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Wallabies v Lions I

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  • Canes4lifeC Online
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    #13

    Why would you start Harry Potter (normally a right winger) on the left wing and Jorgenson (normally a left winger) on the right? Pollard, Bell and McDermott should be starting all day long and the obvious loss of Valetini is massive.

    Lions by plenty.

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      Schmidt is a wiley operator, I wouldn't be surprised if some posts might need to be climbed down a bit after the game.

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        #15

        Joseph-Aukuso Sua'ali'i is probably the only Aussie noticeably better than his opposite. Superstar in the making.

        Gutted for DVDM and Kinghorn.

        @MiketheSnow hope you can support them despite no Welshmen in there.

        Lions by about 30 I reckon.

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        • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

          Why would you start Harry Potter (normally a right winger) on the left wing and Jorgenson (normally a left winger) on the right? Pollard, Bell and McDermott should be starting all day long and the obvious loss of Valetini is massive.

          Lions by plenty.

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          @Canes4life said in Wallabies v Lions I:

          McDermott should be starting all day long

          Yeah no. His kicking game ain't good enough. Best suited to the bench

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          • KiwiMurphK Online
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            #17

            Names on the back of the Wallaby jerseys

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            • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

              @Canes4life said in Wallabies v Lions I:

              McDermott should be starting all day long

              Yeah no. His kicking game ain't good enough. Best suited to the bench

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              @KiwiMurph said in Wallabies v Lions I:

              @Canes4life said in Wallabies v Lions I:

              McDermott should be starting all day long

              Yeah no. His kicking game ain't good enough. Best suited to the bench

              Disagree, he's been the best halfback in Aus by some distance this year IMO, I thought his kicking improved quite a lot this year compared to previous seasons. Him starting alongside Lynagh who is a rookie in such a big test would have been the better way to go. Gordon is very hit and miss.

              Overall, I think the Wallabies look very disjointed. Pollard and Bell should be starting, and I'd argue Skelton's size in the pack would have helped them muscle up. I just can't see them winning but hopefully I'm proven wrong.

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              • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                @KiwiMurph said in Wallabies v Lions I:

                @Canes4life said in Wallabies v Lions I:

                McDermott should be starting all day long

                Yeah no. His kicking game ain't good enough. Best suited to the bench

                Disagree, he's been the best halfback in Aus by some distance this year IMO, I thought his kicking improved quite a lot this year compared to previous seasons. Him starting alongside Lynagh who is a rookie in such a big test would have been the better way to go. Gordon is very hit and miss.

                Overall, I think the Wallabies look very disjointed. Pollard and Bell should be starting, and I'd argue Skelton's size in the pack would have helped them muscle up. I just can't see them winning but hopefully I'm proven wrong.

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                @Canes4life said in Wallabies v Lions I:

                @KiwiMurph said in Wallabies v Lions I:

                @Canes4life said in Wallabies v Lions I:

                McDermott should be starting all day long

                Yeah no. His kicking game ain't good enough. Best suited to the bench

                Disagree, he's been the best halfback in Aus by some distance this year IMO, I thought his kicking improved quite a lot this year compared to previous seasons. Him starting alongside Lynagh who is a rookie in such a big test would have been the better way to go. Gordon is very hit and miss.

                Overall, I think the Wallabies look very disjointed. Pollard and Bell should be starting, and I'd argue Skelton's size in the pack would have helped them muscle up. I just can't see them winning but hopefully I'm proven wrong.

                They probably want Gordon to control the game with his boot like Roigard did in the first half last week.

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                  #20

                  Friends who went said it was a great evening with a tremendous atmosphere

                  Farrell totally vindicated with his selections of Beirne and Curry in the back row

                  Beirne got MOTM but I would have given it to Curry

                  Excellent, dominant first half from the Lions and should have kicked on to give the Wallabies a real pasting in the second half

                  But personnel changes gave the Aussies a sniff and they were like 50 year olds at the Oasis reunion gigs, didn’t need a second invitation to have a go

                  There is no way on God’s Green Earth that Earl had arms in that tackle

                  Should have been Penalty (possibly Penalty Try) and YC

                  12-24 with Earl in the bin from the 60th - 70th minutes is a very different game

                  Lowe, Keenan, and Freeman the only realistic changes for the second test

                  With possibly Morgan or Pollock on the bench instead of Earl

                  If Schmidt has his thinking cap on this week and the Italian ref wants to penalise the Lions offsides and repeated killing of the ball in their own 22 it could be a very interesting second match

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                    #21

                    I was really surprised how soft the Wallabies looked, they were getting dominated for the first 50mins. Only some awesome work in the air from their winger keeping the score close.

