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  • barbarianB Online
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    So, Carlton. Allow me to vent for a minute.

    They have had the same problem for the last two years. They can't hit a target. It's become increasingly problematic. While the fault lies largely with the players, it's an indictment on the coaches that they've been unable to fix it.

    I watch a guy like Wanganeen-Milera with a green-eyed envy. Or a guy like Sidebottom or Myers. Their ability to pick out a guy in the corridor, or on the lead inside 50 is something we desperately need but don't have. Nobody is even close to that level and it's killing them.

    Fix that one issue and it all starts to fall into place, I think. But it's an enormous and maybe impossible problem to solve without wholesale list changes.

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  • mariner4lifeM Online
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    I have read so many theories on what they need to do. Carlton led a prelim in 2023 before being run over, and last year were 2nd on the ladder in Rd 19 before winning just one of their last 5.

    Coaching, list management, arrogance, game style, the Board, everything has been laid out as needing to change.

    It has gone very wrong this year though. 4 wins and percentage out of the 8 is a long way to come back.

    But it's not all bad, once again you're playing prime time free to air footy this week.

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  • barbarianB Online
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    The perils of being a big Melbourne club. Great to get the attention when it's going well, but very hard to fail quietly every Thursday or Friday night.

    I don't think they are actually that bad. Been in most games this year. Just lack that execution, and if/when they get it I think a lot will come from that. Confidence being the main one.

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  • mariner4lifeM Online
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    Loooooool

    Tigers v Bombers was hilarious.

    My son played 2s in Cairns today and it didn't look any worse.

    Meme game

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  • mariner4lifeM Online
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    what in the actual fuck?? Do the AFL hate casual viewers? Are they deliberately trying to sabotage their own broadcast deal?

    Another Thursday, another fucking Carlton primetime game. Fuck that club off in to the sun. Or the saturday early/sunday late arvo timeslot which is arguably worse.
    That's alright, tomorrow night we get, wait, what? Fucking Essendon? wait, no, they have actually saved us all by hiding it behind the Sydney derby, and it's what we get FTA.
    Biggest Q-Clash in years? Lets put it on at 1pm saturday.
    The Showdown is the derby game that throws up the best results and best spectacles. Lets put it Saturday night. I mean, Collingwood are going to flog Richmond so that better be the Sunday arvo game...

    Defies belief.

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  • barbarianB Online
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    Yeah Gerard ripped it apart on 360. Makes no sense at all.

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  • mariner4lifeM Online
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    who would have thought that after an absolutely shocking weekend of footy, where there were one-sided beltings galore, it would be saved by the final quarter of the sunday twilight game. A game involving the Saints and the Dees. Largest 4th quarter comeback in history. Just an absolute flood of goals. unreal.

    A weekend to forget for so many teams, though most especially the Lions as they were the only decent side to get absolutely rolled.

    Sydney are now gone, and it's 9 teams still alive. The Suns still have their catch up game v the Bombers which you think they win, so the Dogs are actually 2 wins out of the 8, with only 4 to play.

    This weekend we get Crows v Hawks and Collingwood v Lions to really shape the top 4.
    Dogs v Giants could decide the 8.
    Geelong and Freo will bank wins to move up, probably the Suns as well.

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    @mariner4life who's top of the table?

    (Who cares about number of games played ... )

    (Haven't watched a game so far this year.)

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  • barbarianB Online
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    @mariner4life Genuinely think NWM is the best player in the competition at the moment. If you held a draft with every player available, he'd be my first pick. The skill set that every team needs.

    Plenty of decent on-ballers but only a couple who can move back, move forward, go into the middle and be so impactful everywhere.

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  • mariner4lifeM Online
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    @barbarian said in AFL 2025:

    @mariner4life Genuinely think NWM is the best player in the competition at the moment. If you held a draft with every player available, he'd be my first pick. The skill set that every team needs.

    Plenty of decent on-ballers but only a couple who can move back, move forward, go into the middle and be so impactful everywhere.

    St Kilda should just pay him what ever he wants. Players like that don't come around very often.

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  • barbarianB Online
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    Yeah paying TDK $1.7m is just criminal if they let him walk out.

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  • mariner4lifeM Online
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    Reports of a Board meeting at the Demons today

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    Just watched Dockers v Eagles
    i'm thinking the Dockers are showing more starch this season than anytime since they joined the comp
    not saying they're guna win the flag, but they are starting to become a tough nut to crack
    still cant kick straight tho, 18 behinds!
    more starch and grit, that's what the NRL warriiors need

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    Ok so I'm getting ahead of myself but I'm reminded of this (yeah we've lost a GF in living memory, and looked good only to lose prelims ... but this is funny ...):

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  • boobooB Offline
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    I know I have completely fucked the Crows' chances now ...

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  • ACT CrusaderA Offline
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    @barbarian said in AFL 2025:

    @mariner4life Genuinely think NWM is the best player in the competition at the moment. If you held a draft with every player available, he'd be my first pick. The skill set that every team needs.

    Plenty of decent on-ballers but only a couple who can move back, move forward, go into the middle and be so impactful everywhere.

    The pull to go back home (Adelaide) is very strong.

    But he should be able to name his price and Saints get the deal done. Two things - he’s a phenomenal player and a rare player that can do it all. But he’s not the superstar type that will want the limelight and be ‘out there’

    On a different contract - did you see the stupid numbers being touted for Reid? $24 million over 10 years. Yeah nah.

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  • mariner4lifeM Online
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    Reid is not that good yet. But, West Coast need to pay it to keep him, OR the AFL need to step in and help to make him stay. The comp is getting more and more one-sided. North have barely won a game in the 20s, and are still copping regular blow out hidings. West Coast won the flag in 2018 but they fucking suck now.

    Qld football is going well because of our academy system and a huge dose of luck in the father/son.

    But there are so many teams that are going nowhere, and can't keep the talent they do draft. Not all are as bad as North, but the Dons have their two decades without winning a final, St Kilda's last decent finals campaign was a long time ago.

    With a possible new side coming in (and you think another somewhere else) it's only going to get worse at the bottom before it gets better, the AFL can't keep letting the talent all accumulate in a few clubs.

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    @mariner4life

    Yes
    People seem to like when leagues add more teams.
    But they forget the negative side; with more teams you are going to get more loser teams too.

    With Tassie in in 28; I think the interstate balance will be just about right.
    The issue will be too many clubs in Victoria, but try and tell them that! Haha

    In 28 there will be nine interstate teams, 9 in Melbourne, plus Geelong
    This is close to a seismic change in Australian football. If all the interstate teams stick together, control of the league could possibly move out of Victoria for the first time.

    At one time the VFL (now AFL) didn’t even control all football in Victoria. Now it controls all Australian football worldwide.
    The VFL expanded interstate because all the Melbourne VFL clubs were in trouble and the new license fees (Eagles first) bailed them out.
    When you consider the amount of money they’re spending to expand (interstate) now, the thought of the old license fee system is almost laughable.

    Eventually only one Melbourne club (Fitzroy) actually disappeared.
    It’d be good for the league as a whole if another Melbourne club were to go, soon.

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  • mariner4lifeM Online
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    I agree.

    Fold Carlton now.

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    @mariner4life

    Haha

    I enjoy Carlton at the mo

    just looked at the table

    if it wasn't for the sorry ass Eagles, seven Melbourne clubs would be holding up the ladder!

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