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    @African-Monkey said in Blues 2025:

    A few random thoughts came to my mind for no real reason.

    Is Sam Nock the most capped Blues halfback of all time?

    I'm still really dispapointed that he never kicked on. Had all the attributes to be dynamite - but just didn't show it on the park. Still someone I like to watch (albeit in a frustrated way at times)

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    @nzzp said in Blues 2025:

    @African-Monkey said in Blues 2025:

    A few random thoughts came to my mind for no real reason.

    Is Sam Nock the most capped Blues halfback of all time?

    I'm still really dispapointed that he never kicked on. Had all the attributes to be dynamite - but just didn't show it on the park. Still someone I like to watch (albeit in a frustrated way at times)

    Yeah as a few of us pointed out, he had the tools, but lacked a bit of confidence to go and fight for possession and was usually in 2 minds as to what to do at times. Was very standoffish with his play in the first few years.

    I tell you what, if you mixed Sam Nock's skillet with Fin Christie's aggression and fight, we'd have a hell of a halfback on our hands.

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      @nzzp said in Blues 2025:

      @African-Monkey said in Blues 2025:

      A few random thoughts came to my mind for no real reason.

      Is Sam Nock the most capped Blues halfback of all time?

      I'm still really dispapointed that he never kicked on. Had all the attributes to be dynamite - but just didn't show it on the park. Still someone I like to watch (albeit in a frustrated way at times)

      Yeah as a few of us pointed out, he had the tools, but lacked a bit of confidence to go and fight for possession and was usually in 2 minds as to what to do at times. Was very standoffish with his play in the first few years.

      I tell you what, if you mixed Sam Nock's skillet with Fin Christie's aggression and fight, we'd have a hell of a halfback on our hands.

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      @African-Monkey said in Blues 2025:

      I tell you what, if you mixed Sam Nock's skillet with Funaki's aggression and fight, we'd have a hell of a halfback on our hands.

      Fixed.

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          I heard another wing signing as well by the Blues. Might just need to double check it.

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            @Daffy-Jaffy said in Blues 2025:

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            The cloning program is a bit early isn't it? Tele'a hasn't left yet.

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              I heard another wing signing as well by the Blues. Might just need to double check it.

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              @Nogusta said in Blues 2025:

              another wing signing

              My guess (and hope) would be Tito-Harris. He's been out injured from the sevens all season so may be ready for a return to XV's.

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                @Nogusta said in Blues 2025:

                another wing signing

                My guess (and hope) would be Tito-Harris. He's been out injured from the sevens all season so may be ready for a return to XV's.

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                @Daffy-Jaffy well my mail was George Bridge but I've just seen an article about him likely linking up with the Force so maybe not.

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                  #737

                  Why can't we sign Ollie Mathis? The most exciting talent in NZ rugby since Ardie Savea. It's criminal that he wasn't signed by somebody last year. Another example of talent being ignored for experience by conservative NZ Super coaches.

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                    Wing is a spot I'd like to see us focus on new young talent.

                    Caleb is around as the experienced wing - there's room for a young win to fight for the 14 jersey/a spot in the 23.

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                      @Daffy-Jaffy well my mail was George Bridge but I've just seen an article about him likely linking up with the Force so maybe not.

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                      @Nogusta said in Blues 2025:

                      @Daffy-Jaffy well my mail was George Bridge but I've just seen an article about him likely linking up with the Force so maybe not.

                      Now that would be awkward if he came here.....

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                        @Nogusta said in Blues 2025:

                        @Daffy-Jaffy well my mail was George Bridge but I've just seen an article about him likely linking up with the Force so maybe not.

                        Now that would be awkward if he came here.....

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                        @African-Monkey said in Blues 2025:

                        @Nogusta said in Blues 2025:

                        @Daffy-Jaffy well my mail was George Bridge but I've just seen an article about him likely linking up with the Force so maybe not.

                        Now that would be awkward if he came here.....

                        How good! Stuff dreams are made of.

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                          @African-Monkey said in Blues 2025:

                          @Nogusta said in Blues 2025:

                          @Daffy-Jaffy well my mail was George Bridge but I've just seen an article about him likely linking up with the Force so maybe not.

                          Now that would be awkward if he came here.....

                          How good! Stuff dreams are made of.

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                          @Bones said in Blues 2025:

                          @African-Monkey said in Blues 2025:

                          @Nogusta said in Blues 2025:

                          @Daffy-Jaffy well my mail was George Bridge but I've just seen an article about him likely linking up with the Force so maybe not.

