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    I know I have completely fucked the Crows' chances now ...

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      @mariner4life Genuinely think NWM is the best player in the competition at the moment. If you held a draft with every player available, he'd be my first pick. The skill set that every team needs.

      Plenty of decent on-ballers but only a couple who can move back, move forward, go into the middle and be so impactful everywhere.

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      @barbarian said in AFL 2025:

      @mariner4life Genuinely think NWM is the best player in the competition at the moment. If you held a draft with every player available, he'd be my first pick. The skill set that every team needs.

      Plenty of decent on-ballers but only a couple who can move back, move forward, go into the middle and be so impactful everywhere.

      The pull to go back home (Adelaide) is very strong.

      But he should be able to name his price and Saints get the deal done. Two things - he’s a phenomenal player and a rare player that can do it all. But he’s not the superstar type that will want the limelight and be ‘out there’

      On a different contract - did you see the stupid numbers being touted for Reid? $24 million over 10 years. Yeah nah.

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        Reid is not that good yet. But, West Coast need to pay it to keep him, OR the AFL need to step in and help to make him stay. The comp is getting more and more one-sided. North have barely won a game in the 20s, and are still copping regular blow out hidings. West Coast won the flag in 2018 but they fucking suck now.

        Qld football is going well because of our academy system and a huge dose of luck in the father/son.

        But there are so many teams that are going nowhere, and can't keep the talent they do draft. Not all are as bad as North, but the Dons have their two decades without winning a final, St Kilda's last decent finals campaign was a long time ago.

        With a possible new side coming in (and you think another somewhere else) it's only going to get worse at the bottom before it gets better, the AFL can't keep letting the talent all accumulate in a few clubs.

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        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

          Reid is not that good yet. But, West Coast need to pay it to keep him, OR the AFL need to step in and help to make him stay. The comp is getting more and more one-sided. North have barely won a game in the 20s, and are still copping regular blow out hidings. West Coast won the flag in 2018 but they fucking suck now.

          Qld football is going well because of our academy system and a huge dose of luck in the father/son.

          But there are so many teams that are going nowhere, and can't keep the talent they do draft. Not all are as bad as North, but the Dons have their two decades without winning a final, St Kilda's last decent finals campaign was a long time ago.

          With a possible new side coming in (and you think another somewhere else) it's only going to get worse at the bottom before it gets better, the AFL can't keep letting the talent all accumulate in a few clubs.

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          @mariner4life

          Yes
          People seem to like when leagues add more teams.
          But they forget the negative side; with more teams you are going to get more loser teams too.

          With Tassie in in 28; I think the interstate balance will be just about right.
          The issue will be too many clubs in Victoria, but try and tell them that! Haha

          In 28 there will be nine interstate teams, 9 in Melbourne, plus Geelong
          This is close to a seismic change in Australian football. If all the interstate teams stick together, control of the league could possibly move out of Victoria for the first time.

          At one time the VFL (now AFL) didn’t even control all football in Victoria. Now it controls all Australian football worldwide.
          The VFL expanded interstate because all the Melbourne VFL clubs were in trouble and the new license fees (Eagles first) bailed them out.
          When you consider the amount of money they’re spending to expand (interstate) now, the thought of the old license fee system is almost laughable.

          Eventually only one Melbourne club (Fitzroy) actually disappeared.
          It’d be good for the league as a whole if another Melbourne club were to go, soon.

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            I agree.

            Fold Carlton now.

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              I agree.

              Fold Carlton now.

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              @mariner4life

              Haha

              I enjoy Carlton at the mo

              just looked at the table

              if it wasn't for the sorry ass Eagles, seven Melbourne clubs would be holding up the ladder!

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                Not sure which Vic club should leave, but as an outsider I just feel like GWS and Gold Coast are manufactured and feel artificial.

                Others may be able to point out the error of my ways, but I don't feel the ... tribalism (?) ... of those clubs. Just don't get the feels when they're playing.

                Happy to be wrong.

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                  The club to be disbanded is obviously Collingwood.

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                    Not sure which Vic club should leave, but as an outsider I just feel like GWS and Gold Coast are manufactured and feel artificial.

