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    @Nepia You may be right about Mikaele-Tu'u, although I vaguely remember reading somewhere he was part Maori, but that may be wrong.

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    @Stargazer said in Nz maori:

    @Nepia You may be right about Mikaele-Tu'u, although I vaguely remember reading somewhere he was part Maori, but that may be wrong.

    Yeah, not discounting that he is hence the question mark.

    @Whites72 According to this article his Dad is Samoan, it doesn't say if his Mum is Maori which could be a possibility I guess.
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/83569180/chiefs-raid-to-christchurch-leads-to-all-blacks-rookie-anton-lienertbrowns-success

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      @Stargazer said in Nz maori:

      @Nepia You may be right about Mikaele-Tu'u, although I vaguely remember reading somewhere he was part Maori, but that may be wrong.

      Yeah, not discounting that he is hence the question mark.

      @Whites72 According to this article his Dad is Samoan, it doesn't say if his Mum is Maori which could be a possibility I guess.
      http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/83569180/chiefs-raid-to-christchurch-leads-to-all-blacks-rookie-anton-lienertbrowns-success

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      @Nepia locks seem to be the biggest concern as not to many maori ones around

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        I read somewhere that the Leinert-Browns were part Fijian.

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        • WurzelW Wurzel

          I read somewhere that the Leinert-Browns were part Fijian.

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          @Wurzel said in Nz maori:

          I read somewhere that the Leinert-Browns were part Fijian.

          Ha, reminds me of reading the Walter Little/Frank Bunce book. Little got selected for a Maori team then his Mum told him he couldn't play, he had to ring the coach and say "sorry, but I'm not Maori"

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            Just wondering when the squad actually gets named and who is likely to make the squad?

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            @Whites72 said in Nz maori:

            Just wondering when the squad actually gets named and who is likely to make the squad?

            Usually in conjunction with the EOYT team, so likely the Sunday following the Eden Park test.

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              @Wurzel said in Nz maori:

              I read somewhere that the Leinert-Browns were part Fijian.

              Ha, reminds me of reading the Walter Little/Frank Bunce book. Little got selected for a Maori team then his Mum told him he couldn't play, he had to ring the coach and say "sorry, but I'm not Maori"

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              @MN5 said in Nz maori:

              @Wurzel said in Nz maori:

              I read somewhere that the Leinert-Browns were part Fijian.

              Ha, reminds me of reading the Walter Little/Frank Bunce book. Little got selected for a Maori team then his Mum told him he couldn't play, he had to ring the coach and say "sorry, but I'm not Maori"

              I guess Frank Bunce's mum told him to keep his mouth shut when the Samoan coach called him up in 1991.

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              • NepiaN Nepia

                @booboo I think ALB is Samoan not Maori.

                @Stargazer Same with Mikaele-Tu'u?

                Is Walker-Leaware injured?

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                @Nepia said in Nz maori:

                @booboo I think ALB is Samoan not Maori.

                @Stargazer Same with Mikaele-Tu'u?

                Is Walker-Leaware injured?

                So DLB too?

                Will update list later
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                  @Nepia Lienert brown is actually maori according to google as is Sam mcnicol which I was surprised at

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                  @Whites72 said in Nz maori:

                  @Nepia Lienert brown is actually maori according to google as is Sam mcnicol which I was surprised at

                  Or not ... 🙂

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                    Apparently Tim Bateman is a likely tourist. Back in Christchurch, sniffing around for a Crusaders contract, played for Ta$man B the other day. Hardly done anything that warrants Maori selection but two articles I've ready this week have phrased it in such a way that it seems Tim is in the squad.

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                    • WurzelW Wurzel

                      Apparently Tim Bateman is a likely tourist. Back in Christchurch, sniffing around for a Crusaders contract, played for Ta$man B the other day. Hardly done anything that warrants Maori selection but two articles I've ready this week have phrased it in such a way that it seems Tim is in the squad.

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                      Some of Cooper's selections will be dependent on who makes the AB squad, e.g. R Ioane, DMac.

