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  • boobooB Online
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    As I mentioned above, rulings and interpretations are constantly being reviewed and clarified.

    I fully expected the appropriate branches of the WR bureaucracy to clarify the fuck out of that one.

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    @African-Monkey said in Springboks v Italy II:

    @sparky said in Springboks v Italy II:

    @Bones said in Springboks v Italy II:

    The fuck? Surely intentionally doing that is a penalty?

    SA purposefully ran in front of the kicker at kick off and only kicked it like 2m straight to the guy in front, to force a scrum.

    Here's video of the incident:

    Seriously, what the fuck was the point or that anyway? Clowns.

    What they actually achieved was giving up a free kick from the scrum and thus conceding both territory and possession compared to contesting in the Italian half. It’s brilliant stuff….

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    @Snowy I assume they were.absolutely dealing to thier scrum, otherwise I can't see why.

    Maybe Rassie thinks it is a.dumb rule and thought let's highlight it so WR change it now we used it....

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    @taniwharugby said in Springboks v Italy II:

    @Snowy I assume they were.absolutely dealing to thier scrum, otherwise I can't see why.

    Maybe Rassie thinks it is a.dumb rule and thought let's highlight it so WR change it now we used it....

    No doubt they believed their own press, but they clearly don’t watch enough rugby to know that even a dominant scrum is no guarantee of possession.

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    @taniwharugby said in Springboks v Italy II:

    @Snowy I assume they were.absolutely dealing to thier scrum, otherwise I can't see why.

    Maybe Rassie thinks it is a.dumb rule and thought let's highlight it so WR change it now we used it....

    It was the match kick off! Didn't see the game last week, so assumed they must have been absolutely annihilating the Italian scrum in that game.

    It was pretty funny when you looked back at how pumped the players and Comms were, only to go nowhere and concede a FK.

    The way they were carrying on you would've thought the Italian scrum was going to turn to dust.

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    Rassie coaching staff include an international ref. Paul Roos u19B coach surely would ticked all the boxes before trying it.

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    @OomPB surely.

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    @OomPB said in Springboks v Italy II:

    Rassie coaching staff include an international ref. Paul Roos u19B coach surely would ticked all the boxes before trying it.

    I know the South African translation of the WR Law consists solely and entirely of "Whatever Rassie says". But if you can find the clause in the law book that nullifies Law 9 FOUL PLAY, UNFAIR PLAY 7. A player must not a. Intentionally infringe any law of the game I'd be appreciative.

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    BTW have no issue with the "lineout" move. Just seems a little unnecessary to me.

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    @booboo said in Springboks v Italy II:

    BTW have no issue with the "lineout" move. Just seems a little unnecessary to me.

    Yeah I was just talking shit on that one, no issue, bloody good for a laugh though.

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    Rassie just showing the world how "innovative" he is. A GENIUS I am told.

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  • sparkyS Do not disturb
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    I am not sure why the All Blacks are bothering planning to pick a team for the games against the Springboks in September. Rassie is such a bold and innovative GENIUS that he is certain to win.

    What a very clever Rassie that Rassie man is!

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    @booboo said in Springboks v Italy II:

    BTW have no issue with the "lineout" move. Just seems a little unnecessary to me.

    I think the element of surprise was the biggest facror here. Plus it adds to the legend of Rassie the innovator even though it sounds like it was done by a school team

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    @booboo You cant blame us. We suffered for a very long time under coaches. The fact that Rassie and his coaches are prepared to scan u19C schools games for new ideas are remarkable. Luckily in South Africa all our main schools sport are covered by Super Schools, from u14A-u19H teams.

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    Imagine the collective meltdown amongst New Zealanders if Rassie decided to take a B-side over during the Rugby Championship. Ultimate fuckery, striking while the iron is hot.

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    @Mr-Fish said in Springboks v Italy II:

    Imagine the collective meltdown amongst New Zealanders if Rassie decided to take a B-side over during the Rugby Championship. Ultimate fuckery, striking while the iron is hot.

    It’s only New Zealand….

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    Looks like both moves are soon to be outlawed after discussion with URC head of referees:

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    @PN said in Springboks v Italy II:

    Looks like both moves are soon to be outlawed after discussion with URC head of referees:

    The stupid thing was, the South African player was well off side when they kicked-off and forced a scrum. It should have been a penalty on halfway for Italy.

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    @Canes4life said in Springboks v Italy II:

    @PN said in Springboks v Italy II:

    Looks like both moves are soon to be outlawed after discussion with URC head of referees:

    The stupid thing was, the South African player was well off side when they kicked-off and forced a scrum. It should have been a penalty on halfway for Italy.

    Yeah that's pretty much what all the referees have said on review. The thing is though, the kicker will just kick the ball out on the full to get the same result, and that will be much harder to police whether intentional or not. Even then, with a perceived scrum advantage, is it that big of a deal? Just give the team the option of starting the game with an opponent scrum feed on the 50, or standard kickoff. (Variation in our game is good, I reckon)

    The lifting pod in general play had more of a chance of becoming mainstream if untouched with how effective it is.

    Will be interesting if we see either move again before the wording is amended.

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