NRL 2025
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well, @booboo doing a sparky on a game thread he didn't even like was a waste of 25 posts.
Incredible game of league. Conditions were absolutely shithouse weren't they? The quintessential game of two halves. In the first half Qld didn't make errors, and played on the front foot, allowing their halves to dominate. In the 2nd NSW minimised the errors, stopped giving away thuggy penalties, while Qld made error after error. And so we end up with a close game.
First half started weirdly, with a couple of errors each, but NSW on the board with a bit of a lucky try. After that Qld took over. They ran hard, hit really hard, and that allowed Munster and Dearden to play down hill. NSW were very lucky not to get two guys in the bin, and i imagine at least Luia will get a stint on the sidelines. Lomax whacking Loiero was a double bonus, as it gave a penalty and took Trent out of the game. 26-6 was an amazing half time score.
2nd half was the complete opposite, NSW tidied their discipline up, played to their strengths and really got stuck in, while Qld went completely to pieces. Error after error, 6-agains, stupid short drop outs, bad reads on defense over and over again. The 2nd half was how i (and possibly NSW) expected the whole game to go.
In the end there was no sense of joy, either on my couch, or in the Qld camp. They probably should have lost that given the goal kicking woes. Still, we get an unexpected decider, and there were serious signs of life out of Qld.
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Obviously the talking point out of the game for controversy merchants and social media deadshits is the penalty count of 10-2.
If you take the 6-again counts in it's more like 12-8, and given two penalties were for an eye gouge and an elbow to the head, i don't think there is too much to whinge about.I am, however, starting to get on the side of the guys who are critical of the 6-again era. They are having huge impacts on games, and it can come almost impossible to stop momentum as teams get a long run of possession. They aren't scrutenised as they happen on the run, and there is no accountability around them. I think refs get carried away with them because they don't have to stop the game to give the attacking team another leg up, so they are way harsher on the infringements than they would be if they had to blow the whistle.
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Players:
For Qld, there were some absolute heroes. Up the Wahs!! Capewell with another entry to the "mariner doesn't know ball" file, he was best on ground i thought. Punished in defense, ran with freedom, got a dot. Huge game. The maligned Rueben Cotter wasn't far behind him, threw himself in to absolutely everything. The halves redemmed themselves behind a beaten pack (though i though Munster overdid the hero runs in the 2nd half). Carrigan was an absolute mile better than the very average Loiero.
Flip side? Toia did beautifully for the first try, and then had an absolute mare. Dropped the ball, bad read after bad read in defense. Latrell gave him an absolute bath. Kalyn Ponga proved his knights form is not due to his team mates, he's just playing shit. Absolute waste of a jersey last night. I've mentioned Loiero, but Tino dropped it cold far too many times for the so called leader.
For NSW, the myth of Nathan Cleary grows ever more. Absolute rubbish game from him. When NSW had repeated sets in the last 5 minutes his only play was a dump to Haas. Luai was rocks and diamonds. Bad errors, a fucking eye gouge, but did set up a few tries. Lomax had a shocker. Spencer Leniu is all chat, got absolutely owned by Collins.
If Cleary is out, and Luai gets suspended, with Moses already gone, suddenly NSW is under enormous pressure.
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Players:
For Qld, there were some absolute heroes. Up the Wahs!! Capewell with another entry to the "mariner doesn't know ball" file, he was best on ground i thought. Punished in defense, ran with freedom, got a dot. Huge game. The maligned Rueben Cotter wasn't far behind him, threw himself in to absolutely everything. The halves redemmed themselves behind a beaten pack (though i though Munster overdid the hero runs in the 2nd half). Carrigan was an absolute mile better than the very average Loiero.
Flip side? Toia did beautifully for the first try, and then had an absolute mare. Dropped the ball, bad read after bad read in defense. Latrell gave him an absolute bath. Kalyn Ponga proved his knights form is not due to his team mates, he's just playing shit. Absolute waste of a jersey last night. I've mentioned Loiero, but Tino dropped it cold far too many times for the so called leader.
For NSW, the myth of Nathan Cleary grows ever more. Absolute rubbish game from him. When NSW had repeated sets in the last 5 minutes his only play was a dump to Haas. Luai was rocks and diamonds. Bad errors, a fucking eye gouge, but did set up a few tries. Lomax had a shocker. Spencer Leniu is all chat, got absolutely owned by Collins.
If Cleary is out, and Luai gets suspended, with Moses already gone, suddenly NSW is under enormous pressure.
@mariner4life said in NRL 2025:
For NSW, the myth of Nathan Cleary grows ever more. Absolute rubbish game from him.