                    Others may be able to point out the error of my ways, but I don't feel the ... tribalism (?) ... of those clubs. Just don't get the feels when they're playing.

                    Happy to be wrong.

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                    @booboo

                    almost 100% manufactured
                    but this is where the commercial imperiatives take over, whether we like that or not
                    the VFL started that ball rolling themselves when they expanded out of Victoria

                    the West Coast Eagles and Adelaide Crows joining the VFL virtually destroyed the WAFL and SANFL, leagues and clubs with lots of tribalism

                    several of the Melbourne clubs have done well to survive in the big league

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                      The club to be disbanded is obviously Collingwood.

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                      @antipodean

                      wasn't guna say it, but now that you've brought up
                      i'd be ecstatic if Collingwood suddenly disappeared of the face of the earth haha
                      unfortunately, never guna happen

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                        Gold Coast and i assume GWS are more important to the AFL than nearly any other club for reasons far beyond the field.

                        I've mentioned before, but the Suns do all the heavy lifting in terms of development and academies through regional Qld. There are an enormous amount of kids getting high grade coaching in regional Qld areas that would probably otherwise just default to rugby league. They open up pathways to higher levels that just did not exist not that long ago.

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                          seriously how good is Septmeber going to be? Fans of any of the teams that make the 8 will front up to the game knowing they are a good chance to win, and win well. There is no one locked in best side, everyone is pretty even, every team is capable of both sublime and ridiculous footy, often in the same game.

                          After that GWS 2nd half last week, who expected them to get torched by the Dogs this week? Ridiculous comp.

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                            Right, just moves to Perth fellow ferners. I'm on the Freo bandwagon. What are our chances of winning it lol?

                            I also know bugger all about the game but am making an effort to follow haha.

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                              Right, just moves to Perth fellow ferners. I'm on the Freo bandwagon. What are our chances of winning it lol?

                              I also know bugger all about the game but am making an effort to follow haha.

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                              @African-Monkey said in AFL 2025:

                              Right, just moves to Perth fellow ferners. I'm on the Freo bandwagon. What are our chances of winning it lol?

                              I also know bugger all about the game but am making an effort to follow haha.

                              If it's anything like Adelaide you won't need to make an effort. It's all you'll see and hear. At least you have the Farce.

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                                @African-Monkey said in AFL 2025:

                                Right, just moves to Perth fellow ferners. I'm on the Freo bandwagon. What are our chances of winning it lol?

                                I also know bugger all about the game but am making an effort to follow haha.

                                If it's anything like Adelaide you won't need to make an effort. It's all you'll see and hear. At least you have the Farce.

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                                @booboo said in AFL 2025:

                                @African-Monkey said in AFL 2025:

                                Right, just moves to Perth fellow ferners. I'm on the Freo bandwagon. What are our chances of winning it lol?

                                I also know bugger all about the game but am making an effort to follow haha.

                                If it's anything like Adelaide you won't need to make an effort. It's all you'll see and hear. At least you have the Farce.

                                Seen a bit around the place but not like Melbourne where it's rammed down your throat (so far anyway). Never been to Adelaide so can't comment (yet).

                                Yup the Farce are located 10 mins walk away from where I am, so I will be attending their matches every week.

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                                  Adelaide are top of the table. Incredible.
                                  Lions with a statement win at the 'G to handily take care of Collingwood.

                                  Thanks to all the results over the weekend, the Dogs had a huge win and are still outside the 8. Super congested table still.

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                                    Looking at the remaining fixtures and there will be some big moves still

                                    Adelaide should finish top, they have West Coast and North either side of hosting Collingwood. 18 wins
                                    Collingwood have the Hawks, Adelaide and Melbourne. In their current form they may only win one more. 16 wins
                                    Brisbane have Sydney, away to Freo and host the Hawks. 16 wins (but the bonus of a draw)
                                    Geelong are kissed on the dick, Essendon, Sydney and Richmond. 17 wins
                                    Freo have Port, Brisbane and the Dogs. 16 wins, or 17 if the Dogs are eliminated before the last round.
                                    the Suns have four games. Carlton, GWS, Port and Essendon. 16 wins
                                    Hawthorn have Collingwood, Melbourne and Brisbane. 15 wins
                                    GWS have North, GC and St Kilda, and i think they win 2 for 15 wins
                                    the Dogs finish with Melbourne, West Coast and Freo. 3 wins gets them to 15 and they play Friday night of the last round.