                          Now that would be awkward if he came here.....

                          How good! Stuff dreams are made of.

                          Trying to think, it would be like Akira Ioane signing for the Crusaders or something.

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                            @Bones said in Blues 2025:

                            @African-Monkey said in Blues 2025:

                            @Nogusta said in Blues 2025:

                            @Daffy-Jaffy well my mail was George Bridge but I've just seen an article about him likely linking up with the Force so maybe not.

                            Now that would be awkward if he came here.....

                            How good! Stuff dreams are made of.

                            Trying to think, it would be like Akira Ioane signing for the Crusaders or something.

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                            @African-Monkey said in Blues 2025:

                            @Bones said in Blues 2025:

                            @African-Monkey said in Blues 2025:

                            @Nogusta said in Blues 2025:

                            @Daffy-Jaffy well my mail was George Bridge but I've just seen an article about him likely linking up with the Force so maybe not.

                            Now that would be awkward if he came here.....

                            How good! Stuff dreams are made of.

                            Trying to think, it would be like Akira Ioane signing for the Crusaders or something.

                            Or Ali Williams.

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                              Great effort from the boys last night, and congrats to Rieko on breaking the try scoring record which had stood for 18 years.

                              Some great servants are departing. All the best to them, they all did the jersey proud.

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                                brodean
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                                Yeah it was a good effort and we basically lost a bit of momentum when the two hookers were on. Then gained a prop but lost Hoskins

                                With Hoskins off there wasn't anyone left to convert those final phases.

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                                  Given the injuries this season, some players in decline or way off form, I think Vern Cotter's done a bloody good job this year getting the Blues to be close losing Semi Finalists.

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                                    Given the injuries this season, some players in decline or way off form, I think Vern Cotter's done a bloody good job this year getting the Blues to be close losing Semi Finalists.

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                                    @sparky

                                    I agree to a degree. I didn't like the game plan last night and I don't like that he favours Christie over Funaki.

                                    The aimless kicking (aka contestables) sh*ts me to no end.

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                                      So I'm wondering how we will go next year. We need to replace these guys:

                                      Ioane, Plummer, Tele'a, Riccitelli, Suafoa, and Choat.

                                      It's a second year in a row we will need to replace key players.

                                      Ioane, Plummer, Tele'a, Riccitelli have been star players for us and Suafoa/Choat have been key squad members racking up plenty of game time with a lot of starts and experience. We will need to spend some dollars to get players of similar quality.

                                      I'm not a 100% sure who is available but will throw some names out there who are or might be off contract.

                                      Ioane/Plummer - Obviously Rieko and Plummer are massive losses. That said I thought Lam was our best centre last year so he's an option there. At the moment Lam would be the best 12 and 13 option with Ioane gone. Maybe a Taele and Lam partnership.

                                      With Plummer and Ioane going they need two midfield options plus someone who can cover 10. It's worth keeping a hold of Grindlay if we can and developing him.

                                      Another option might be to bring Sullivan in as a midfield option at 12 if Perofeta and Forbes are still available.

                                      In terms of squad replacements for those two potentially Kaleb Trask, Quinn Tupaea, Rameka Poihipi, Gideon Wrampling, Levi Aumua, and Thomas Umaga Jensen.

                                      Tele'a - Off the top of my head Tito-Harris and Mathis could be options. Tele'a was key to our success and he didn't have the same impact this year which I think was telling. Would have been good if we kept anyone of Kade Banks, Caleb Tangitau or Kneepkins.

                                      Potentially Etene Nanai Seturo, Kade Banks or Dan Sinkinson, Oli Mathis, Xavier Tito Harris.

                                      Riccitelli - potentially the hardest to replace. A key team member of our success that has helped us develop a rock solid set piece and winning the collisions. Very high workrate. Potentials - Bradley Slater, Ioane Moananu, George Bell, Sione Vikena, Ray Tuputupu and Vernon Bason. Ideally it would be someone with a lot of experience like Slater or someone with a lot of potential like Bell or Tuputupu.

                                      Suafoa, and Choat - Sadly I can't see Cameron Suafoa making a come back even in remission. Cameron Suafoa obviously covered 6, 8 and lock. He was a player of huge potential and seemed like a great person too.

                                      Choat has been a reliable workhorse and servant for the Blues.

                                      He was a key component of our more success in recent years being a good professional example for younger players.