I see less and less people having issue with this take now he's not being carried by a wish list roster in Penrith.
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Geez you go away for a few days and the Courier mail takes over the thread.
Great game last night even if the conditions were awful. Capewell wound back the clock for sure, Munster looked inspired and even Grant had arguably his best game of the year.
Tino versus Martin was fun to watch, as was Spencer vs Collins
Hammy plagued Too was a beast
Hudson Young showed why he deserved to be at that level with some great effort and minutes.
Some really great performances from both sides as well as mixed efforts from others.
Cleary hardly a Myth, playing with a groin strain that even his club were unaware of (dumb from Laurie) almost single handedly brought them back into the game with his no try (Stephano) . Technically correct call but on a very wet ground would have loved to see how close Pat would have got to stopping chasing from behind where momentum often carries players. Will never know but either way showed why he is dangerous even on one leg. As for last 5 minutes according to interviews they were trying to pull Toia out of the line again, which was the play that had brought them back into this game, but with the linespeed and accuracy this time well executed from Qld, the dump was a get out clause. Personally thought Stephen Chricton under used and they should have gone right but never did.
Interestingly Lomax, Critta and Latrell kick at just over 80% for the season, Cleary has 90% accuracy. Could have been the difference....It wasnt
and Im hardly going to complain about a tied series for the spectacle.Lastly NRL reviewers saw Luai incident as a facial not a eye gouge (I dont like either one personally, will be happy when even facials eventually get ruled out of the game), both received fines only
No one except the media cares about the penalty count, yeah rub of the green but didn't change any outcome and the six agains quite rightly pointed out came back to haunt Qld in second half.
Just a great origin battle regardless in awful conditions
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Geez you go away for a few days and the Courier mail takes over the thread.
Great game last night even if the conditions were awful. Capewell wound back the clock for sure, Munster looked inspired and even Grant had arguably his best game of the year.
Tino versus Martin was fun to watch, as was Spencer vs Collins
Hammy plagued Too was a beast
Hudson Young showed why he deserved to be at that level with some great effort and minutes.
Some really great performances from both sides as well as mixed efforts from others.
Cleary hardly a Myth, playing with a groin strain that even his club were unaware of (dumb from Laurie) almost single handedly brought them back into the game with his no try (Stephano) . Technically correct call but on a very wet ground would have loved to see how close Pat would have got to stopping chasing from behind where momentum often carries players. Will never know but either way showed why he is dangerous even on one leg. As for last 5 minutes according to interviews they were trying to pull Toia out of the line again, which was the play that had brought them back into this game, but with the linespeed and accuracy this time well executed from Qld, the dump was a get out clause. Personally thought Stephen Chricton under used and they should have gone right but never did.
Interestingly Lomax, Critta and Latrell kick at just over 80% for the season, Cleary has 90% accuracy. Could have been the difference....It wasnt
and Im hardly going to complain about a tied series for the spectacle.Lastly NRL reviewers saw Luai incident as a facial not a eye gouge (I dont like either one personally, will be happy when even facials eventually get ruled out of the game), both received fines only
No one except the media cares about the penalty count, yeah rub of the green but didn't change any outcome and the six agains quite rightly pointed out came back to haunt Qld in second half.
Just a great origin battle regardless in awful conditions
@bayimports said in NRL 2025:
Hammy plagued Too was a beast
undisputed best winger of all time.
Yes he's made for this "carry out of the back" era as his metre stats show. But he's also rock solid under the highball, an absolute weapon with a sniff of a try, and defensively great. A huge part of the Penrith dynasty.
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Geez you go away for a few days and the Courier mail takes over the thread.
Great game last night even if the conditions were awful. Capewell wound back the clock for sure, Munster looked inspired and even Grant had arguably his best game of the year.
Tino versus Martin was fun to watch, as was Spencer vs Collins
Hammy plagued Too was a beast
Hudson Young showed why he deserved to be at that level with some great effort and minutes.
Some really great performances from both sides as well as mixed efforts from others.
Cleary hardly a Myth, playing with a groin strain that even his club were unaware of (dumb from Laurie) almost single handedly brought them back into the game with his no try (Stephano) . Technically correct call but on a very wet ground would have loved to see how close Pat would have got to stopping chasing from behind where momentum often carries players. Will never know but either way showed why he is dangerous even on one leg. As for last 5 minutes according to interviews they were trying to pull Toia out of the line again, which was the play that had brought them back into this game, but with the linespeed and accuracy this time well executed from Qld, the dump was a get out clause. Personally thought Stephen Chricton under used and they should have gone right but never did.
