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  • SouthernMannS SouthernMann

    @Duluth said in Otago 2025:

    @frugby said in Otago 2025:

    Tengblad has indeed been lost then... had some sauce last week that he was sticking around for this season but clearly that was referring to the Highlanders.

    This was posted in another thread:

    @Steven-Harris said in Auckland Rugby 2025:

    NZ U20 lock Josh Tengbald has also signed with Auckland but for the 2027 season , will be linking up with the Highlanders for 2026

    The Otago line about him "being developed carefully" is strange. If the above rumour is true they have two years to make use of him. Are they punishing him for moving at a later date?

    Probably a Highlanders directive of don't break our injury prone big man before the start of the Super season by thrashing him every week during the NPC

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    @SouthernMann

    Which could achieved with a normal contract. I know NPC isn't lucrative but I assume a dev contract will pay less

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      @SouthernMann

      Which could achieved with a normal contract. I know NPC isn't lucrative but I assume a dev contract will pay less

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      @Duluth said in Otago 2025:

      @SouthernMann

      Which could achieved with a normal contract. I know NPC isn't lucrative but I assume a dev contract will pay less

      My understanding is all national U20 players get NPC level contracts anyway.

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      • SouthernMannS SouthernMann

        @Duluth said in Otago 2025:

        @frugby said in Otago 2025:

        Tengblad has indeed been lost then... had some sauce last week that he was sticking around for this season but clearly that was referring to the Highlanders.

        This was posted in another thread:

        @Steven-Harris said in Auckland Rugby 2025:

        NZ U20 lock Josh Tengbald has also signed with Auckland but for the 2027 season , will be linking up with the Highlanders for 2026

        The Otago line about him "being developed carefully" is strange. If the above rumour is true they have two years to make use of him. Are they punishing him for moving at a later date?

        Probably a Highlanders directive of don't break our injury prone big man before the start of the Super season by thrashing him every week during the NPC

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        @SouthernMann said in Otago 2025:

        @Duluth said in Otago 2025:

        @frugby said in Otago 2025:

        Tengblad has indeed been lost then... had some sauce last week that he was sticking around for this season but clearly that was referring to the Highlanders.

        This was posted in another thread:

        @Steven-Harris said in Auckland Rugby 2025:

        NZ U20 lock Josh Tengbald has also signed with Auckland but for the 2027 season , will be linking up with the Highlanders for 2026

        The Otago line about him "being developed carefully" is strange. If the above rumour is true they have two years to make use of him. Are they punishing him for moving at a later date?

        Probably a Highlanders directive of don't break our injury prone big man before the start of the Super season by thrashing him every week during the NPC

        That’s possible but I hope not. He needs NPC time before being thrown into Super rugby, especially in the tight 5. Would be counter productive in my opinion.

        Like I said above, there has to be some loophole here or else it just doesn’t make sense at all…

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          @frugby said in Otago 2025:

          Tengblad has indeed been lost then... had some sauce last week that he was sticking around for this season but clearly that was referring to the Highlanders.

          This was posted in another thread:

          @Steven-Harris said in Auckland Rugby 2025:

          NZ U20 lock Josh Tengbald has also signed with Auckland but for the 2027 season , will be linking up with the Highlanders for 2026

          The Otago line about him "being developed carefully" is strange. If the above rumour is true they have two years to make use of him. Are they punishing him for moving at a later date?

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          @Duluth said in Otago 2025:

          @frugby said in Otago 2025:

          Tengblad has indeed been lost then... had some sauce last week that he was sticking around for this season but clearly that was referring to the Highlanders.

          This was posted in another thread:

          @Steven-Harris said in Auckland Rugby 2025:

          NZ U20 lock Josh Tengbald has also signed with Auckland but for the 2027 season , will be linking up with the Highlanders for 2026

          The Otago line about him "being developed carefully" is strange. If the above rumour is true they have two years to make use of him. Are they punishing him for moving at a later date?

          I think this rumour is definitely true, hence why everyone heard he was leaving (clearly he just isn’t leaving yet)

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          • frugbyF frugby

            @Duluth said in Otago 2025:

            @frugby said in Otago 2025:

            Tengblad has indeed been lost then... had some sauce last week that he was sticking around for this season but clearly that was referring to the Highlanders.

