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WR U20 Championship 2025

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  • BovidaeB Bovidae

    Treacy has been really impressive - a huge engine. He won't be a lock going forward due to his height, so back to 6 at higher levels. He has been the main lineout target though, and the lineout hasn't always functioned when he is off the field.

    I haven't seen France yet at the RWC but did see a couple of their games in the 6N U20s. I would think NZ will want to have some size in their pack to match them in the forward exchanges. We could play Sa at 6 and keep Treacy at lock as he has excelled in the tighter role. I doubt the coaches will deviate too much from their pool selections and substitutions which seems to be very pre-planned, e.g., Bason being replaced early in the 2nd half by Fale, and not dependent on the game situation. The back three combination will also be of interest if Simpson remains at fullback.

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    @Bovidae said in WR U20 Championship 2025:

    if Simpson remains at fullback.

    I have such mixed feelings about Simpson at 15. Sometimes I can see the appeal - like when he plucked those Irish cross-kicks out of thin air like it was nothing - but his scramble defence does worry me. And the French transition attack will really test the NZ scramble defence.

    My preference would still go to Solomon, I think. I really like the way he combines with Cole, switching roles and kicking duties. It feels very seamless with them. But it does seem more likely that they'll go with Simpson at the back.

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      If Mathis is on the bench, a 6/2 split could be considered. What worries me most is the scrum where the loss of Wallace has put a big load on Falatea. I also fear that Pole could not match Megherbi's power. Hopefully, there won't be too many scrums played if the weather is not too hot.

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        If Mathis is on the bench, a 6/2 split could be considered. What worries me most is the scrum where the loss of Wallace has put a big load on Falatea. I also fear that Pole could not match Megherbi's power. Hopefully, there won't be too many scrums played if the weather is not too hot.

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        What worries me most is the scrum where the loss of Wallace has put a big load on Falatea. I also fear that Pole could not match Megherbi's power. Hopefully, there won't be too many scrums played if the weather is not too hot.

        Megherbi is a big boy (138+ kg) but his scrummaging technique is awful. When binding, his hips are already pushing outwards while his right shoulder pops up, immediately indicating his intention for angling in and targeting the bind between the opposition loosehead and hooker.

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        You can see how Megherbi’s back isn’t straight but angled in a diagonal fashion

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        Megherbi’s tendency is to scrum high at an inward angle, turning the contest into a battle of strength rather than technique

        https://media3.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExc2tiOGMzMHFlMjRjbDdqYnVhNXQ1anYwbTV4N3N5dXp2NnY4a3VkaCZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/y1JMxdo3z6VRxmK477/giphy.gif
        Megherbi starts at an inward angle and, unsurprisingly, the scrum starts moving sideways with the French pack walking across. Unbelievably, the ref awards the French scrum a penalty despite there being nothing legal about their scrum.

        While Megherbi has a lot of power, any referee worth his salt will first penalize his faulty technique when the scrums inevitably collapse or start moving sideways. The French, much like the South Africans, have the advantage of reputation and physique: they’re big guys so referees often award them in the scrum, even when their dominance has an illegal basis.

        Hopefully, a set-piece capable ref is appointed for the semi-final who can force Megherbi to scrum straight and make it a fair contest.

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          These are the SF refs:

          France v New Zealand - Katsuki Furuse (JRFU)
          South Africa v Argentina - Jérémy Rozier (FFR)

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            brodean
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            I've only been watching mini matches for u20.

            Is Caleb Woodly ready for Super Rugby physically, plus workrate and mentally?

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              https://www.sarugby.co.za/news-features/articles/2025/07/12/junior-boks-name-powerful-line-up-for-wru20-semi-final/

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                https://www.world.rugby/u20/en/match/a1b0612f-884b-4d2d-a1aa-1a941cd300cb

                1 SJ. Uamaki Pole

                2 Manumaua Letiu

                3 Robson Faleafa

                4 Xavier Treacy

                5 Jayden Sa

                6 Finn McLeod

                7 Caleb Woodley

                8 Mosese Bason

                9 Dylan Pledger

                10 Rico Simpson

                11 Maloni Kunawave

                12 Jack Wiseman

                13 Cooper Roberts

                14 Frank Vaenuku

                15 Stanley Solomon

                Substitutes

                16 Eli Oudenryn

                17 Israel Time

                18 Dane Johnston

                19 Aisake Vakasiuola

                20 Micah Fale

                21 Jai Tamati

                23 Tayne Harvey

                23 Harlyn Saunoa

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                  No Will Cole or Ollie Mathis

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                    No Will Cole or Ollie Mathis

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                    @Kiwidom said in WR U20 Championship 2025:

                    No Will Cole or Ollie Mathis

                    No Tengblad either...

                    Well, I'm fully invested in the Rico Simpson redemption arc now.

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                      @Kiwidom said in WR U20 Championship 2025:

                      No Will Cole or Ollie Mathis

                      No Tengblad either...

                      Well, I'm fully invested in the Rico Simpson redemption arc now.

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                      @Mauss Who plays 10 and goal kicks if Rico goes down?

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                        What has happened Ollie Mathis injured or just not selected.

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                          Mathis has to be injured. Strange.

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                            @Mauss Who plays 10 and goal kicks if Rico goes down?

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                            @Daffy-Jaffy said in WR U20 Championship 2025:

                            @Mauss Who plays 10 and goal kicks if Rico goes down?

                            Solomon can play 10, so if Simpson goes down, he would move to first five while Kunawave would go to fullback.

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                                It would be good if the team media releases also included who was unavailable through injury, but no. We rely on the WR commentators for more info.

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                                  Looks like Mathis is injured:

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                                    OomPB
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                                    Looking forward to the semi finals today. France and NZ will play in the heat.

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                                      Why do NZ dont wear their black jerseys against France?

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                                        NZ leading at HT but France look to be the better side. They have been getting scrum dominance and their pack are starting to get on top. Look to be handling the heat a bit better than the NZ team as well. Not winning the final lineout before HT and conceding the try on HT could prove to be costly for NZ. Advantage France imo.

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                                          24-19 to NZ at the half. Anyone's game.

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