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  • MN5M MN5

    @zedsdeadbaby said in NZ Cricket:

    @MN5 said in NZ Cricket:

    @zedsdeadbaby said in NZ Cricket:

    Unfortunately I can’t see it getting better anytime soon - this isn’t just a one off bad summer. Most of them are like this now or similar.

    And trying to hype up the village level Super Smash for Jan/Feb? Please.

    Can someone PLEASE tell me this is wrong ?

    https://www.nzc.nz/schedules?tab=fixtures&team=b7fd78e1-05ff-441b-be11-dbb4f0323a4f

    We haven't played a test since December last year......we're not due to play another til December THIS year.

    Windies are touring, should be a good chance for a number of our guys to pad their averages ( although the Windies have unearthed a few good pace bowlers of late ) but according to this we only have a total of THREE tests this summer ?

    What am I missing ?

    Windies have just rolled Australia for 180.
    But yeah, we aren’t a viable commodity globally despite our results - and the ICC is a toothless tiger in dealing with T20 leagues. There should be international windows carved out (or franchise windows depending on your POV) Ala football - which is not a perfect system but international cricket risks dying if it keeps this up

    Like I said, good pace bowlers. Seales and Joseph with 9 wickets between them. Great effort.

    Their batting is another story, Kraigg Brathwaite has battled to 99 tests with a career average of 33. Says it all considering none of the others average over 30.

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    Virgil
    wrote on last edited by
    #846

    @MN5 said in NZ Cricket:

    @zedsdeadbaby said in NZ Cricket:

    @MN5 said in NZ Cricket:

    @zedsdeadbaby said in NZ Cricket:

    Unfortunately I can’t see it getting better anytime soon - this isn’t just a one off bad summer. Most of them are like this now or similar.

    And trying to hype up the village level Super Smash for Jan/Feb? Please.

    Can someone PLEASE tell me this is wrong ?

    https://www.nzc.nz/schedules?tab=fixtures&team=b7fd78e1-05ff-441b-be11-dbb4f0323a4f

    We haven't played a test since December last year......we're not due to play another til December THIS year.

    Windies are touring, should be a good chance for a number of our guys to pad their averages ( although the Windies have unearthed a few good pace bowlers of late ) but according to this we only have a total of THREE tests this summer ?

    What am I missing ?

    Windies have just rolled Australia for 180.
    But yeah, we aren’t a viable commodity globally despite our results - and the ICC is a toothless tiger in dealing with T20 leagues. There should be international windows carved out (or franchise windows depending on your POV) Ala football - which is not a perfect system but international cricket risks dying if it keeps this up

    Like I said, good pace bowlers. Seales and Joseph with 9 wickets between them. Great effort.

    Their batting is another story, Kraigg Brathwaite has battled to 99 tests with a career average of 33. Says it all considering none of the others average over 30.

    This test wont last 4 days
    Interesting to see you can watch it on Disney + as well

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    • V Virgil

      @MN5 said in NZ Cricket:

      @zedsdeadbaby said in NZ Cricket:

      @MN5 said in NZ Cricket:

      @zedsdeadbaby said in NZ Cricket:

      Unfortunately I can’t see it getting better anytime soon - this isn’t just a one off bad summer. Most of them are like this now or similar.

      And trying to hype up the village level Super Smash for Jan/Feb? Please.

      Can someone PLEASE tell me this is wrong ?

      https://www.nzc.nz/schedules?tab=fixtures&team=b7fd78e1-05ff-441b-be11-dbb4f0323a4f

      We haven't played a test since December last year......we're not due to play another til December THIS year.

      Windies are touring, should be a good chance for a number of our guys to pad their averages ( although the Windies have unearthed a few good pace bowlers of late ) but according to this we only have a total of THREE tests this summer ?

      What am I missing ?

      Windies have just rolled Australia for 180.
      But yeah, we aren’t a viable commodity globally despite our results - and the ICC is a toothless tiger in dealing with T20 leagues. There should be international windows carved out (or franchise windows depending on your POV) Ala football - which is not a perfect system but international cricket risks dying if it keeps this up

      Like I said, good pace bowlers. Seales and Joseph with 9 wickets between them. Great effort.