            This was posted in another thread:

            @Steven-Harris said in Auckland Rugby 2025:

            NZ U20 lock Josh Tengbald has also signed with Auckland but for the 2027 season , will be linking up with the Highlanders for 2026

            The Otago line about him "being developed carefully" is strange. If the above rumour is true they have two years to make use of him. Are they punishing him for moving at a later date?

            I think this rumour is definitely true, hence why everyone heard he was leaving (clearly he just isn’t leaving yet)

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            @frugby said in Otago 2025:

            @Duluth said in Otago 2025:

            @frugby said in Otago 2025:

            Tengblad has indeed been lost then... had some sauce last week that he was sticking around for this season but clearly that was referring to the Highlanders.

            This was posted in another thread:

            @Steven-Harris said in Auckland Rugby 2025:

            NZ U20 lock Josh Tengbald has also signed with Auckland but for the 2027 season , will be linking up with the Highlanders for 2026

            The Otago line about him "being developed carefully" is strange. If the above rumour is true they have two years to make use of him. Are they punishing him for moving at a later date?

            I think this rumour is definitely true, hence why everyone heard he was leaving (clearly he just isn’t leaving yet)

            Yeah. Well Steve Harris has been saying will depart in 2027

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              This whole squad feels like talent mismanagement. What happened to Ale Aho - he's gone from hugely promising prospect to MIA. Reuben Palmer was on a national development contract and is nowhere to be seen. No Tengblad to pure madness which feels like the Hotham situation all over again. Quentin Holland presumably should have been in the frame. While No Rangitura feels just dumb, especially after the season he had last year. Stan Mclurie is another prospect who seems to have gone missing too.

              It's hard to understand how Otago is SO bad to developing talent.

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              • H handa457

                This whole squad feels like talent mismanagement. What happened to Ale Aho - he's gone from hugely promising prospect to MIA. Reuben Palmer was on a national development contract and is nowhere to be seen. No Tengblad to pure madness which feels like the Hotham situation all over again. Quentin Holland presumably should have been in the frame. While No Rangitura feels just dumb, especially after the season he had last year. Stan Mclurie is another prospect who seems to have gone missing too.

                It's hard to understand how Otago is SO bad to developing talent.

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                @handa457 I think developing talent is fine. It’s how they are handling them once they reach certain levels.

                Here’s hoping we see some injury cover updates and a lot of these guys added. I’ll ask around.

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                • H handa457

                  This whole squad feels like talent mismanagement. What happened to Ale Aho - he's gone from hugely promising prospect to MIA. Reuben Palmer was on a national development contract and is nowhere to be seen. No Tengblad to pure madness which feels like the Hotham situation all over again. Quentin Holland presumably should have been in the frame. While No Rangitura feels just dumb, especially after the season he had last year. Stan Mclurie is another prospect who seems to have gone missing too.

                  It's hard to understand how Otago is SO bad to developing talent.

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                  @handa457 Aho went to Aust (NSW).

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                    I believe the midfielder from Canterbury is Jae Broomfield. Was Canterbury B player of the year last season and can also cover wing. Very classy player with great turn of pace

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                    @Fredsaua12 said in Otago 2025:

                    I believe the midfielder from Canterbury is Jae Broomfield. Was Canterbury B player of the year last season and can also cover wing. Very classy player with great turn of pace

                    Following up on my oil here, I believe Jae was offered a contract but it wasn't taken up. unsure on whether he will end up with Canterbury or elsewhere. Trying to find more info now

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                    • BovidaeB Bovidae

                      @handa457 Aho went to Aust (NSW).

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                      @Bovidae he did. But didn't someone say he got dropped from Tah's on here? Feels like there's a bit of a story there. He was a massive unit, and you have to feel highlanders would have been interested in a 135kg lock.

                      Interested if anyone has the inside word on what happened, and where he landed?

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                        @Bovidae he did. But didn't someone say he got dropped from Tah's on here? Feels like there's a bit of a story there. He was a massive unit, and you have to feel highlanders would have been interested in a 135kg lock.

                        Interested if anyone has the inside word on what happened, and where he landed?

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                        @handa457 said in Otago 2025:

                        Interested if anyone has the inside word on what happened, and where he landed?

                        As Bovidae posted, he’s in NSW. Linked up with the Waratahs and is playing in the Shute Shield.