                    Lions did fade pretty badly though, and O'Thief was up to his usual standard with just bizarre calls. The no arms tackle being an obvious one. But the crap he let go at the ruck slowed the game down, so much.

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                    • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                      Friends who went said it was a great evening with a tremendous atmosphere

                      Farrell totally vindicated with his selections of Beirne and Curry in the back row

                      Beirne got MOTM but I would have given it to Curry

                      Excellent, dominant first half from the Lions and should have kicked on to give the Wallabies a real pasting in the second half

                      But personnel changes gave the Aussies a sniff and they were like 50 year olds at the Oasis reunion gigs, didn’t need a second invitation to have a go

                      There is no way on God’s Green Earth that Earl had arms in that tackle

                      Should have been Penalty (possibly Penalty Try) and YC

                      12-24 with Earl in the bin from the 60th - 70th minutes is a very different game

                      Lowe, Keenan, and Freeman the only realistic changes for the second test

                      With possibly Morgan or Pollock on the bench instead of Earl

                      If Schmidt has his thinking cap on this week and the Italian ref wants to penalise the Lions offsides and repeated killing of the ball in their own 22 it could be a very interesting second match

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                      @MiketheSnow said in Wallabies v Lions I:

                      There is no way on God’s Green Earth that Earl had arms in that tackle

                      Yeah, a guy moving forward brushing up against the arm after hitting the shoulder doesn't mean it was legal. That was the definition of grass cutter and should have been YC at the very least. Aus player was very lucky not to get Tupaeaed.

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                      • BonesB Offline
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                        Oh and fuck you for being down, fern. I had to argue with my brother about it who insisted that ruling only applies to clear outs and not tackles even after being shown the law about tackles.

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                          Absolute moral victory for the wallabies. 3 tries each, only lose by 8 despite being dominated all over the park.

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                          • B brodean

                            @Canes4life said in Wallabies v Lions I:

                            @KiwiMurph said in Wallabies v Lions I:

                            @Canes4life said in Wallabies v Lions I:

                            McDermott should be starting all day long

                            Yeah no. His kicking game ain't good enough. Best suited to the bench

                            Disagree, he's been the best halfback in Aus by some distance this year IMO, I thought his kicking improved quite a lot this year compared to previous seasons. Him starting alongside Lynagh who is a rookie in such a big test would have been the better way to go. Gordon is very hit and miss.

                            Overall, I think the Wallabies look very disjointed. Pollard and Bell should be starting, and I'd argue Skelton's size in the pack would have helped them muscle up. I just can't see them winning but hopefully I'm proven wrong.

                            They probably want Gordon to control the game with his boot like Roigard did in the first half last week.

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                            @brodean said in Wallabies v Lions I:

                            @Canes4life said in Wallabies v Lions I:

                            @KiwiMurph said in Wallabies v Lions I:

                            @Canes4life said in Wallabies v Lions I:

                            McDermott should be starting all day long

                            Yeah no. His kicking game ain't good enough. Best suited to the bench

                            Disagree, he's been the best halfback in Aus by some distance this year IMO, I thought his kicking improved quite a lot this year compared to previous seasons. Him starting alongside Lynagh who is a rookie in such a big test would have been the better way to go. Gordon is very hit and miss.

                            Overall, I think the Wallabies look very disjointed. Pollard and Bell should be starting, and I'd argue Skelton's size in the pack would have helped them muscle up. I just can't see them winning but hopefully I'm proven wrong.

                            They probably want Gordon to control the game with his boot like Roigard did in the first half last week.

                            Fair to say Gordon did not control the game well. He was woeful. Tate offered so much more coming off the bench.

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                              Think Lynagh has a bright future in green & gold

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                              • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                @brodean said in Wallabies v Lions I:

                                @Canes4life said in Wallabies v Lions I:

                                @KiwiMurph said in Wallabies v Lions I:

                                @Canes4life said in Wallabies v Lions I:

                                McDermott should be starting all day long

                                Yeah no. His kicking game ain't good enough. Best suited to the bench

                                Disagree, he's been the best halfback in Aus by some distance this year IMO, I thought his kicking improved quite a lot this year compared to previous seasons. Him starting alongside Lynagh who is a rookie in such a big test would have been the better way to go. Gordon is very hit and miss.