                                      Potential replacements - Rob Rush, Lotu Inisi, Semisi Tupou Ta'eiloa, Sione Havili Talitui, Zach Gallagher, James Thompson, Malachi Wrampling-Alec, Jimmy Tupou, Mitchell Dunshea, Oliver Haig, Xavier Saifoloi, and Ethan Blackadder

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                                        So I'm wondering how we will go next year. We need to replace these guys:

                                        Ioane, Plummer, Tele'a, Riccitelli, Suafoa, and Choat.

                                        It's a second year in a row we will need to replace key players.

                                        Ioane, Plummer, Tele'a, Riccitelli have been star players for us and Suafoa/Choat have been key squad members racking up plenty of game time with a lot of starts and experience. We will need to spend some dollars to get players of similar quality.

                                        I'm not a 100% sure who is available but will throw some names out there who are or might be off contract.

                                        Ioane/Plummer - Obviously Rieko and Plummer are massive losses. That said I thought Lam was our best centre last year so he's an option there. At the moment Lam would be the best 12 and 13 option with Ioane gone. Maybe a Taele and Lam partnership.

                                        With Plummer and Ioane going they need two midfield options plus someone who can cover 10. It's worth keeping a hold of Grindlay if we can and developing him.

                                        Another option might be to bring Sullivan in as a midfield option at 12 if Perofeta and Forbes are still available.

                                        In terms of squad replacements for those two potentially Kaleb Trask, Quinn Tupaea, Rameka Poihipi, Gideon Wrampling, Levi Aumua, and Thomas Umaga Jensen.

                                        Tele'a - Off the top of my head Tito-Harris and Mathis could be options. Tele'a was key to our success and he didn't have the same impact this year which I think was telling. Would have been good if we kept anyone of Kade Banks, Caleb Tangitau or Kneepkins.

                                        Potentially Etene Nanai Seturo, Kade Banks or Dan Sinkinson, Oli Mathis, Xavier Tito Harris.

                                        Riccitelli - potentially the hardest to replace. A key team member of our success that has helped us develop a rock solid set piece and winning the collisions. Very high workrate. Potentials - Bradley Slater, Ioane Moananu, George Bell, Sione Vikena, Ray Tuputupu and Vernon Bason. Ideally it would be someone with a lot of experience like Slater or someone with a lot of potential like Bell or Tuputupu.

                                        Suafoa, and Choat - Sadly I can't see Cameron Suafoa making a come back even in remission. Cameron Suafoa obviously covered 6, 8 and lock. He was a player of huge potential and seemed like a great person too.

                                        Choat has been a reliable workhorse and servant for the Blues.

                                        He was a key component of our more success in recent years being a good professional example for younger players.

                                        Potential replacements - Rob Rush, Lotu Inisi, Semisi Tupou Ta'eiloa, Sione Havili Talitui, Zach Gallagher, James Thompson, Malachi Wrampling-Alec, Jimmy Tupou, Mitchell Dunshea, Oliver Haig, Xavier Saifoloi, and Ethan Blackadder

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                                        @brodean said in Blues 2025:

                                        So I'm wondering how we will go next year. We need to replace these guys:

                                        Ioane, Plummer, Tele'a, Riccitelli, Suafoa, and Choat.

                                        It's a second year in a row we will need to replace key players.

                                        Ioane, Plummer, Tele'a, Riccitelli have been star players for us and Suafoa/Choat have been key squad members racking up plenty of game time with a lot of starts and experience. We will need to spend some dollars to get players of similar quality.

                                        I'm not a 100% sure who is available but will throw some names out there who are or might be off contract.

                                        Ioane/Plummer - Obviously Rieko and Plummer are massive losses. That said I thought Lam was our best centre last year so he's an option there. At the moment Lam would be the best 12 and 13 option with Ioane gone. Maybe a Taele and Lam partnership.

                                        With Plummer and Ioane going they need two midfield options plus someone who can cover 10. It's worth keeping a hold of Grindlay if we can and developing him.

                                        Another option might be to bring Sullivan in as a midfield option at 12 if Perofeta and Forbes are still available.

                                        In terms of squad replacements for those two potentially Kaleb Trask, Quinn Tupaea, Rameka Poihipi, Gideon Wrampling, Levi Aumua, and Thomas Umaga Jensen.

                                        Tele'a - Off the top of my head Tito-Harris and Mathis could be options. Tele'a was key to our success and he didn't have the same impact this year which I think was telling. Would have been good if we kept anyone of Kade Banks, Caleb Tangitau or Kneepkins.