                      The midfield options seem to be lacking in experience and quality.

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                        Some of Cooper's selections will be dependent on who makes the AB squad, e.g. R Ioane, DMac.

                        The midfield options seem to be lacking in experience and quality.

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                        @Bovidae said in Nz maori:

                        Some of Cooper's selections will be dependent on who makes the AB squad, e.g. R Ioane, DMac.

                        The midfield options seem to be lacking in experience and quality.

                        [Rieko Ioane (Blues/Auckland)]
                        Jason Emery (Highlanders/Manawatu)
                        Matt Proctor (Hurricanes/Wellington)
                        Sean Wainui (Crusaders/Taranaki)
                        Jonah Lowe (NZU20s/Hawke's Bay)

                        These players lack quality? Lowe is the only one lacking Super Rugby experience, but NPC players have been selected for the Maori side before without having played Super Rugby.

                        I don't agree with you at all.

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                          I'd be playing Ioane on the wing not midfield.

                          Is Proctor fit?

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                            I'd be playing Ioane on the wing not midfield.

                            Is Proctor fit?

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                            @ACT-Crusader said in Nz maori:

                            I'd be playing Ioane on the wing not midfield.

                            Is Proctor fit?

                            Proctor is recovering from a concussion. I guess it will depend on the seriousness of the concussion whether he'll be available for selection.

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                              @Bovidae said in Nz maori:

                              Some of Cooper's selections will be dependent on who makes the AB squad, e.g. R Ioane, DMac.

                              The midfield options seem to be lacking in experience and quality.

                              [Rieko Ioane (Blues/Auckland)]
                              Jason Emery (Highlanders/Manawatu)
                              Matt Proctor (Hurricanes/Wellington)
                              Sean Wainui (Crusaders/Taranaki)
                              Jonah Lowe (NZU20s/Hawke's Bay)

                              These players lack quality? Lowe is the only one lacking Super Rugby experience, but NPC players have been selected for the Maori side before without having played Super Rugby.

                              I don't agree with you at all.

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                              @Stargazer I don't see anyone in that list who could be considered a backline leader like Ngatai was last year.

                              Here was the Maori backline that played the Baabaas.

                              1. Tawera Kerr-Barlow, 10. Marty McKenzie, 11. Matt Proctor, 12. Charlie Ngatai, 13. Sean Wainui, 14. Rieko Ioane, 15. Damian McKenzie.

                              So perhaps Proctor and Wainui would be the favoured midfield duo based on who is available this year.

                              The Baabaas backline and team were dominant in the game.
                              9. Mitchell Drummond, 10. Tom Taylor (VC), 11. Patrick Osborne, 12. George Moala, 13. Seta Tamanivalu, 14. Cory Jane, 15. Andrew Horrell

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                                @Stargazer I don't see anyone in that list who could be considered a backline leader like Ngatai was last year.

                                Here was the Maori backline that played the Baabaas.

                                1. Tawera Kerr-Barlow, 10. Marty McKenzie, 11. Matt Proctor, 12. Charlie Ngatai, 13. Sean Wainui, 14. Rieko Ioane, 15. Damian McKenzie.

                                So perhaps Proctor and Wainui would be the favoured midfield duo based on who is available this year.

                                The Baabaas backline and team were dominant in the game.
                                9. Mitchell Drummond, 10. Tom Taylor (VC), 11. Patrick Osborne, 12. George Moala, 13. Seta Tamanivalu, 14. Cory Jane, 15. Andrew Horrell

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                                @Bovidae said in Nz maori:

                                @Stargazer I don't see anyone in that list who could be considered a backline leader like Ngatai was last year.

                                Here was the Maori backline that played the Baabaas.

                                1. Tawera Kerr-Barlow, 10. Marty McKenzie, 11. Matt Proctor, 12. Charlie Ngatai, 13. Sean Wainui, 14. Rieko Ioane, 15. Damian McKenzie.

