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    0-5 whitewash confirmed. Bowlers took their usual tap, and their batsmen couldn't get it done despite Warner getting 173.

    The bowling attack was substandard, and struggled, but that batting lineup was first choice, with Warner, Finch, Smith, Bailey and M Marsh all playing. Only one of those players goes home a success. Warner, as much as i hate that dopey, belligerent little dwarf, scored 386 runs @ 77, with a strike rate of 113. That's a great series.

    M Marsh appears to be the latest in a long line of not really good enough all rounders who get constantly picked.

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    Bloody hell that's an insane innings. Finch with 19 from 40, what a fail. Just needed one other bloke to get a decent 50 and they're home, Warner will be spewing.

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    Warner was Ponting-esque in his innings. Clean striking and never looked rattled.

    Smith and Finch the biggest failures of the series. Finch looks a little more rotund than previous.

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    A good read, and yet one that leaves me with just as many questions.

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/opinion/85341107/the-sad-divide-between-the-family-of-phillip-hughes-and-the-cricketing-community

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    @Donsteppa yep, i was going to write about this today. There seems a lot of anger from the Hughes family towards cricket, and that days play. And the media are not helping by how they are reporting (i read an article this morning where his dad kept saying "bullshit" during someone's testimony.

    If indeed they are angry, i would love to know what at?

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    @mariner4life said in Aussie Cricket:

    @Donsteppa yep, i was going to write about this today. There seems a lot of anger from the Hughes family towards cricket, and that days play. And the media are not helping by how they are reporting (i read an article this morning where his dad kept saying "bullshit" during someone's testimony.

    If indeed they are angry, i would love to know what at?

    I'm guessing:
    They lost their son. They want him back. They're angry at that and they need someone or something to blame. To direct their anger at. They think that will make it right. Make them feel better if that someone or somethibg is punished.

    Sad fact is none of that will happen.

    Phil will still be dead and they will still be sad and angry.

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    @booboo That seems to be a big part of it, but there's an implication that maybe the stories at the inquest aren't what the family believed were the case at the time - whether they're right in that belief or not is the million dollar question...

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    I think they're angry at the players only being questioned so long after the incident?

    Fuck knows. Its a shit situation. Grilling players about sledges isn't going to bring anyone back. Rewriting the laws of cricket will not actually help the game.

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    Virg, are you there....VIIIIIIRRRRRGGGILLLL.........

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    @NTA it seemed a bit more than that though because it appeared to be directed at the players, whereas that type of grievance should be directed at police/coroner.

    It's hard to know what is actually happening here.

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    @mariner4life said in Aussie Cricket:

    @Donsteppa yep, i was going to write about this today. There seems a lot of anger from the Hughes family towards cricket, and that days play. And the media are not helping by how they are reporting (i read an article this morning where his dad kept saying "bullshit" during someone's testimony.

    If indeed they are angry, i would love to know what at?

    Yeah, the whole thing has left me bewildered as to what anyone expected to come out of it. Rather unedifying for the family. I mean, so what if they sledged him? Did you see the fluke manner in which he died? As if someone meant to kill him.

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    sounds like it got worse today, and i really don't know what the Hughes family are trying to get out of this?

    Cricketers under attack from family lawyer

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    @dK said in Aussie Cricket:

    Virg, are you there....VIIIIIIRRRRRGGGILLLL.........

    You need to do it like this under the new fern regime.

    @Virgil

    I hope this helps.

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    @dK said in Aussie Cricket:

    Virg, are you there....VIIIIIIRRRRRGGGILLLL.........

    Yup im here, keeping my opinions to myself..

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    This is a good piece from Malcolm Knox. Don't think any of us can fully appreciate what the Hughes family is going through.

    Malcolm Knox  /  Oct 13, 2016  /  Cricket

    The good that may yet come from the Phillip Hughes inquest

    The good that may yet come from the Phillip Hughes inquest

    The coronial inquest into the death of Phillip Hughes may yet deliver some good.

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    Great read.

    What I'm bemused about is that - if Bollinger did make that sledge and Haddin had gone in wth that game plan, etc - why deny it now when the family believes it to be true from the time - and from another player.

    Possibly none of it was said or short pitched bowling planned, but I think:

    • even a kid bowling in the back of Afghanistan would have been vaguely aware that an Australian batsman called Philip Hughes had a known weakness against the short ball... if they hadn't planned to give him the odd bouncer it would have been unusual...

    • Bollinger's alleged sledge: again, anyone who's ever bowled a bouncer remembers steaming in fuming that "I'm going to knock this fucking fluffybunny's block off" - yet would have been horrified had we literally succeeed. I don't think anyone who knows the game beyond the headlines would have thought lesser of him for saying it*.

    (*) yes, I'm in the crowd of "Brud Huddun's all shut bro", but there's a difference in scale between sportsmanship and a situation where someone dies on the pitch.

    Would it have done any harm to admit to it all, or did the session not really play out that way? Either way, it's very sad.

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    @barbarian said in Aussie Cricket:

    This is a good piece from Malcolm Knox. Don't think any of us can fully appreciate what the Hughes family is going through.

    Malcolm Knox  /  Oct 13, 2016  /  Cricket

    The good that may yet come from the Phillip Hughes inquest

    The good that may yet come from the Phillip Hughes inquest

    The coronial inquest into the death of Phillip Hughes may yet deliver some good.

    One small part that detracts from an otherwise good piece:

    Telling them to move on? Their grief is literally unimaginable.

    Ah, no it's literally not. https://bitre.gov.au/statistics/safety/fatal_road_crash_database.aspx

    @Donsteppa said in Aussie Cricket:

    Would it have done any harm to admit to it all, or did the session not really play out that way? EIther way, it's very sad.

    I haven't been across the evidence to make an informed response, but I can imagine that if it did and they admitted to it, if they were concerned about ramifications. Regardless you are correct; it's sad.

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  • DonsteppaD Offline
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    Crowe's article really stood out for me at the time. Especially (but not only) the sentiment about how many bullets everyone else has dodged over the years. Even after hearing Hughes was in hospital, I didn't assume the worst.

    Short pitched bowling and related sledging were hardly unique to Haddin, Bollinger, and Abbot.

    http://www.espncricinfo.com/magazine/content/story/805163.html

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    I read a report that something that was pissing the family off was a long list of players relying "I don't recall" ad nauseam to questions. I can see their point if this is the case. Everything on that days play would be etched in my memory for years if I had been playing.

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  • antipodeanA Offline
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    I think a good thing was the rapid redesign of helmets to help prevent a reoccurrence. I recall as a young lad seeing the first guys wearing motorcycle helmets playing first class cricket.

    Helmet or not, facing up to genuine pace requires bravery.

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