Interestingly Lomax, Critta and Latrell kick at just over 80% for the season, Cleary has 90% accuracy. Could have been the difference....It wasnt
and Im hardly going to complain about a tied series for the spectacle.Lastly NRL reviewers saw Luai incident as a facial not a eye gouge (I dont like either one personally, will be happy when even facials eventually get ruled out of the game), both received fines only
No one except the media cares about the penalty count, yeah rub of the green but didn't change any outcome and the six agains quite rightly pointed out came back to haunt Qld in second half.
Just a great origin battle regardless in awful conditions
@bayimports said in NRL 2025:
Cleary hardly a Myth, playing with a groin strain that even his club were unaware of
ah, Fox Sports has arrived
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@bayimports said in NRL 2025:
Cleary hardly a Myth, playing with a groin strain that even his club were unaware of
ah, Fox Sports has arrived
@mariner4life said in NRL 2025:
@bayimports said in NRL 2025:
Cleary hardly a Myth, playing with a groin strain that even his club were unaware of
ah, Fox Sports has arrived
lol perhaps I should have led with an even more obscure headline like Billy the grub..
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Geez you go away for a few days and the Courier mail takes over the thread.
Great game last night even if the conditions were awful. Capewell wound back the clock for sure, Munster looked inspired and even Grant had arguably his best game of the year.
Tino versus Martin was fun to watch, as was Spencer vs Collins
Hammy plagued Too was a beast
Hudson Young showed why he deserved to be at that level with some great effort and minutes.
Some really great performances from both sides as well as mixed efforts from others.
Cleary hardly a Myth, playing with a groin strain that even his club were unaware of (dumb from Laurie) almost single handedly brought them back into the game with his no try (Stephano) . Technically correct call but on a very wet ground would have loved to see how close Pat would have got to stopping chasing from behind where momentum often carries players. Will never know but either way showed why he is dangerous even on one leg. As for last 5 minutes according to interviews they were trying to pull Toia out of the line again, which was the play that had brought them back into this game, but with the linespeed and accuracy this time well executed from Qld, the dump was a get out clause. Personally thought Stephen Chricton under used and they should have gone right but never did.
Interestingly Lomax, Critta and Latrell kick at just over 80% for the season, Cleary has 90% accuracy. Could have been the difference....It wasnt
and Im hardly going to complain about a tied series for the spectacle.Lastly NRL reviewers saw Luai incident as a facial not a eye gouge (I dont like either one personally, will be happy when even facials eventually get ruled out of the game), both received fines only
No one except the media cares about the penalty count, yeah rub of the green but didn't change any outcome and the six agains quite rightly pointed out came back to haunt Qld in second half.
Just a great origin battle regardless in awful conditions
@bayimports said in NRL 2025:
Cleary hardly a Myth, playing with a groin strain that even his club were unaware of
Is that from his publicist or manager?
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Mick Ennis, who is the national expert on Nathan's groin
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well, @booboo doing a sparky on a game thread he didn't even like was a waste of 25 posts.
Incredible game of league. Conditions were absolutely shithouse weren't they? The quintessential game of two halves. In the first half Qld didn't make errors, and played on the front foot, allowing their halves to dominate. In the 2nd NSW minimised the errors, stopped giving away thuggy penalties, while Qld made error after error. And so we end up with a close game.
First half started weirdly, with a couple of errors each, but NSW on the board with a bit of a lucky try. After that Qld took over. They ran hard, hit really hard, and that allowed Munster and Dearden to play down hill. NSW were very lucky not to get two guys in the bin, and i imagine at least Luia will get a stint on the sidelines. Lomax whacking Loiero was a double bonus, as it gave a penalty and took Trent out of the game. 26-6 was an amazing half time score.
2nd half was the complete opposite, NSW tidied their discipline up, played to their strengths and really got stuck in, while Qld went completely to pieces. Error after error, 6-agains, stupid short drop outs, bad reads on defense over and over again. The 2nd half was how i (and possibly NSW) expected the whole game to go.
In the end there was no sense of joy, either on my couch, or in the Qld camp. They probably should have lost that given the goal kicking woes. Still, we get an unexpected decider, and there were serious signs of life out of Qld.
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Our left edge defence got to be close to worst in the competition. DWZ injury allows an upgrade in winger for next week but today even those covering were just as poor.
As soon as Metcalf was injured attack also stalled. Hopefully not serious and hopefully Marata has no further issues after failing the cat 1 .
Penrith were good for a change today but we still should have put them away. Missed opportunity