                                Overall, I think the Wallabies look very disjointed. Pollard and Bell should be starting, and I'd argue Skelton's size in the pack would have helped them muscle up. I just can't see them winning but hopefully I'm proven wrong.

                                They probably want Gordon to control the game with his boot like Roigard did in the first half last week.

                                Fair to say Gordon did not control the game well. He was woeful. Tate offered so much more coming off the bench.

                                KiwiMurphK Online
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                                @Canes4life said in Wallabies v Lions I:

                                @brodean said in Wallabies v Lions I:

                                @Canes4life said in Wallabies v Lions I:

                                @KiwiMurph said in Wallabies v Lions I:

                                @Canes4life said in Wallabies v Lions I:

                                McDermott should be starting all day long

                                Yeah no. His kicking game ain't good enough. Best suited to the bench

                                Disagree, he's been the best halfback in Aus by some distance this year IMO, I thought his kicking improved quite a lot this year compared to previous seasons. Him starting alongside Lynagh who is a rookie in such a big test would have been the better way to go. Gordon is very hit and miss.

                                Overall, I think the Wallabies look very disjointed. Pollard and Bell should be starting, and I'd argue Skelton's size in the pack would have helped them muscle up. I just can't see them winning but hopefully I'm proven wrong.

                                They probably want Gordon to control the game with his boot like Roigard did in the first half last week.

                                Fair to say Gordon did not control the game well. He was woeful. Tate offered so much more coming off the bench.

                                The conundrum is - Tate has been tried as a starter for the Wallabies before and it doesn't translate. He's best suited for the bench.

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                                • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                  @Canes4life said in Wallabies v Lions I:

                                  @brodean said in Wallabies v Lions I:

                                  @Canes4life said in Wallabies v Lions I:

                                  @KiwiMurph said in Wallabies v Lions I:

                                  @Canes4life said in Wallabies v Lions I:

                                  McDermott should be starting all day long

                                  Yeah no. His kicking game ain't good enough. Best suited to the bench

                                  Disagree, he's been the best halfback in Aus by some distance this year IMO, I thought his kicking improved quite a lot this year compared to previous seasons. Him starting alongside Lynagh who is a rookie in such a big test would have been the better way to go. Gordon is very hit and miss.

                                  Overall, I think the Wallabies look very disjointed. Pollard and Bell should be starting, and I'd argue Skelton's size in the pack would have helped them muscle up. I just can't see them winning but hopefully I'm proven wrong.

                                  They probably want Gordon to control the game with his boot like Roigard did in the first half last week.

                                  Fair to say Gordon did not control the game well. He was woeful. Tate offered so much more coming off the bench.

                                  The conundrum is - Tate has been tried as a starter for the Wallabies before and it doesn't translate. He's best suited for the bench.

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                                  @KiwiMurph said in Wallabies v Lions I:

                                  @Canes4life said in Wallabies v Lions I:

                                  @brodean said in Wallabies v Lions I:

                                  @Canes4life said in Wallabies v Lions I:

                                  @KiwiMurph said in Wallabies v Lions I:

                                  @Canes4life said in Wallabies v Lions I:

                                  McDermott should be starting all day long

                                  Yeah no. His kicking game ain't good enough. Best suited to the bench

                                  Disagree, he's been the best halfback in Aus by some distance this year IMO, I thought his kicking improved quite a lot this year compared to previous seasons. Him starting alongside Lynagh who is a rookie in such a big test would have been the better way to go. Gordon is very hit and miss.

                                  Overall, I think the Wallabies look very disjointed. Pollard and Bell should be starting, and I'd argue Skelton's size in the pack would have helped them muscle up. I just can't see them winning but hopefully I'm proven wrong.

                                  They probably want Gordon to control the game with his boot like Roigard did in the first half last week.

                                  Fair to say Gordon did not control the game well. He was woeful. Tate offered so much more coming off the bench.

                                  The conundrum is - Tate has been tried as a starter for the Wallabies before and it doesn't translate. He's best suited for the bench.

                                  Yeah I agree but then again I thought he had the best season he’s ever had at Super level so maybe worth a shot? The Wallabies aren’t going to beat the Lions at their own game, they need to chance their arm more.

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                                    The Wallaby locks looked lightweight in this game. Williams tries but is undersized and Frost's lean frame meant he was regularly dominated in the tackle. Schmidt will be wanting Skelton back to provide some bulk. And Valetini, of course.