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                        • H handa457

                          This whole squad feels like talent mismanagement. What happened to Ale Aho - he's gone from hugely promising prospect to MIA. Reuben Palmer was on a national development contract and is nowhere to be seen. No Tengblad to pure madness which feels like the Hotham situation all over again. Quentin Holland presumably should have been in the frame. While No Rangitura feels just dumb, especially after the season he had last year. Stan Mclurie is another prospect who seems to have gone missing too.

                          It's hard to understand how Otago is SO bad to developing talent.

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                          @handa457 said in Otago 2025:

                          This whole squad feels like talent mismanagement. What happened to Ale Aho - he's gone from hugely promising prospect to MIA. Reuben Palmer was on a national development contract and is nowhere to be seen. No Tengblad to pure madness which feels like the Hotham situation all over again. Quentin Holland presumably should have been in the frame. While No Rangitura feels just dumb, especially after the season he had last year. Stan Mclurie is another prospect who seems to have gone missing too.

                          It's hard to understand how Otago is SO bad to developing talent.

                          stan mcure did a knee training with otago npc last year and has not played this year as he recovers

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                            Have thought about how the Union has gone about things since it dropped the squad this morning. And have a few thoughts

                            • A part from the ring ins. The rest of the squad was confirmed months ago

                            • We wouldn't be able to strip a fit team out of the named squad.

                            • not naming the back up players diminishes the likely significant role they are likely going to play in the campaign

                            • the current named group lacks balance. We have no back up 10. No fullback, and like the Highlanders, only two locks.

                            • Almost reads as if there was little wiggle room around adding additional guys.

                            Nothing against the guys who are named. Injuries sadly will be impacting several of our key guys.

                            The lads I'm hoping will get a good go are A one Lolofie, Lucas Casey, Konrad Toleafoa and Dylan Pledger.

                            While Nareki, Te Hiwi, Whaanga, Haig and fingers crossed Hurley will be champing at the bit if they can recover from their injuries.

                            I'm also hopeful we see the likes of Rique Miln, big Tengblad, Christian MacEwan and Kyan Rangitutia. It would be disappointing if Rangitutia got a decent run last year and not seen this season.

                            Much more pessimistic this year than last.

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                              Hi everyone, just got put onto this forum by a work colleague here in Dunedin. Great to see people actually talk about this stuff, been a long time sufferer relying on the Roar for rugby chat.

                              Seems like it might be another season of hurt unless everyone can stay 100% fit. 10 and lock remain massive issues, particularly if Holland is out on All Black duty. Shoe horning Haig in seems like a waste. Will be interesting to see who the captain is

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                                Hurley being gone for the season is a blow for us, but Gilbert is a very tidy 15 at NPC level - to say we have no fullback is harsh. Ditto, to say 10 is an issue I think is equally harsh. At NPC level, Cam Millar is a very good first five - getting a run of games will probably do him a world of good. Accounting for injuries, here is what we could look like v the Stags in R1:

                                1. Lopas
                                2. Bell
                                3. Ma'u
                                4. Tamani
                                5. Tucker
                                6. Toleafoa
                                7. Casey
                                8. Stodart
                                9. Hastie
                                10. Millar
                                11. Asi
                                12. Umaga-Jensen
                                13. Timu
                                14. Powell
                                15. Gilbert
                                16. Coltman
                                17. Pole
                                18. Wingham
                                19. ?
                                20. Taylor
                                21. Pledger
                                22. ?
                                23. ?
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                                • frugbyF frugby

                                  Hurley being gone for the season is a blow for us, but Gilbert is a very tidy 15 at NPC level - to say we have no fullback is harsh. Ditto, to say 10 is an issue I think is equally harsh. At NPC level, Cam Millar is a very good first five - getting a run of games will probably do him a world of good. Accounting for injuries, here is what we could look like v the Stags in R1:

                                  1. Lopas
                                  2. Bell
                                  3. Ma'u
                                  4. Tamani
                                  5. Tucker
                                  6. Toleafoa
                                  7. Casey
                                  8. Stodart
                                  9. Hastie
                                  10. Millar
                                  11. Asi
                                  12. Umaga-Jensen
                                  13. Timu
                                  14. Powell
                                  15. Gilbert
                                  16. Coltman
                                  17. Pole
                                  18. Wingham
                                  19. ?
                                  20. Taylor
                                  21. Pledger
                                  22. ?
                                  23. ?
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                                  @frugby in fairness...he said no BACK UP 10...

