon.
I don't want net cast worldwide. I admit to being really uncomfortable with Chairman (David Kirk) living in Aus. I really prefer someone who has feel for the game in NZ. I don't know what qualifications any of the present board have , but genuinely think we need someone with knowledge of our game, and our rugby boards etc.
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Just out of interest what CEOs have come through Covid etc in rugby and still around. I know we think we supposedly in real bad place, but have a look around world, RA has been on bones of arse and loans etc from WR to keep them going helped. England have had record financial looses (while CEO got huge raise), SARFU is apparently technically bankrupt (only technically) after losses in 2024, Wale is a basket case it seems. Scotland have a new CEO , and just recorded a loss for 2024.
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I don't think it's the straight financials that hang over Robinson, there was the whole "shall we get rid of Foster or not" saga which was handeled terribly and make somewhat a mockery of Razor's appointment (in terms of the process - only 1 person meets the criteria apparently so the job goes to him). There was the silverlake deal that struggled to get argreement to the point where the players union had to step in to finalize it and then the NZRU report and following will we or wont we do it fall-out.
I appreciate the role can be like herding geese but at times it felt like the geese were running the show, not the CEO...
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Just out of interest what CEOs have come through Covid etc in rugby and still around. I know we think we supposedly in real bad place, but have a look around world, RA has been on bones of arse and loans etc from WR to keep them going helped. England have had record financial looses (while CEO got huge raise), SARFU is apparently technically bankrupt (only technically) after losses in 2024, Wale is a basket case it seems. Scotland have a new CEO , and just recorded a loss for 2024.
@Dan54 said in NZR CEO Mark Robinson Resigns:
Just out of interest what CEOs have come through Covid etc in rugby and still around. I know we think we supposedly in real bad place, but have a look around world, RA has been on bones of arse and loans etc from WR to keep them going helped. England have had record financial looses (while CEO got huge raise), SARFU is apparently technically bankrupt (only technically) after losses in 2024, Wale is a basket case it seems. Scotland have a new CEO , and just recorded a loss for 2024.
because rugby boards and clubs spend like they are a much bigger sport than they really are.
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@Dan54 said in NZR CEO Mark Robinson Resigns:
Just out of interest what CEOs have come through Covid etc in rugby and still around. I know we think we supposedly in real bad place, but have a look around world, RA has been on bones of arse and loans etc from WR to keep them going helped. England have had record financial looses (while CEO got huge raise), SARFU is apparently technically bankrupt (only technically) after losses in 2024, Wale is a basket case it seems. Scotland have a new CEO , and just recorded a loss for 2024.
because rugby boards and clubs spend like they are a much bigger sport than they really are.
@mariner4life said in NZR CEO Mark Robinson Resigns:
because rugby boards and clubs spend like they are a much bigger sport than they really are.
Hardly just rugby. European football is way out of control -- they are making serious money and yet can manage to go broke on it.
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If the extract about his nearly sacking from Fozzies book is right then it does not paint Mark in a good light
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I think I understand... but if anyone can translate, appreciated. What's this about a well known figure of influence?
@Bones said in NZR CEO Mark Robinson Resigns:
I think I understand... but if anyone can translate, appreciated. What's this about a well known figure of influence?
WTF. All George did was get lucky. The Warriors were their usual shit self under him early on (with some fucked up recruiting going on), then his coach resigned, and then the one he wanted turned him down, and then he lucked out with Webster and the hype train.
I'm not saying he has nothing to do with the current Warriors (qualified) success, but he hasn't been the driver of it.
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I love how much you hate the warriors
@mariner4life said in NZR CEO Mark Robinson Resigns:
I love how much you hate the warriors
I've been hate watching them for 30 years, but this is our year.
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It will never be our year. We will never win the comp.
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It will never be our year. We will never win the comp.
@mariner4life said in NZR CEO Mark Robinson Resigns:
It will never be our year. We will never win the comp.
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It will never be our year. We will never win the comp.
@mariner4life said in NZR CEO Mark Robinson Resigns:
It will never be our year. We will never win the comp.
Hope is the killer
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If the extract about his nearly sacking from Fozzies book is right then it does not paint Mark in a good light
@mariner4life said in NZR CEO Mark Robinson Resigns:
If the extract about his nearly sacking from Fozzies book is right then it does not paint Mark in a good light
I'm finding it difficult to think of anything that does. His idea to invite an Aussie team or two into a NZ competition, the Foster-Razor debacle, private equity..?