                                So perhaps Proctor and Wainui would be the favoured midfield duo based on who is available this year.

                                The Baabaas backline and team were dominant in the game.
                                9. Mitchell Drummond, 10. Tom Taylor (VC), 11. Patrick Osborne, 12. George Moala, 13. Seta Tamanivalu, 14. Cory Jane, 15. Andrew Horrell

                                Maybe that's why they might be considering Bateman, who has captained the team a few years ago.

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                                  Is Joe Tupe maori ? And Parete ?

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                                  • WurzelW Wurzel

                                    I read somewhere that the Leinert-Browns were part Fijian.

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                                    @Wurzel I thought they were Samoan.

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                                      Is Joe Tupe maori ? And Parete ?

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                                      @cgrant Not sure on Tupe but Parete has played for Taranaki Maori. Joe Royal is still playing but hasn't featured much, We have Toma and Tipuna at half-back and Kelly Haimona but he's an Italian international. Isaac Te Aute isn't ready yet

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                                        http://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/790440189319602176

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                                          Maori All Blacks squad named:

                                          Player Province Whakapapa
                                          Leni Apisai * Wellington Ngati Awa
                                          Tim Bateman Canterbury Ngai Tahu
                                          Otere Black Manawatu Ngai Tuhoe / Te Whanau a Apanui / Ngati Tuwharetoa
                                          Shane Christie Ta$man Te Ati Haunui a Paparangi / Ngati Kurawhatia
                                          Ash Dixon, Captain Hawkes Bay Ngati Tahinga
                                          Whetu Douglas * Waikato Ngati Porou / Ngati Whakaue
                                          Jason Emery Manawatu Ngati Haua / Ngati Maniapoto
                                          Chris Eves Manawatu Waikato / Tainui
                                          Tom Franklin Otago Ngati Maniapoto
                                          Billy Guyton * Ta$man Ngapuhi / Ngati Pikiao / Ngati Raukawa
                                          Kane Hames Ta$man Ngai Tuhoe / Ngati Porou
                                          Akira Ioane Auckland Ngapuhi / Te Whanau a Apanui
                                          Mike Kainga Taranaki Ngati Kahungunu
                                          James Lowe Ta$man Ngapuhi / Ngai Te Rangi
                                          Ben May Hawkes Bay Ngati Maniapoto
                                          Marty McKenzie Taranaki Ngati Tuwharetoa / Ngati Tahinga
                                          Leighton Price * Taranaki Waikato / Ngati Maniapoto
                                          Reed Prinsep * Canterbury Te Rarawa
                                          Matt Proctor Wellington Ngai Te Rangi / Ngapuhi
                                          Kara Pryor * Northland Ngati Awa / Ngati Pikiao / Ngati Rangitihi
                                          Marcel Renata Auckland Ngati Whanaunga / Te Aupouri
                                          Joe Royal Bay of Plenty Te Arawa / Ngati Whatua o Orakei / Ngapuhi
                                          Jacob Skeen Waikato Ngapuhi
                                          Sean Wainui Taranaki Ngai Tuhoe / Te Aitanga a Mahaki / Nga Arikikaiputahi / Ngati Porou
                                          Brad Weber Hawkes Bay Ngati Porou
                                          Ihaia West Hawkes Bay Ngati Kahungunu / Ngati Porou

                                          Captain: Ash Dixon

                                          One injured player, Declan O'Donnell is currently injured and will be replaced. Charlie Ngatai, last year's skipper, is still injured.

                                          New players: Leni Apisai (Wellington), Whetu Douglas (Waikato), Billy Guyton ( Ta$man), Leighton Price (Taranaki), Reed Prinsep (Canterbury) and Kara Pryor (Northland)

                                          Five players still involved in Mitre 10 Cup Finals will join the squad in Auckland after their matches this weekend.
                                          
                                          The squad flies out on Sunday night.
                                          

                                          http://www.allblacks.com/News/30023/maori-all-blacks-squad-named-for-northern-tour

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