                                        Potentially Etene Nanai Seturo, Kade Banks or Dan Sinkinson, Oli Mathis, Xavier Tito Harris.

                                        Riccitelli - potentially the hardest to replace. A key team member of our success that has helped us develop a rock solid set piece and winning the collisions. Very high workrate. Potentials - Bradley Slater, Ioane Moananu, George Bell, Sione Vikena, Ray Tuputupu and Vernon Bason. Ideally it would be someone with a lot of experience like Slater or someone with a lot of potential like Bell or Tuputupu.

                                        Suafoa, and Choat - Sadly I can't see Cameron Suafoa making a come back even in remission. Cameron Suafoa obviously covered 6, 8 and lock. He was a player of huge potential and seemed like a great person too.

                                        Choat has been a reliable workhorse and servant for the Blues.

                                        He was a key component of our more success in recent years being a good professional example for younger players.

                                        Potential replacements - Rob Rush, Lotu Inisi, Semisi Tupou Ta'eiloa, Sione Havili Talitui, Zach Gallagher, James Thompson, Malachi Wrampling-Alec, Jimmy Tupou, Mitchell Dunshea, Oliver Haig, Xavier Saifoloi, and Ethan Blackadder

                                        heres a idea pick your own players and develop them. you have the biggest catchment and all you want to do it pick out of other sides

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                                          So I'm wondering how we will go next year. We need to replace these guys:

                                          Ioane, Plummer, Tele'a, Riccitelli, Suafoa, and Choat.

                                          It's a second year in a row we will need to replace key players.

                                          Ioane, Plummer, Tele'a, Riccitelli have been star players for us and Suafoa/Choat have been key squad members racking up plenty of game time with a lot of starts and experience. We will need to spend some dollars to get players of similar quality.

                                          I'm not a 100% sure who is available but will throw some names out there who are or might be off contract.

                                          Ioane/Plummer - Obviously Rieko and Plummer are massive losses. That said I thought Lam was our best centre last year so he's an option there. At the moment Lam would be the best 12 and 13 option with Ioane gone. Maybe a Taele and Lam partnership.

                                          With Plummer and Ioane going they need two midfield options plus someone who can cover 10. It's worth keeping a hold of Grindlay if we can and developing him.

                                          Another option might be to bring Sullivan in as a midfield option at 12 if Perofeta and Forbes are still available.

                                          In terms of squad replacements for those two potentially Kaleb Trask, Quinn Tupaea, Rameka Poihipi, Gideon Wrampling, Levi Aumua, and Thomas Umaga Jensen.

                                          Tele'a - Off the top of my head Tito-Harris and Mathis could be options. Tele'a was key to our success and he didn't have the same impact this year which I think was telling. Would have been good if we kept anyone of Kade Banks, Caleb Tangitau or Kneepkins.

                                          Potentially Etene Nanai Seturo, Kade Banks or Dan Sinkinson, Oli Mathis, Xavier Tito Harris.

                                          Riccitelli - potentially the hardest to replace. A key team member of our success that has helped us develop a rock solid set piece and winning the collisions. Very high workrate. Potentials - Bradley Slater, Ioane Moananu, George Bell, Sione Vikena, Ray Tuputupu and Vernon Bason. Ideally it would be someone with a lot of experience like Slater or someone with a lot of potential like Bell or Tuputupu.

                                          Suafoa, and Choat - Sadly I can't see Cameron Suafoa making a come back even in remission. Cameron Suafoa obviously covered 6, 8 and lock. He was a player of huge potential and seemed like a great person too.

                                          Choat has been a reliable workhorse and servant for the Blues.

                                          He was a key component of our more success in recent years being a good professional example for younger players.

                                          Potential replacements - Rob Rush, Lotu Inisi, Semisi Tupou Ta'eiloa, Sione Havili Talitui, Zach Gallagher, James Thompson, Malachi Wrampling-Alec, Jimmy Tupou, Mitchell Dunshea, Oliver Haig, Xavier Saifoloi, and Ethan Blackadder

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                                          @brodean said in Blues 2025:

                                          you can rule these options out
                                          Ioane Moananu, already Re signed for Crusaders
                                          George Bell I hear is about to Re sign with Crusaders.
                                          Zach Gallagher off to Japan
                                          Xavier Saifoloi,signed for 2026 with Crusaders
                                          Ethan Blackadder not chance will re sign with Crusaders or go to Japan

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