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All Blacks v France II

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    Please consign dinks and cross kicks to history.

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      Sparky's team to play the French in Wellington:

      1. De Groot

      2. Taylor

      3. Newell

      4. S Barrett (C)

      5. Holland

      6. Vaa'i

      7. A. Savea

      8. Lo-Willie

      9. Roigard

      10. DMac

      11. C. Clarke

      12. J. Barrett

      13. Q. Tupaea

      14. W. Jordan

      15. R. Love

      16. S. Taukei'aho

      17. O. Norris

      18. P. Tosi or T. Lomax

      19. S. Finau

      20. D. Kirifi

      21. C. Ratima

      22. B. Barrett

      23. T. Tavatavnawai

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        That does raise one point - you'd like to think Williams and Lomax would have made a heck of a difference today.

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          That does raise one point - you'd like to think Williams and Lomax would have made a heck of a difference today.

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          @Bones said in All Blacks v France 2:

          That does raise one point - you'd like to think Williams and Lomax would have made a heck of a difference today.

          Would they have?

          I don't the forwards had any issues to be honest. It's not like Williams and Lomax are considerably better scrum agers than the players who started either.

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          • BonesB Bones

            That does raise one point - you'd like to think Williams and Lomax would have made a heck of a difference today.

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            @Bones said in All Blacks v France 2:

            That does raise one point - you'd like to think Williams and Lomax would have made a heck of a difference today.

            ABs B team without our starting props, starting number 8, new midfield and back 3 combos……well that’s what I told my French mate

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              @Bones said in All Blacks v France 2:

              That does raise one point - you'd like to think Williams and Lomax would have made a heck of a difference today.

              Would they have?

              I don't the forwards had any issues to be honest. It's not like Williams and Lomax are considerably better scrum agers than the players who started either.

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              @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks v France 2:

              @Bones said in All Blacks v France 2:

              That does raise one point - you'd like to think Williams and Lomax would have made a heck of a difference today.

              Would they have?

              I don't the forwards had any issues to be honest. It's not like Williams and Lomax are considerably better scrum agers than the players who started either.

              They carry the ball more than EDG and Newell

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                Don’t change a thing 1-23. Only thing that does need to be changed is decision making and ball security after a line break.

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                  Don’t change a thing 1-23. Only thing that does need to be changed is decision making and ball security after a line break.

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                  @game_film said in All Blacks v France 2:

                  Don’t change a thing 1-23. Only thing that does need to be changed is decision making and ball security after a line break.

                  Damn right. Sevu Reece can play through a concussion. Pine Tree would have.

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                    @game_film said in All Blacks v France 2:

                    Don’t change a thing 1-23. Only thing that does need to be changed is decision making and ball security after a line break.

                    Damn right. Sevu Reece can play through a concussion. Pine Tree would have.

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                    @MN5 Apologies, I missed the first 8 seconds.

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                      @MN5 Apologies, I missed the first 8 seconds.

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                      @game_film said in All Blacks v France 2:

                      @MN5 Apologies, I missed the first 8 seconds.

                      Sounds like something my other half would say

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                        1.De Groot
                        2.Taylor
                        3.Newell
                        4.S Barrett (C)
                        5.Holland
                        6.Vaa'i
                        7.A. Savea
                        8.Lio-Willie
                        9.Roigard
                        10.D Mac
                        11.T Tavatavnawai
                        12.J. Barrett
                        13.Q. Tupaea
                        14.R Ioane
                        15.W Jordan
                        16.S. Taukei'aho
                        17.O. Norris
                        18.P. Tosi or T. Lomax
                        19.D Papali’i
                        20.S Finau
                        21.N Hotham
                        22.B. Barrett
                        23.R Love

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                          brodean
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                          Though our defense was accurate it was weak. Zero dominant tackles from our forwards. Is that part of the plan or did we lack intent there?

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                            Why drop Barrett? Thought he went pretty bloody well - DMac on the other hand was rocks and diamonds.

