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All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.

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  • CrucialC Crucial

    Can someone please explain what Naholo brings?
    I'm struggling to see much myself

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    @Crucial said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:

    Can someone please explain what Naholo brings?
    I'm struggling to see much myself

    The bit where he burned everyone on the outside with about 8cm of space?

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    • CrucialC Crucial

      Can someone please explain what Naholo brings?
      I'm struggling to see much myself

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      @Crucial said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:

      Can someone please explain what Naholo brings?
      I'm struggling to see much myself

      Whatever Savea brings (whatever that is), plus a little more.😀

      Quicker and harder to bring down and has the luxury of not turning up fat to his Super team for two years running.

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      • CrucialC Crucial

        Can someone please explain what Naholo brings?
        I'm struggling to see much myself

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        @Crucial said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:

        Can someone please explain what Naholo brings?
        I'm struggling to see much myself

        Please explain what Savea brings then.

        For me, Naholo's pace and workrate were two pretty obvious improvements.

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          Yep Naholo's pace and power is super useful - it's a bit of a point of difference in that backline (Beaudie obviously helps here too in the pace side of things). Naholo is a constant threat that has to be accounted for that can open up other opportunities, whether he is on the end of the line or in midfield. He had multiple breaks in the Bok game. His error rate has come way down also in his last two tests.

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            fast, powerful, elusive, skillful, strong at the breakdown, good workrate, got in and played halfback when perenara got caught out of position, even put in a pretty decent touchfinder from the in-goal.
            that probably covers it at the moment i reckon.

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            • nzzpN nzzp

              @hydro11 said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:

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              I have no idea what Cruden did but he served about a month for his misdemeanour. Perhaps Aaron Smith will serve the same.

              Cruden was late for a flight which is a bit more serious IMO.

              Missed the flight because of missing curfew as I understood it ... missing curfew because, well, it took longer than Aaron's.

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                @hydro11 said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:

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                I have no idea what Cruden did but he served about a month for his misdemeanour. Perhaps Aaron Smith will serve the same.

                Cruden was late for a flight which is a bit more serious IMO.

                Missed the flight because of missing curfew as I understood it ... missing curfew because, well, it took longer than Aaron's.

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                @nzzp said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:

                Cruden was late for a flight which is a bit more serious IMO.

                Missed the flight because of missing curfew as I understood it ... missing curfew because, well, it took longer than Aaron's.

                always takes longer the more people there are....

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                  Who shifts when NMS is back ? Dagg to the bench?

                  These are real first world problems aren't they?

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                  • jeggaJ jegga

                    Who shifts when NMS is back ? Dagg to the bench?

                    These are real first world problems aren't they?

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                    @jegga said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:

                    Who shifts when NMS is back ? Dagg to the bench?

                    These are real first world problems aren't they?

                    HA HA HA H A H AH AH HA H AH HA AHAHHA HA AHHA HA H AH AH HA HA HA HA

                    I love that we are awesome! I completely forgot he was out!

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                    • HoorooH Hooroo

                      @jegga said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:

                      Who shifts when NMS is back ? Dagg to the bench?

                      These are real first world problems aren't they?

                      HA HA HA H A H AH AH HA H AH HA AHAHHA HA AHHA HA H AH AH HA HA HA HA

                      I love that we are awesome! I completely forgot he was out!

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                      @Hooroo post of the year right there

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                      • HoorooH Hooroo

                        @jegga said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:

                        Who shifts when NMS is back ? Dagg to the bench?

                        These are real first world problems aren't they?

                        HA HA HA H A H AH AH HA H AH HA AHAHHA HA AHHA HA H AH AH HA HA HA HA

                        I love that we are awesome! I completely forgot he was out!

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                        @Hooroo said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:

                        @jegga said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:

                        Who shifts when NMS is back ? Dagg to the bench?

                        These are real first world problems aren't they?

                        HA HA HA H A H AH AH HA H AH HA AHAHHA HA AHHA HA H AH AH HA HA HA HA

                        I love that we are awesome! I completely forgot he was out!

                        I had that thought when someone mentioned our lack of depth at wing. Not with NMS and Rieko available underneath Smith, Dagg, Savea and Naholo. How many do we need?

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                          Better bring on Nanai to shore up that fullback depth. 😉

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                          • westcoastieW westcoastie

                            Nothing beats getting ahead of ones self:
                            Not looking to select a team, because who knows what might happen injury-wise and form-shifts tonight but...

                            Does A.Smith come back in?

                            Strongest lineup possible if we beat the Boks right?

                            Changes if we lose? Bledisloe already ours, nothing game, Eden park record to preserve

                            Does the Eden Park test count as part of EOY tour, Rieko Ioane to the bench?

                            Discuss...

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                            With the 2-wk breaks between these tests Hansen and co won't need to make many changes, if any. They've used the last 2 tests to freshen up some players.

                            If Cane is back he'll start and A Smith will return (if available). Perhaps Dagg gets a rest but I wouldn't want Savea and Naholo on the wing - one or the other. I think we're more likely to see some changes on the bench.

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                              Savea's best asset is his strike-rate. Basically a guaranteed try a game.

                              But Naholo is such an athlete - just looks like poetry in motion in full flight. He has also been gradually fixing the flaws in other parts of his game.

                              Naholo 11, Smith 15, NMS 14.

                              That would (will) be awesome.

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                                I'm thinking NMS may be lucky to get back in.