                                    I think you'll need 15 wins to play finals, and more than 16 to make top 4.
                                    And it will only take a couple of the above games to reverse and the whole picture changes again.

                                    Adelaide will finish top, Geelong will finish 2nd on percentage, Brisbane and Freo will round out the 4 and Collingwood will drop to 5th. And if that comes to pass then i think the Dogs miss.

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                                      Right, just moves to Perth fellow ferners. I'm on the Freo bandwagon. What are our chances of winning it lol?

                                      I also know bugger all about the game but am making an effort to follow haha.

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                                      @African-Monkey said in AFL 2025:

                                      Right, just moves to Perth fellow ferners. I'm on the Freo bandwagon. What are our chances of winning it lol?

                                      I also know bugger all about the game but am making an effort to follow haha.

                                      on ya cobber!

                                      Freo have a decent chance of finishing top 4 and getting that second chance. They’ll smash Port next weekend then have a stern test against Brissy and then could end the Bulldogs chances of Finals in the last round.

                                      Freo are a good team to watch too.

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                                        @African-Monkey said in AFL 2025:

                                        Right, just moves to Perth fellow ferners. I'm on the Freo bandwagon. What are our chances of winning it lol?

                                        I also know bugger all about the game but am making an effort to follow haha.

                                        on ya cobber!

                                        Freo have a decent chance of finishing top 4 and getting that second chance. They’ll smash Port next weekend then have a stern test against Brissy and then could end the Bulldogs chances of Finals in the last round.

                                        Freo are a good team to watch too.

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                                        @ACT-Crusader said in AFL 2025:

                                        @African-Monkey said in AFL 2025:

                                        Right, just moves to Perth fellow ferners. I'm on the Freo bandwagon. What are our chances of winning it lol?

                                        I also know bugger all about the game but am making an effort to follow haha.

                                        on ya cobber!

                                        Freo have a decent chance of finishing top 4 and getting that second chance. They’ll smash Port next weekend then have a stern test against Brissy and then could end the Bulldogs chances of Finals in the last round.

                                        Freo are a good team to watch too.

                                        Yeah tried to make yesterday's game against Carlton but sadly shopping with the wife took over.

                                        Am going to the game against the Lions on the 15th though, $39 for a seat in the nosebleeds haha but I look forward to it.

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                                          @ACT-Crusader said in AFL 2025:

                                          @African-Monkey said in AFL 2025:

                                          Right, just moves to Perth fellow ferners. I'm on the Freo bandwagon. What are our chances of winning it lol?

                                          I also know bugger all about the game but am making an effort to follow haha.

                                          on ya cobber!

                                          Freo have a decent chance of finishing top 4 and getting that second chance. They’ll smash Port next weekend then have a stern test against Brissy and then could end the Bulldogs chances of Finals in the last round.

                                          Freo are a good team to watch too.

                                          Yeah tried to make yesterday's game against Carlton but sadly shopping with the wife took over.

                                          Am going to the game against the Lions on the 15th though, $39 for a seat in the nosebleeds haha but I look forward to it.

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                                          @African-Monkey said in AFL 2025:

                                          @ACT-Crusader said in AFL 2025:

                                          @African-Monkey said in AFL 2025:

                                          Right, just moves to Perth fellow ferners. I'm on the Freo bandwagon. What are our chances of winning it lol?

                                          I also know bugger all about the game but am making an effort to follow haha.

                                          on ya cobber!

                                          Freo have a decent chance of finishing top 4 and getting that second chance. They’ll smash Port next weekend then have a stern test against Brissy and then could end the Bulldogs chances of Finals in the last round.

                                          Freo are a good team to watch too.

                                          Yeah tried to make yesterday's game against Carlton but sadly shopping with the wife took over.

                                          Am going to the game against the Lions on the 15th though, $39 for a seat in the nosebleeds haha but I look forward to it.

                                          Sorry, on the prices, the cheapest tickets to a West Coast Eagles game was $62! Was cosidering going to the Eagles v Crows game next week, but yeah, maybe not for that price.

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