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                                    @frugby in fairness...he said no BACK UP 10...

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                                    @Kiwiwomble said in Otago 2025:

                                    @frugby in fairness...he said no BACK UP 10...

                                    Cheers for that. If he read the post properly it would have blunted his swipe a bit.

                                    I stand by what I wrote yesterday. The fact the team listed above has question marks instead of options is reflective of the issues with the squad that was named yesterday.

                                    I'd change that pack around a bit. I do not want to see Coltman there unless we have to. So same front row. Then

                                    Stodart and Tucker at lock. With Casey, Taylor and Toleafoa in the loose.

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                                    • SouthernMannS SouthernMann

                                      @Kiwiwomble said in Otago 2025:

                                      @frugby in fairness...he said no BACK UP 10...

                                      Cheers for that. If he read the post properly it would have blunted his swipe a bit.

                                      I stand by what I wrote yesterday. The fact the team listed above has question marks instead of options is reflective of the issues with the squad that was named yesterday.

                                      I'd change that pack around a bit. I do not want to see Coltman there unless we have to. So same front row. Then

                                      Stodart and Tucker at lock. With Casey, Taylor and Toleafoa in the loose.

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                                      @SouthernMann said in Otago 2025:

                                      @Kiwiwomble said in Otago 2025:

                                      @frugby in fairness...he said no BACK UP 10...

                                      Cheers for that. If he read the post properly it would have blunted his swipe a bit.

                                      I stand by what I wrote yesterday. The fact the team listed above has question marks instead of options is reflective of the issues with the squad that was named yesterday.

                                      I'd change that pack around a bit. I do not want to see Coltman there unless we have to. So same front row. Then

                                      Stodart and Tucker at lock. With Casey, Taylor and Toleafoa in the loose.

                                      There’s two posts mate. Was referring to the other one which said 10 is an issue

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                                        @SouthernMann said in Otago 2025:

                                        @Kiwiwomble said in Otago 2025:

                                        @frugby in fairness...he said no BACK UP 10...

                                        Cheers for that. If he read the post properly it would have blunted his swipe a bit.

                                        I stand by what I wrote yesterday. The fact the team listed above has question marks instead of options is reflective of the issues with the squad that was named yesterday.

                                        I'd change that pack around a bit. I do not want to see Coltman there unless we have to. So same front row. Then

                                        Stodart and Tucker at lock. With Casey, Taylor and Toleafoa in the loose.

                                        There’s two posts mate. Was referring to the other one which said 10 is an issue

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                                        @frugby in that case i would saying only having one proper 10 is an issue

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                                          @SouthernMann said in Otago 2025:

                                          @Kiwiwomble said in Otago 2025:

                                          @frugby in fairness...he said no BACK UP 10...

                                          Cheers for that. If he read the post properly it would have blunted his swipe a bit.

                                          I stand by what I wrote yesterday. The fact the team listed above has question marks instead of options is reflective of the issues with the squad that was named yesterday.

                                          I'd change that pack around a bit. I do not want to see Coltman there unless we have to. So same front row. Then

                                          Stodart and Tucker at lock. With Casey, Taylor and Toleafoa in the loose.

                                          There’s two posts mate. Was referring to the other one which said 10 is an issue

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                                          @frugby said in Otago 2025:

                                          @SouthernMann said in Otago 2025:

                                          @Kiwiwomble said in Otago 2025:

                                          @frugby in fairness...he said no BACK UP 10...

                                          Cheers for that. If he read the post properly it would have blunted his swipe a bit.

                                          I stand by what I wrote yesterday. The fact the team listed above has question marks instead of options is reflective of the issues with the squad that was named yesterday.

                                          I'd change that pack around a bit. I do not want to see Coltman there unless we have to. So same front row. Then

                                          Stodart and Tucker at lock. With Casey, Taylor and Toleafoa in the loose.

                                          There’s two posts mate. Was referring to the other one which said 10 is an issue

                                          I meant 10 is an issue if Millar goes down injured. The same way lock “isn’t an issue” Holland can play and there aren’t any injuries. The lack of cover is an issue, particularly if Hurley is out. Gilbert shifts to 10 then who plays fullback? That’s definitely an issue wouldn’t you say?

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