      Their batting is another story, Kraigg Brathwaite has battled to 99 tests with a career average of 33. Says it all considering none of the others average over 30.

      This test wont last 4 days
      Interesting to see you can watch it on Disney + as well

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      MN5
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      #847

      @Virgil said in NZ Cricket:

      @MN5 said in NZ Cricket:

      @zedsdeadbaby said in NZ Cricket:

      @MN5 said in NZ Cricket:

      @zedsdeadbaby said in NZ Cricket:

      Unfortunately I can’t see it getting better anytime soon - this isn’t just a one off bad summer. Most of them are like this now or similar.

      And trying to hype up the village level Super Smash for Jan/Feb? Please.

      Can someone PLEASE tell me this is wrong ?

      https://www.nzc.nz/schedules?tab=fixtures&team=b7fd78e1-05ff-441b-be11-dbb4f0323a4f

      We haven't played a test since December last year......we're not due to play another til December THIS year.

      Windies are touring, should be a good chance for a number of our guys to pad their averages ( although the Windies have unearthed a few good pace bowlers of late ) but according to this we only have a total of THREE tests this summer ?

      What am I missing ?

      Windies have just rolled Australia for 180.
      But yeah, we aren’t a viable commodity globally despite our results - and the ICC is a toothless tiger in dealing with T20 leagues. There should be international windows carved out (or franchise windows depending on your POV) Ala football - which is not a perfect system but international cricket risks dying if it keeps this up

      Like I said, good pace bowlers. Seales and Joseph with 9 wickets between them. Great effort.

      Their batting is another story, Kraigg Brathwaite has battled to 99 tests with a career average of 33. Says it all considering none of the others average over 30.

      This test wont last 4 days
      Interesting to see you can watch it on Disney + as well

      Absolutely not. The Australian bowlers will plow through these guys then the batsmen will do much better second time round and roll them again.

      @NTA any reason Smith and Bus change aren't playing ?

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        Marnus was dropped, Smith injured from memory.

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        • DonsteppaD Donsteppa

          Marnus was dropped, Smith injured from memory.

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          MN5
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          #849

          @Donsteppa said in NZ Cricket:

          Marnus was dropped, Smith injured from memory.

          Thanks for a quick response ( I could have probably googled that but always nice when someone gets back to you 🙂 )

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          • MN5M MN5

            @Donsteppa said in NZ Cricket:

            Marnus was dropped, Smith injured from memory.

            Thanks for a quick response ( I could have probably googled that but always nice when someone gets back to you 🙂 )

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            #850

            @MN5 said in NZ Cricket:

            @Donsteppa said in NZ Cricket:

            Marnus was dropped, Smith injured from memory.

            Thanks for a quick response ( I could have probably googled that but always nice when someone gets back to you 🙂 )

            West indies 4/50odd. That's all she wrote. Long way back from here.

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            • nzzpN nzzp

              @MN5 said in NZ Cricket:

              @Donsteppa said in NZ Cricket:

              Marnus was dropped, Smith injured from memory.

              Thanks for a quick response ( I could have probably googled that but always nice when someone gets back to you 🙂 )

              West indies 4/50odd. That's all she wrote. Long way back from here.

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              #851

              @nzzp said in NZ Cricket:

              @MN5 said in NZ Cricket:

              @Donsteppa said in NZ Cricket:

              Marnus was dropped, Smith injured from memory.

              Thanks for a quick response ( I could have probably googled that but always nice when someone gets back to you 🙂 )

              West indies 4/50odd. That's all she wrote. Long way back from here.

              Yeah if any country has struggled at test level due to anyone decent playing T20 it's them.

              That top order is Black Caps mid 90s bad.

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              • MN5M MN5

                @Chris-B said in NZ Cricket:

                The time is ripe for a Kerry Packer style "Supertest" rebellion - hiring all the batsmen that would rather bat like Bradman and Boycott, rather than BMac.

                Fines to be issued for excessive runrates....

                https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/dravid-symbolised-india-s-diffidence-327778

                Rahul Dravid could get a recall......I remember falling asleep watching on the couch when he came out to bat then waking up about half an hour later and he was still on 0.......