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                                  @Tregaskis said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:

                                  @hydro11 There is possibly a recent precedent. Two years ago Cruden transgressed and missed the Arg / SA tour plus the Bledisloe III game in Brisneyland (Barrett started, and Slade came on and kicked the matchwinner). I don't recall Cruden being injured (there was talk he would play for Manawatu during his "suspension" but I don't think it happened) and I believe his next game was the second EOYT game vs England (Carter started the first game in Chicago).

                                  I have no idea what Cruden did but he served about a month for his misdemeanour. Perhaps Aaron Smith will serve the same.

                                  Cruden was late for a flight which is a bit more serious IMO.

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                                  booboo
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                                  @hydro11 said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:

                                  @Tregaskis said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:

                                  @hydro11 There is possibly a recent precedent. Two years ago Cruden transgressed and missed the Arg / SA tour plus the Bledisloe III game in Brisneyland (Barrett started, and Slade came on and kicked the matchwinner). I don't recall Cruden being injured (there was talk he would play for Manawatu during his "suspension" but I don't think it happened) and I believe his next game was the second EOYT game vs England (Carter started the first game in Chicago).

                                  I have no idea what Cruden did but he served about a month for his misdemeanour. Perhaps Aaron Smith will serve the same.

                                  Cruden was late for a flight which is a bit more serious IMO.

                                  @hydro11 said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:

                                  @Tregaskis said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:

                                  @hydro11 There is possibly a recent precedent. Two years ago Cruden transgressed and missed the Arg / SA tour plus the Bledisloe III game in Brisneyland (Barrett started, and Slade came on and kicked the matchwinner). I don't recall Cruden being injured (there was talk he would play for Manawatu during his "suspension" but I don't think it happened) and I believe his next game was the second EOYT game vs England (Carter started the first game in Chicago).

                                  I have no idea what Cruden did but he served about a month for his misdemeanour. Perhaps Aaron Smith will serve the same.

                                  Cruden was late for a flight which is a bit more serious IMO.

                                  Err ... WHY was he late for a flight?

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                                  • NTAN NTA

                                    @westcoastie said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:

                                    @hydro11

                                    • Give Aaron some 'space' to deal with off-field stuff

                                    Yeah about 3m x 2m of space ought to do it. Make sure its got the necessary bars and signage. Here's one they prepared earlier:

                                    alt text

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                                    @NTA said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:

                                    @westcoastie said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:

                                    @hydro11

                                    • Give Aaron some 'space' to deal with off-field stuff

                                    Yeah about 3m x 2m of space ought to do it. Make sure its got the necessary bars and signage. Here's one they prepared earlier:

                                    alt text

                                    I fitted out a toilet like that a few years back and there wasn't fixing for some of the grab rails which meant they had to be raised which wouldn't meet the specs so I told my boss and he replied "if you can't reach those there's something bloody wrong with ya".

                                    Ffs.

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                                    • KirwanK Kirwan

                                      @Hooroo said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:

                                      @jegga said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:

                                      Who shifts when NMS is back ? Dagg to the bench?

                                      These are real first world problems aren't they?

                                      HA HA HA H A H AH AH HA H AH HA AHAHHA HA AHHA HA H AH AH HA HA HA HA

                                      I love that we are awesome! I completely forgot he was out!

                                      I had that thought when someone mentioned our lack of depth at wing. Not with NMS and Rieko available underneath Smith, Dagg, Savea and Naholo. How many do we need?

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                                      @Kirwan said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:

                                      @Hooroo said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:

                                      @jegga said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:

                                      Who shifts when NMS is back ? Dagg to the bench?

                                      These are real first world problems aren't they?

                                      HA HA HA H A H AH AH HA H AH HA AHAHHA HA AHHA HA H AH AH HA HA HA HA

                                      I love that we are awesome! I completely forgot he was out!

                                      I had that thought when someone mentioned our lack of depth at wing. Not with NMS and Rieko available underneath Smith, Dagg, Savea and Naholo. How many do we need?

                                      Nainai had a week or so in the squad too didn'the?

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                                      • antipodeanA antipodean

                                        I'm thinking NMS may be lucky to get back in.

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                                        @antipodean said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:

                                        I'm thinking NMS may be lucky to get back in.

                                        He should be in the squad but you could be right. If Hansen wants one of Savea/Naholo to start then NMS is in a shoot out with Dagg. NMS should be a more valuable squaddie than Naholo/Savea though.

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                                        • jeggaJ jegga

                                          @NTA said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:

                                          @westcoastie said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:

                                          @hydro11

                                          • Give Aaron some 'space' to deal with off-field stuff

                                          Yeah about 3m x 2m of space ought to do it. Make sure its got the necessary bars and signage. Here's one they prepared earlier:

                                          alt text

                                          I fitted out a toilet like that a few years back and there wasn't fixing for some of the grab rails which meant they had to be raised which wouldn't meet the specs so I told my boss and he replied "if you can't reach those there's something bloody wrong with ya".

                                          Ffs.

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                                          @jegga said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:

                                          @NTA said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:

                                          @westcoastie said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:

                                          @hydro11

                                          • Give Aaron some 'space' to deal with off-field stuff

                                          Yeah about 3m x 2m of space ought to do it. Make sure its got the necessary bars and signage. Here's one they prepared earlier:

                                          alt text

                                          I fitted out a toilet like that a few years back and there wasn't fixing for some of the grab rails which meant they had to be raised which wouldn't meet the specs so I told my boss and he replied "if you can't reach those there's something bloody wrong with ya".

                                          Ffs.

                                          Smith is not a tall man. I suspect he bent her over the toilet rather than use grab rails.

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