Wallabies v Lions I
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I was really surprised how soft the Wallabies looked, they were getting dominated for the first 50mins. Only some awesome work in the air from their winger keeping the score close.
Lions did fade pretty badly though, and O'Thief was up to his usual standard with just bizarre calls. The no arms tackle being an obvious one. But the crap he let go at the ruck slowed the game down, so much.
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@MiketheSnow said in Wallabies v Lions I:
There is no way on God’s Green Earth that Earl had arms in that tackle
Yeah, a guy moving forward brushing up against the arm after hitting the shoulder doesn't mean it was legal. That was the definition of grass cutter and should have been YC at the very least. Aus player was very lucky not to get Tupaeaed.
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Absolute moral victory for the wallabies. 3 tries each, only lose by 8 despite being dominated all over the park.
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@brodean said in Wallabies v Lions I:
@Canes4life said in Wallabies v Lions I:
@KiwiMurph said in Wallabies v Lions I:
@Canes4life said in Wallabies v Lions I:
McDermott should be starting all day long
Yeah no. His kicking game ain't good enough. Best suited to the bench
Disagree, he's been the best halfback in Aus by some distance this year IMO, I thought his kicking improved quite a lot this year compared to previous seasons. Him starting alongside Lynagh who is a rookie in such a big test would have been the better way to go. Gordon is very hit and miss.
Overall, I think the Wallabies look very disjointed. Pollard and Bell should be starting, and I'd argue Skelton's size in the pack would have helped them muscle up. I just can't see them winning but hopefully I'm proven wrong.
They probably want Gordon to control the game with his boot like Roigard did in the first half last week.
Fair to say Gordon did not control the game well. He was woeful. Tate offered so much more coming off the bench.
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Think Lynagh has a bright future in green & gold
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@Canes4life said in Wallabies v Lions I:
@brodean said in Wallabies v Lions I:
@Canes4life said in Wallabies v Lions I:
@KiwiMurph said in Wallabies v Lions I:
@Canes4life said in Wallabies v Lions I:
McDermott should be starting all day long
Yeah no. His kicking game ain't good enough. Best suited to the bench
Disagree, he's been the best halfback in Aus by some distance this year IMO, I thought his kicking improved quite a lot this year compared to previous seasons. Him starting alongside Lynagh who is a rookie in such a big test would have been the better way to go. Gordon is very hit and miss.
Overall, I think the Wallabies look very disjointed. Pollard and Bell should be starting, and I'd argue Skelton's size in the pack would have helped them muscle up. I just can't see them winning but hopefully I'm proven wrong.
They probably want Gordon to control the game with his boot like Roigard did in the first half last week.
Fair to say Gordon did not control the game well. He was woeful. Tate offered so much more coming off the bench.
The conundrum is - Tate has been tried as a starter for the Wallabies before and it doesn't translate. He's best suited for the bench.
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@KiwiMurph said in Wallabies v Lions I:
@Canes4life said in Wallabies v Lions I:
@brodean said in Wallabies v Lions I:
@Canes4life said in Wallabies v Lions I:
@KiwiMurph said in Wallabies v Lions I:
@Canes4life said in Wallabies v Lions I:
McDermott should be starting all day long
Yeah no. His kicking game ain't good enough. Best suited to the bench
Disagree, he's been the best halfback in Aus by some distance this year IMO, I thought his kicking improved quite a lot this year compared to previous seasons. Him starting alongside Lynagh who is a rookie in such a big test would have been the better way to go. Gordon is very hit and miss.
Overall, I think the Wallabies look very disjointed. Pollard and Bell should be starting, and I'd argue Skelton's size in the pack would have helped them muscle up. I just can't see them winning but hopefully I'm proven wrong.
They probably want Gordon to control the game with his boot like Roigard did in the first half last week.
Fair to say Gordon did not control the game well. He was woeful. Tate offered so much more coming off the bench.
The conundrum is - Tate has been tried as a starter for the Wallabies before and it doesn't translate. He's best suited for the bench.
Yeah I agree but then again I thought he had the best season he’s ever had at Super level so maybe worth a shot? The Wallabies aren’t going to beat the Lions at their own game, they need to chance their arm more.