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                #852

                @MN5 said in NZ Cricket:

                @Chris-B said in NZ Cricket:

                The time is ripe for a Kerry Packer style "Supertest" rebellion - hiring all the batsmen that would rather bat like Bradman and Boycott, rather than BMac.

                Fines to be issued for excessive runrates....

                https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/dravid-symbolised-india-s-diffidence-327778

                Rahul Dravid could get a recall......I remember falling asleep watching on the couch when he came out to bat then waking up about half an hour later and he was still on 0.......

                I bet that Sunny Gavaskar used to get a raging chunk when that happened

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                • canefanC canefan

                  @MN5 said in NZ Cricket:

                  @Chris-B said in NZ Cricket:

                  The time is ripe for a Kerry Packer style "Supertest" rebellion - hiring all the batsmen that would rather bat like Bradman and Boycott, rather than BMac.

                  Fines to be issued for excessive runrates....

                  https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/dravid-symbolised-india-s-diffidence-327778

                  Rahul Dravid could get a recall......I remember falling asleep watching on the couch when he came out to bat then waking up about half an hour later and he was still on 0.......

                  I bet that Sunny Gavaskar used to get a raging chunk when that happened

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                  MN5
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                  #853

                  @canefan said in NZ Cricket:

                  @MN5 said in NZ Cricket:

                  @Chris-B said in NZ Cricket:

                  The time is ripe for a Kerry Packer style "Supertest" rebellion - hiring all the batsmen that would rather bat like Bradman and Boycott, rather than BMac.

                  Fines to be issued for excessive runrates....

                  https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/dravid-symbolised-india-s-diffidence-327778

                  Rahul Dravid could get a recall......I remember falling asleep watching on the couch when he came out to bat then waking up about half an hour later and he was still on 0.......

                  I bet that Sunny Gavaskar used to get a raging chunk when that happened

                  Damn right.

                  Legend at test level ( if a bit slow.....)

                  Check out this scorecard, I wouldn't believe it if it wasn't in front of me, did no one inform him you can't bat out a draw in an ODI ?

                  https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/prudential-world-cup-1975-60793/england-vs-india-1st-match-65035/full-scorecard

                  https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/alex-bowden-sunil-gavaskar-36-not-out-550658

                  Worth noting his overall record from 108 matches was 3092 runs at 35.13 at a decent strike rate ( for the era ) of 62.26.

                  So fuck knows what he was thinking during this game.

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                  • MN5M MN5

                    @canefan said in NZ Cricket:

                    @MN5 said in NZ Cricket:

                    @Chris-B said in NZ Cricket:

                    The time is ripe for a Kerry Packer style "Supertest" rebellion - hiring all the batsmen that would rather bat like Bradman and Boycott, rather than BMac.

                    Fines to be issued for excessive runrates....

                    https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/dravid-symbolised-india-s-diffidence-327778

                    Rahul Dravid could get a recall......I remember falling asleep watching on the couch when he came out to bat then waking up about half an hour later and he was still on 0.......

                    I bet that Sunny Gavaskar used to get a raging chunk when that happened

                    Damn right.

                    Legend at test level ( if a bit slow.....)

                    Check out this scorecard, I wouldn't believe it if it wasn't in front of me, did no one inform him you can't bat out a draw in an ODI ?

                    https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/prudential-world-cup-1975-60793/england-vs-india-1st-match-65035/full-scorecard

                    https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/alex-bowden-sunil-gavaskar-36-not-out-550658

                    Worth noting his overall record from 108 matches was 3092 runs at 35.13 at a decent strike rate ( for the era ) of 62.26.

                    So fuck knows what he was thinking during this game.

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                    canefan
                    wrote on last edited by canefan
                    #854

                    @MN5 said in NZ Cricket:

                    @canefan said in NZ Cricket:

                    @MN5 said in NZ Cricket:

                    @Chris-B said in NZ Cricket:

                    The time is ripe for a Kerry Packer style "Supertest" rebellion - hiring all the batsmen that would rather bat like Bradman and Boycott, rather than BMac.

