All Blacks v France II

Actually, I'd be happy to see Vaai go back to lock if Ah Kuoi goes to blindside, but it wouldn't make much sense when you can just throw PT in at lock.

brodean

@Kiwiwomble

@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks v France 2:

@brodean said in All Blacks v France 2:

@Canes4life said in All Blacks v France 2:

Anyone got the scoop for this week?

Rieko back to center. Ardie back to No 8. Vaa'i back to lock.

why dont we have a downvote button!

Don't shoot the messenger!

Mr Fish

@brodean said in All Blacks v France 2:

@Canes4life said in All Blacks v France 2:

Anyone got the scoop for this week?

Rieko back to center. Ardie back to No 8. Vaa'i back to lock.

Not sure if a joke or not...

MN5

@Bones said in All Blacks v France 2:

@Bones said in All Blacks v France 2:

I will find it very frustrating if there's anything but last week's group with injury changes.

3rd test, have at it.

Actually, I'd be happy to see Vaai go back to lock if Ah Kuoi goes to blindside, but it wouldn't make much sense when you can just throw PT in at lock.

No. Chopping and changing won't do him any good. Let's keep him at six. He's finally become a force at test level and there aren't exactly other options beating down the door at blindside.

Canes4life

@MN5 said in All Blacks v France 2:

@Canes4life said in All Blacks v France 2:

Anyone got the scoop for this week?

Yep, check my team. 100% correct. Bet the house on it.

Is that just what you think is going to happen or have you got a source?

Canes4life

@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks v France 2:

@brodean said in All Blacks v France 2:

@Canes4life said in All Blacks v France 2:

Anyone got the scoop for this week?

Rieko back to center. Ardie back to No 8. Vaa'i back to lock.

Not sure if a joke or not...

Surely a joke.

MN5

@Canes4life said in All Blacks v France 2:

@MN5 said in All Blacks v France 2:

@Canes4life said in All Blacks v France 2:

Anyone got the scoop for this week?

Yep, check my team. 100% correct. Bet the house on it.

Is that just what you think is going to happen or have you got a source?

No, I like to call it the "broken clock" analogy.

Kiwiwomble

@MN5 said in All Blacks v France 2:

@Bones said in All Blacks v France 2:

@Bones said in All Blacks v France 2:

I will find it very frustrating if there's anything but last week's group with injury changes.

3rd test, have at it.

Actually, I'd be happy to see Vaai go back to lock if Ah Kuoi goes to blindside, but it wouldn't make much sense when you can just throw PT in at lock.

No. Chopping and changing won't do him any good. Let's keep him at six. He's finally become a force at test level and there aren't exactly other options beating down the door at blindside.

i feel like im being gaslit...there seems to be a continuous discussion about things like 12 and 13 are wildly different positions and very few people can learn both....but also lets move people around from one game to another to make sure theyre versatile

Bones

@MN5 said in All Blacks v France 2:

He's finally become a force at test level

You almost had me until this.

Any idea what position he's a force at?

brodean

@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks v France 2:

@MN5 said in All Blacks v France 2:

@Bones said in All Blacks v France 2:

@Bones said in All Blacks v France 2:

I will find it very frustrating if there's anything but last week's group with injury changes.

3rd test, have at it.

Actually, I'd be happy to see Vaai go back to lock if Ah Kuoi goes to blindside, but it wouldn't make much sense when you can just throw PT in at lock.

No. Chopping and changing won't do him any good. Let's keep him at six. He's finally become a force at test level and there aren't exactly other options beating down the door at blindside.

i feel like im being gaslit...there seems to be a continuous discussion about things like 12 and 13 are wildly different positions and very few people can learn both....but also lets move people around from one game to another to make sure theyre versatile

They are a bit different. Some players have the physical attributes, skills and temperament to play both and some don't. I don't think there are many players who are equally good at both. Generally a player will be better at 12 or better at 13.

MN5

@Bones said in All Blacks v France 2:

@MN5 said in All Blacks v France 2:

He's finally become a force at test level

You almost had me until this.

Any idea what position he's a force at?

A force.....competent.....same thing.

Bones

@MN5 said in All Blacks v France 2:

@Bones said in All Blacks v France 2:

@MN5 said in All Blacks v France 2:

He's finally become a force at test level

You almost had me until this.

Any idea what position he's a force at?

A force.....competent.....same thing.

I don't think that's a rugby position.

george33

NZCIS Facebook have put up training photos from today.

ACT Crusader

@gt12 said in All Blacks v France 2:

Yeah, if they want Vaii to have time at 6, bring in Patty T.

If it was accommodating Barrett - which is a bit of an issue - then bring in Finau to start, Pat T off the bench.

Similarly, not sure we learn much with Dmac at 15, so if he’s to be the bench man, leave him there and bring in Clarke or Narawa.

That’s a bit of a myth right there. Razor pretty much flagged from early on that he had options to play a lock at 6. Vaa’i was the obvious choice in my view.

Now that Barrett is injured, which happened during the game and not carried in, we need to bring in the next best lock into the 23 plus someone as cover (which may be one of the lumps that was used in training).

I know this stuff is all in the eye of the beholder, but I actually didn’t mind Finau off the bench last weekend. Did a few good things I thought. I’d keep him in that role unless Vaa’i is all of sudden ruled out.

gt12

@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks v France 2:

@gt12 said in All Blacks v France 2:

Yeah, if they want Vaii to have time at 6, bring in Patty T.

If it was accommodating Barrett - which is a bit of an issue - then bring in Finau to start, Pat T off the bench.

Similarly, not sure we learn much with Dmac at 15, so if he’s to be the bench man, leave him there and bring in Clarke or Narawa.

That’s a bit of a myth right there. Razor pretty much flagged from early on that he had options to play a lock at 6. Vaa’i was the obvious choice in my view.

Now that Barrett is injured, which happened during the game and not carried in, we need to bring in the next best lock into the 23 plus someone as cover (which may be one of the lumps that was used in training).

I know this stuff is all in the eye of the beholder, but I actually didn’t mind Finau off the bench last weekend. Did a few good things I thought. I’d keep him in that role unless Vaa’i is all of sudden ruled out.

That's just it though isn't it, did he flag that because he knows that Vaii was playing better?

If Vaii gets moved this week, we've at least potentially got an issue where he wants to play three locks to protect a captain who may not justify their position.

The Silver Fern

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