                            I’d stick with the same team barring injuries (Lomax for Newell & Clarke for Reece). Proctor was poor, but one game is not a big enough sample size.

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                              Kirwan
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                              Barrett’s passing in particular was really good. Am sure Will Jordan wants him to stay at 10.

                              Speaking of that jammy bastard, he must be getting high up on the try count now

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                              • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                                @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks v France 2:

                                @Bones said in All Blacks v France 2:

                                That does raise one point - you'd like to think Williams and Lomax would have made a heck of a difference today.

                                Would they have?

                                I don't the forwards had any issues to be honest. It's not like Williams and Lomax are considerably better scrum agers than the players who started either.

                                They carry the ball more than EDG and Newell

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                                @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks v France 2:

                                @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks v France 2:

                                @Bones said in All Blacks v France 2:

                                That does raise one point - you'd like to think Williams and Lomax would have made a heck of a difference today.

                                Would they have?

                                I don't the forwards had any issues to be honest. It's not like Williams and Lomax are considerably better scrum agers than the players who started either.

                                They carry the ball more than EDG and Newell

                                Definitely - I'm not suggesting they're not better players. I just don't think they would've made that much of difference in that game. The All Blacks issues weren't that their forwards weren't carrying effectively enough.

                                With a better kicking/high ball game, a tiny bit more accuracy at crucial moments or smarter defence, and NZ would've won at a canter (easier said than done, or course, but I don't think better carrying from the starting props would've fixed any of those issues).

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                                • F frugby

                                  Why drop Barrett? Thought he went pretty bloody well - DMac on the other hand was rocks and diamonds.

                                  I’d stick with the same team barring injuries (Lomax for Newell & Clarke for Reece). Proctor was poor, but one game is not a big enough sample size.

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                                  @frugby said in All Blacks v France 2:

                                  Why drop Barrett? Thought he went pretty bloody well - DMac on the other hand was rocks and diamonds.

                                  I’d stick with the same team barring injuries (Lomax for Newell & Clarke for Reece). Proctor was poor, but one game is not a big enough sample size.

                                  He did go well, and yes, I agree, those are the only changes I'd make too.

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                                  • KirwanK Kirwan

                                    Barrett’s passing in particular was really good. Am sure Will Jordan wants him to stay at 10.

                                    Speaking of that jammy bastard, he must be getting high up on the try count now

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                                    @Kirwan said in All Blacks v France 2:

                                    Barrett’s passing in particular was really good. Am sure Will Jordan wants him to stay at 10.

                                    Speaking of that jammy bastard, he must be getting high up on the try count now

                                    His strike rate per test is nothing short of ridiculous and his class and calmness under pressure is extraordinary

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                                    • F frugby

                                      Why drop Barrett? Thought he went pretty bloody well - DMac on the other hand was rocks and diamonds.

                                      I’d stick with the same team barring injuries (Lomax for Newell & Clarke for Reece). Proctor was poor, but one game is not a big enough sample size.

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                                      @frugby said in All Blacks v France 2:

                                      Why drop Barrett? Thought he went pretty bloody well - DMac on the other hand was rocks and diamonds.

                                      I’d stick with the same team barring injuries (Lomax for Newell & Clarke for Reece). Proctor was poor, but one game is not a big enough sample size.

                                      I'd like Beauden to draw tacklers more

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                                        KiwiMurph
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                                        This will be a much different game compared to yesterday

                                        Swirling mid winter Cake Tin as opposed to under the roof

                                        French ref as opposed to Nick Berry

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                                          This will be a much different game compared to yesterday

                                          Swirling mid winter Cake Tin as opposed to under the roof

                                          French ref as opposed to Nick Berry

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                                          @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v France 2:

                                          French ref as opposed to Nick Berry

                                          Christophe Ridley is English despite the name. This will be his biggest test to date. He will also be younger than some of the players.

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