                    Fines to be issued for excessive runrates....

                    https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/dravid-symbolised-india-s-diffidence-327778

                    Rahul Dravid could get a recall......I remember falling asleep watching on the couch when he came out to bat then waking up about half an hour later and he was still on 0.......

                    I bet that Sunny Gavaskar used to get a raging chunk when that happened

                    Damn right.

                    Legend at test level ( if a bit slow.....)

                    Check out this scorecard, I wouldn't believe it if it wasn't in front of me, did no one inform him you can't bat out a draw in an ODI ?

                    https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/prudential-world-cup-1975-60793/england-vs-india-1st-match-65035/full-scorecard

                    https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/alex-bowden-sunil-gavaskar-36-not-out-550658

                    Worth noting his overall record from 108 matches was 3092 runs at 35.13 at a decent strike rate ( for the era ) of 62.26.

                    So fuck knows what he was thinking during this game.

                    Felt like a net day?

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                    • V Virgil

                      @MN5 said in NZ Cricket:

                      @zedsdeadbaby said in NZ Cricket:

                      @MN5 said in NZ Cricket:

                      @zedsdeadbaby said in NZ Cricket:

                      Unfortunately I can’t see it getting better anytime soon - this isn’t just a one off bad summer. Most of them are like this now or similar.

                      And trying to hype up the village level Super Smash for Jan/Feb? Please.

                      Can someone PLEASE tell me this is wrong ?

                      https://www.nzc.nz/schedules?tab=fixtures&team=b7fd78e1-05ff-441b-be11-dbb4f0323a4f

                      We haven't played a test since December last year......we're not due to play another til December THIS year.

                      Windies are touring, should be a good chance for a number of our guys to pad their averages ( although the Windies have unearthed a few good pace bowlers of late ) but according to this we only have a total of THREE tests this summer ?

                      What am I missing ?

                      Windies have just rolled Australia for 180.
                      But yeah, we aren’t a viable commodity globally despite our results - and the ICC is a toothless tiger in dealing with T20 leagues. There should be international windows carved out (or franchise windows depending on your POV) Ala football - which is not a perfect system but international cricket risks dying if it keeps this up

                      Like I said, good pace bowlers. Seales and Joseph with 9 wickets between them. Great effort.

                      Their batting is another story, Kraigg Brathwaite has battled to 99 tests with a career average of 33. Says it all considering none of the others average over 30.

                      This test wont last 4 days
                      Interesting to see you can watch it on Disney + as well

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                      NTA
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                      #855

                      @Virgil said in NZ Cricket:

                      Interesting to see you can watch it on Disney + as well

                      Thanks for that - I had wondered where tf it was after Amazon Prime had the WTC

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                        LABCAT
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                        Real fans would know we are playing two tests against Zimbabwe very soon.

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                        • L LABCAT

                          Real fans would know we are playing two tests against Zimbabwe very soon.

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                          MN5
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                          @LABCAT said in NZ Cricket:

                          Real fans would know we are playing two tests against Zimbabwe very soon.

                          In my outrage I completely missed that.

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                          • NTAN NTA

                            @Virgil said in NZ Cricket:

                            Interesting to see you can watch it on Disney + as well

                            Thanks for that - I had wondered where tf it was after Amazon Prime had the WTC

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                            Virgil
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #858

                            @NTA said in NZ Cricket:

                            @Virgil said in NZ Cricket:

                            Interesting to see you can watch it on Disney + as well

                            Thanks for that - I had wondered where tf it was after Amazon Prime had the WTC

                            ESPN is on Disney +, they have quite a bit of sport on there now

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                              Rob Walter hasn't wasted time in making his mark on selection. Conway dropped for the T20 Tri-Series against Zimbabwe and SA. Seifert is now the first-choice WK.

                              Mitch Santner (captain), Finn Allen, Tim Seifert, Rachin Ravindra, Daryl Mitchell, Mark Chapman, Glenn Phillips, Bevon Jacobs, Michael Bracewell, Matt Henry, Adam Milne, Ish Sodhi, Jacob Duffy, Zak Foulkes, Will O’Rourke.

