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    @SouthernMann For right or for wrong, I'd expect him to be captain which means he basically has to start. I suppose they might use him at 12 as a glue kind of guy.

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    @frugby said in Otago 2025:

    @SouthernMann For right or for wrong, I'd expect him to be captain which means he basically has to start. I suppose they might use him at 12 as a glue kind of guy.

    That would be massively disappointing from a succession planning perspective. He is leaving. He has guys in the positions he plays staying and available. Leadership group, fine. Captain, just stupid. There are a lack of options, but a roadblock is not the right one. Give it to either Haig or Stodart.

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    Side will be announced on Tuesday at a breakfast.

    Jul 9

    ‘Pretty stable’ NPC squad in the works

    ‘Pretty stable’ NPC squad in the works

    Otago rugby fans should not panic if they feel any sense of their NPC team being a little late to the party. Incoming coach Mark Brown has given...

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    @SouthernMann can you copy the text? Thanks

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    @macmanus said in Otago 2025:

    @SouthernMann can you copy the text? Thanks

    Nah. The forum has a policy of not copying text from behind paywalls. ODT subscriptions are only $17 a month. It helps ensure content keeps getting delivered.

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    @SouthernMann sorry, I didn’t know.

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    Paul Dwyer talking about three guys coming in from out of province. Two from Australia and one from Christchurch. Likely filling the obvious holes at lock, midfield and probably outside back.

    Jul 10

    Will there be more surprises?

    Will there be more surprises?

    And then there were four! As can happen in top-six playoffs the top three seeds, Taieri, Dunedin and Varsity, all got beaten to see Dunedin and...

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    Fairly confident the overseas midfielder is Charlie Powell who played for Southland last year.

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    I believe the midfielder from Canterbury is Jae Broomfield. Was Canterbury B player of the year last season and can also cover wing. Very classy player with great turn of pace

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    Now we know

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    Otago squad.

    Jul 14

    Interesting newcomers in stable squad

    Interesting newcomers in stable squad

    A Fijian, an English Stag, a Magpie, a Dragon, an Eel and a Shark walk into a changing room. That is not some sort of obscure joke, but it is the...

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    Holland, Christian Lio-Willie and George Bower are with the All Blacks, and Finn Hurley (quad, 10-12 weeks), Oliver Haig (ankle, 4-6 weeks), Jona Nareki (knee, 4-6 weeks), Josh Whaanga (knee, 6-8 weeks) and Jake Te Hiwi (groin, 4-6 weeks) are sidelined.

    NPC squad

    Hookers: Liam Coltman (Utah Warriors), Henry Bell (Kaikorai), A-One Lolofie (Zingari-Richmond).

    Props: George Bower (Harbour), Benjamin Lopas (Green Island), Saula Ma’u (Harbour), Abraham Pole (Harbour), Moana Takataka (Kaikorai), Rohan Wingham (Dunedin).

    Locks: Fabian Holland (Dunedin), Joseva Tamani (Fijian Drua), Will Tucker (Kaikorai).

    Loose forwards: Lucas Casey (Kaikorai), Max Ratcliffe (Dunedin), Will Stodart (University), Harry Taylor (Southern), Konrad Toleafoa (Southern), Christian Lio-Willie (Kaikorai), Oliver Haig (Green Island).

    Halfbacks: Nathan Hastie (Harbour), Dylan Pledger (Kaikorai), Bob Martin (Taieri).

    First five: Cameron Millar (Taieri).

    Midfield backs: Sam Gilbert (Green Island), Jake Te Hiwi (Green Island), Josh Timu (Southern), Thomas Umaga-Jensen (University), Josh Whaanga (Taieri).

    Outside backs: Jeremiah Asi (University), Finn Hurley (Green Island), Jona Nareki (Alhambra-Union), Charlie Powell (Manly Marlins).

    With all the injured players. There wil be several listed as cover/development players

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    Tengblad has indeed been lost then... had some sauce last week that he was sticking around for this season but clearly that was referring to the Highlanders.

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    @frugby said in Otago 2025:

    Tengblad has indeed been lost then... had some sauce last week that he was sticking around for this season but clearly that was referring to the Highlanders.

    Nah. If you read the article you'd see he is mentioned. Should likely be listed as a development player. Reading between the lines.

    "Lock was always going to be a position of concern now Fabian Holland is virtually certain to be a regular in the All Blacks and New Zealand under-20 giant Josh Tengblad is being developed carefully."

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    @SouthernMann would hope Rique Miln is in as injury cover, he's a 10 but might be able to provide similar dynamic plays to Finn Hurley

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    @Grooter said in Otago 2025:

    @SouthernMann would hope Rique Miln is in as injury cover, he's a 10 but might be able to provide similar dynamic plays to Finn Hurley

    I want to see Miln get some starts at 10. We all now know what Millar can do. Try to see what some of the other options are like.

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    Not naming Tengblad in the full squad is just ridiculous. He can be ‘developed carefully’ in the full squad, he’s clearly up to NPC level. Unless there is some loophole they are utilizing where they can elevate him due to other injuries it doesn’t really make much sense. Same for Kyan Rangitutia. Get your young guys locked in.

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    @frugby said in Otago 2025:

    Tengblad has indeed been lost then... had some sauce last week that he was sticking around for this season but clearly that was referring to the Highlanders.

    This was posted in another thread:

    @Steven-Harris said in Auckland Rugby 2025:

    NZ U20 lock Josh Tengbald has also signed with Auckland but for the 2027 season , will be linking up with the Highlanders for 2026

    The Otago line about him "being developed carefully" is strange. If the above rumour is true they have two years to make use of him. Are they punishing him for moving at a later date?

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    @Duluth said in Otago 2025:

    @frugby said in Otago 2025:

    Tengblad has indeed been lost then... had some sauce last week that he was sticking around for this season but clearly that was referring to the Highlanders.

    This was posted in another thread:

    @Steven-Harris said in Auckland Rugby 2025:

    NZ U20 lock Josh Tengbald has also signed with Auckland but for the 2027 season , will be linking up with the Highlanders for 2026

    The Otago line about him "being developed carefully" is strange. If the above rumour is true they have two years to make use of him. Are they punishing him for moving at a later date?

    Probably a Highlanders directive of don't break our injury prone big man before the start of the Super season by thrashing him every week during the NPC

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    Which could achieved with a normal contract. I know NPC isn't lucrative but I assume a dev contract will pay less

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    @Duluth said in Otago 2025:

    @SouthernMann

    Which could achieved with a normal contract. I know NPC isn't lucrative but I assume a dev contract will pay less

    My understanding is all national U20 players get NPC level contracts anyway.

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