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@MiketheSnow said in Wallabies v Lions I:
Friends who went said it was a great evening with a tremendous atmosphere
Farrell totally vindicated with his selections of Beirne and Curry in the back row
Beirne got MOTM but I would have given it to Curry
Excellent, dominant first half from the Lions and should have kicked on to give the Wallabies a real pasting in the second half
But personnel changes gave the Aussies a sniff and they were like 50 year olds at the Oasis reunion gigs, didn’t need a second invitation to have a go
There is no way on God’s Green Earth that Earl had arms in that tackle
Should have been Penalty (possibly Penalty Try) and YC
12-24 with Earl in the bin from the 60th - 70th minutes is a very different game
Lowe, Keenan, and Freeman the only realistic changes for the second test
With possibly Morgan or Pollock on the bench instead of Earl
If Schmidt has his thinking cap on this week and the Italian ref wants to penalise the Lions offsides and repeated killing of the ball in their own 22 it could be a very interesting second match
Back three all had pretty average games which there’s no real excuse for when your forwards are that dominant.
As for the Earl tackle, surprised he got away with it but wouldn’t necessarily blame BOK, the TMO was categorical that there were arms in the tackle and it was fine, BOK checked on a number of occasions but was shut down.
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Lowe has looked a bit, hungus I think is the term. Not looking to put anyone else away if he's within 20m of the try line. He's butchered a few clear cut chances in previous games too.
Freeman started well but faded and didn't get brought into teh game and sadly didn't go looking too hard for work. Keenan still not 100% and looks underweight. It will be interesting to see how Kinghorn goes tomorrow.
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@MiketheSnow It looks as though Farrell is giving Morgan a fair chance to show some versatility by playing him at 6 tomorrow. If he nails that game, he's in with a good shout I'd say. Personally I would go with Pollock on the bench for his greater physicality but would be happy with either.
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@Bones said in Wallabies v Lions I:
Oh and fuck you for being down, fern. I had to argue with my brother about it who insisted that ruling only applies to clear outs and not tackles even after being shown the law about tackles.
He'd fit right in here
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@Canes4life said in Wallabies v Lions I:
@brodean said in Wallabies v Lions I:
@Canes4life said in Wallabies v Lions I:
@KiwiMurph said in Wallabies v Lions I:
@Canes4life said in Wallabies v Lions I:
McDermott should be starting all day long
Yeah no. His kicking game ain't good enough. Best suited to the bench
Disagree, he's been the best halfback in Aus by some distance this year IMO, I thought his kicking improved quite a lot this year compared to previous seasons. Him starting alongside Lynagh who is a rookie in such a big test would have been the better way to go. Gordon is very hit and miss.
Overall, I think the Wallabies look very disjointed. Pollard and Bell should be starting, and I'd argue Skelton's size in the pack would have helped them muscle up. I just can't see them winning but hopefully I'm proven wrong.
They probably want Gordon to control the game with his boot like Roigard did in the first half last week.
Fair to say Gordon did not control the game well. He was woeful. Tate offered so much more coming off the bench.
At the same time: our forwards were giving us really shit and/or slow ball, and the Lions were camping in our backline all day.
I'd rather BOK actually watch the last feet than twist himself into knots trying to find reasons not to award penalties at ruck time.
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@Bones said in Wallabies v Lions I:
@Dodge yeah, think VDM would have offered a heck of a lot more than Lowe, he was pretty yuck.
Called it.
Lowe is too busy tying his fucking hair up to contribute. His big problem is he thinks everything is about James Lowe.
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@Dodge said in Wallabies v Lions I:
@MiketheSnow said in Wallabies v Lions I:
Friends who went said it was a great evening with a tremendous atmosphere
Farrell totally vindicated with his selections of Beirne and Curry in the back row
Beirne got MOTM but I would have given it to Curry
Excellent, dominant first half from the Lions and should have kicked on to give the Wallabies a real pasting in the second half
But personnel changes gave the Aussies a sniff and they were like 50 year olds at the Oasis reunion gigs, didn’t need a second invitation to have a go
There is no way on God’s Green Earth that Earl had arms in that tackle
Should have been Penalty (possibly Penalty Try) and YC
12-24 with Earl in the bin from the 60th - 70th minutes is a very different game
Lowe, Keenan, and Freeman the only realistic changes for the second test
With possibly Morgan or Pollock on the bench instead of Earl
If Schmidt has his thinking cap on this week and the Italian ref wants to penalise the Lions offsides and repeated killing of the ball in their own 22 it could be a very interesting second match
Back three all had pretty average games which there’s no real excuse for when your forwards are that dominant.
As for the Earl tackle, surprised he got away with it but wouldn’t necessarily blame BOK, the TMO was categorical that there were arms in the tackle and it was fine, BOK checked on a number of occasions but was shut down.
I originally thought it looked no arms, but when I watched replay, it was pretty legal, he had arms in front of body which is all you can do. I actually thought all 3 calls were good, but I not a fan of YCs for the sake of them.
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@game_film said in Wallabies v Lions I:
@Kirwan Ben O’Thief. First time I’ve heard that. Beauty
Can't claim to have coined that, its a well earned nickname.