                              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360737459/black-caps-opener-devon-conway-dumped-new-coachs-first-squad-t20-tri-series

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                                Rob Walter hasn't wasted time in making his mark on selection. Conway dropped for the T20 Tri-Series against Zimbabwe and SA. Seifert is now the first-choice WK.

                                Mitch Santner (captain), Finn Allen, Tim Seifert, Rachin Ravindra, Daryl Mitchell, Mark Chapman, Glenn Phillips, Bevon Jacobs, Michael Bracewell, Matt Henry, Adam Milne, Ish Sodhi, Jacob Duffy, Zak Foulkes, Will O’Rourke.

                                https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360737459/black-caps-opener-devon-conway-dumped-new-coachs-first-squad-t20-tri-series

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                                #860

                                @Bovidae said in NZ Cricket:

                                Rob Walter hasn't wasted time in making his mark on selection. Conway dropped for the T20 Tri-Series against Zimbabwe and SA. Seifert is now the first-choice WK.

                                Mitch Santner (captain), Finn Allen, Tim Seifert, Rachin Ravindra, Daryl Mitchell, Mark Chapman, Glenn Phillips, Bevon Jacobs, Michael Bracewell, Matt Henry, Adam Milne, Ish Sodhi, Jacob Duffy, Zak Foulkes, Will O’Rourke.

                                https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360737459/black-caps-opener-devon-conway-dumped-new-coachs-first-squad-t20-tri-series

                                That could be it for Conway. Not getting any younger and in a massive rut in terms of form.

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                                  Pretty hard to disagree with that, even when Conway's scored runs the last 2 seasons he's looked out of sorts.

                                  Coaching in cricket is always a balancing act when a good player is out of form - you need to give them some time to try to regain form, but at the same time you can't just keep selecting them over new prospects longer term if they don't regain it.

                                  I think Stead erred too much on the side of continuing to pick his established players despite poor results (Southee, Nicholls come to mind). I'm pretty happy if Walter is a bit more cut throat in that regard.

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                                    Pretty hard to disagree with that, even when Conway's scored runs the last 2 seasons he's looked out of sorts.

                                    Coaching in cricket is always a balancing act when a good player is out of form - you need to give them some time to try to regain form, but at the same time you can't just keep selecting them over new prospects longer term if they don't regain it.

                                    I think Stead erred too much on the side of continuing to pick his established players despite poor results (Southee, Nicholls come to mind). I'm pretty happy if Walter is a bit more cut throat in that regard.

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                                    @No-Quarter said in NZ Cricket:

                                    Pretty hard to disagree with that, even when Conway's scored runs the last 2 seasons he's looked out of sorts.

                                    Coaching in cricket is always a balancing act when a good player is out of form - you need to give them some time to try to regain form, but at the same time you can't just keep selecting them over new prospects longer term if they don't regain it.

                                    I think Stead erred too much on the side of continuing to pick his established players despite poor results (Southee, Nicholls come to mind). I'm pretty happy if Walter is a bit more cut throat in that regard.

                                    Yeah Conway had a magic start but his form has absolutely fallen off a cliff.

                                    Will Young has done the opposite and showed he needs to be persevered with although it’s still a concern a big score in the longest form has eluded him.

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                                      Shame to see Mitch Hay miss out, thought had looked good in his appearances last season

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                                        Shame to see Mitch Hay miss out, thought had looked good in his appearances last season

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                                        @chucknz said in NZ Cricket:

                                        Shame to see Mitch Hay miss out, thought had looked good in his appearances last season

                                        He hasn't really nailed down t20 batting, yet. Even at domestic level. Looks like Seifert is who they are inking in for that for this T20 cycle.

                                        The decision of Blundell or Hay for the upcoming test squad will be interesting, though.

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                                          Shame to see Mitch Hay miss out, thought had looked good in his appearances last season

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                                          @chucknz said in NZ Cricket:

                                          Shame to see Mitch Hay miss out, thought had looked good in his appearances last season

                                          Yeah I agree they should be developing him he is the best WK in NZ and showed enough for Canterbury and NZ in 20/20 to be selected.
                                          Siefert is a hit and miss Wk who gets untidy in 20/20 you can't afford to let runs through behind the wicket a good 20/20 bat.

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