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                                    • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                                      Friends who went said it was a great evening with a tremendous atmosphere

                                      Farrell totally vindicated with his selections of Beirne and Curry in the back row

                                      Beirne got MOTM but I would have given it to Curry

                                      Excellent, dominant first half from the Lions and should have kicked on to give the Wallabies a real pasting in the second half

                                      But personnel changes gave the Aussies a sniff and they were like 50 year olds at the Oasis reunion gigs, didn’t need a second invitation to have a go

                                      There is no way on God’s Green Earth that Earl had arms in that tackle

                                      Should have been Penalty (possibly Penalty Try) and YC

                                      12-24 with Earl in the bin from the 60th - 70th minutes is a very different game

                                      Lowe, Keenan, and Freeman the only realistic changes for the second test

                                      With possibly Morgan or Pollock on the bench instead of Earl

                                      If Schmidt has his thinking cap on this week and the Italian ref wants to penalise the Lions offsides and repeated killing of the ball in their own 22 it could be a very interesting second match

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                                      @MiketheSnow said in Wallabies v Lions I:

                                      Friends who went said it was a great evening with a tremendous atmosphere

                                      Farrell totally vindicated with his selections of Beirne and Curry in the back row

                                      Beirne got MOTM but I would have given it to Curry

                                      Excellent, dominant first half from the Lions and should have kicked on to give the Wallabies a real pasting in the second half

                                      But personnel changes gave the Aussies a sniff and they were like 50 year olds at the Oasis reunion gigs, didn’t need a second invitation to have a go

                                      There is no way on God’s Green Earth that Earl had arms in that tackle

                                      Should have been Penalty (possibly Penalty Try) and YC

                                      12-24 with Earl in the bin from the 60th - 70th minutes is a very different game

                                      Lowe, Keenan, and Freeman the only realistic changes for the second test

                                      With possibly Morgan or Pollock on the bench instead of Earl

                                      If Schmidt has his thinking cap on this week and the Italian ref wants to penalise the Lions offsides and repeated killing of the ball in their own 22 it could be a very interesting second match

                                      Back three all had pretty average games which there’s no real excuse for when your forwards are that dominant.

                                      As for the Earl tackle, surprised he got away with it but wouldn’t necessarily blame BOK, the TMO was categorical that there were arms in the tackle and it was fine, BOK checked on a number of occasions but was shut down.

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                                      • DodgeD Dodge

                                        @MiketheSnow said in Wallabies v Lions I:

                                        Friends who went said it was a great evening with a tremendous atmosphere

                                        Farrell totally vindicated with his selections of Beirne and Curry in the back row

                                        Beirne got MOTM but I would have given it to Curry

                                        Excellent, dominant first half from the Lions and should have kicked on to give the Wallabies a real pasting in the second half

                                        But personnel changes gave the Aussies a sniff and they were like 50 year olds at the Oasis reunion gigs, didn’t need a second invitation to have a go

                                        There is no way on God’s Green Earth that Earl had arms in that tackle

                                        Should have been Penalty (possibly Penalty Try) and YC

                                        12-24 with Earl in the bin from the 60th - 70th minutes is a very different game

                                        Lowe, Keenan, and Freeman the only realistic changes for the second test

                                        With possibly Morgan or Pollock on the bench instead of Earl

                                        If Schmidt has his thinking cap on this week and the Italian ref wants to penalise the Lions offsides and repeated killing of the ball in their own 22 it could be a very interesting second match

                                        Back three all had pretty average games which there’s no real excuse for when your forwards are that dominant.

                                        As for the Earl tackle, surprised he got away with it but wouldn’t necessarily blame BOK, the TMO was categorical that there were arms in the tackle and it was fine, BOK checked on a number of occasions but was shut down.

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                                        @Dodge yeah, think VDM would have offered a heck of a lot more than Lowe, he was pretty yuck.

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                                          @Dodge yeah, think VDM would have offered a heck of a lot more than Lowe, he was pretty yuck.

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                                          @Bones

                                          Lowe has looked a bit, hungus I think is the term. Not looking to put anyone else away if he's within 20m of the try line. He's butchered a few clear cut chances in previous games too.

                                          Freeman started well but faded and didn't get brought into teh game and sadly didn't go looking too hard for work. Keenan still not 100% and looks underweight. It will be interesting to see how Kinghorn goes tomorrow.

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