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    akan004
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    @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks v Argentina I:

    @sparky said in All Blacks v Argentina I:

    @MiketheSnow

    https://www.oddschecker.com/rugby-union/rugby-championship/argentina-v-new-zealand/winner

    Argentina did beat the Lions and have beaten the All Blacks twice in recent year. Dangerous opponents.

    And lost a home series to England B

    Was it Argentina's top team?

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    @akan004 said in All Blacks v Argentina I:

    @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks v Argentina I:

    @sparky said in All Blacks v Argentina I:

    @MiketheSnow

    https://www.oddschecker.com/rugby-union/rugby-championship/argentina-v-new-zealand/winner

    Argentina did beat the Lions and have beaten the All Blacks twice in recent year. Dangerous opponents.

    And lost a home series to England B

    Was it Argentina's top team?

    No it wasn’t they had all their players who play in France out, they are all back for the RC.

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    Then look out NZ

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    From Stuff:

    All Blacks No 8 Wallace Sititi will miss the Rugby Championship opener against Argentina in Cordoba on Sunday (NZT). Sititi is still recovering from ankle surgery that saw him miss the 3-0 series win against France in New Zealand July. All Blacks coach Scott Robertson confirmed news of Sititi’s delayed comeback from Argentina on Tuesday morning.

    If Parker and Lakai are late arrivals that almost guarantees Savea will start at no.8.

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    Dalton Papalii being left out of the squad is looking ever more strange.

    I'm worried that Du'Plessis Kirifi who looks set to start at 7 in the RC opener against Argentina won't be up to the task.

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    Sititi gooooone

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360788271/all-blacks-no-8-wallace-sititi-ruled-out-first-rugby-championship-test-against-argentina

    Edit: well, delayed return from surgery.

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    @nzzp It looks like Wallace Sititi and Tamati Williams wil be available for the second test though. Probably both from the bench.

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    Gee, if only there was an awesome number 8 we could draft into the side....

    Maybe Sotutu should walk around in red and black active wear so the AB coaches subconsciously start liking him?

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    It’s not going to happen but this seems like a great time for Robertson to try a 6. Vaa’i 7. Savea 8. Finau combination. Sure, the breakdown might be a bit messy. And yeah, Finau hasn’t played at number 8 since 2023 (ahem, against the Western Force).

    But the lineout options would be great. And there should be no issue of getting over the gain line. And surely Finau is more of an 8 than he is a lock, and Robertson doesn’t seem to have any qualms of playing him there.

    What was it that Scott Robertson said back in July? Oh right:

    Jul 2  /  Sport

    ‘Test footy’s a big man’s game' - Scott Robertson explains All Black selections

    ‘Test footy’s a big man’s game' - Scott Robertson explains All Black selections

    Watch: There's some surprising calls in the first All Black team of the year, but a common theme throughout.

    This is Test footy and those are some big men. Rugby really is pretty simple when you think about it.

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    @Mauss

    If you were keen on that, why not Parker at 8? That gives plenty of height and a guy who has been in that shirt a bit lately?

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    @gt12 Played NPC at the weekend and only joined the squad today after a 26 hour flight.

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    @nzzp Shouldn't have dropped CLW.

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    I just don't want to see Savea and Kirifi on the field at the same time - like ever.

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    @sparky said in All Blacks v Argentina I:

    @gt12 Played NPC at the weekend and only joined the squad today after a 26 hour flight.

    Should be ready to go by this weekend then!

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    Likely 23 going from latest updates in the media:

    1. De Groot
    2. Taylor
    3. Newell
    4. Barrett (c)
    5. Holland
    6. Va'ai
    7. Kirifi
    8. Savea
    9. Ratima
    10. Barrett
    11. Ioane
    12. Barrett
    13. Proctor
    14. Reece
    15. Jordan
    16. Taukei'aho
    17. Norris
    18. Tosi
    19. Parker
    20. Lakai
    21. Preston/Christie
    22. McKenzie
    23. Tavatavanawai/Leinert-Brown
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    @Frank said in All Blacks v Argentina I:

    I just don't want to see Savea and Kirifi on the field at the same time - like ever.

    Lol you'll likely see it this week.

    According to the Justin Marshall, Razor is a massive fan of Peter Lakai so I doubt we'll see Kirifi and Savea together much longer than this week.

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    It's really strange Lio Willie isn't in this squad - at least as cover for Jacobson/Sititi for the first 2 tests

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    @Canes4life said in All Blacks v Argentina I:

    @Frank said in All Blacks v Argentina I:

    I just don't want to see Savea and Kirifi on the field at the same time - like ever.

    Lol you'll likely see it this week.

    According to the Justin Marshall, Razor is a massive fan of Peter Lakai so I doubt we'll see Kirifi and Savea together much longer than this week.

    The combo is too small for test rugby.
    Lakai has more power, so that'll be an improvement

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    Having Savea, Kirifi and Lakai in the 23 goes against everything they are saying about wanting size. Lakai OR Kirifi.

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    @Bovidae said in All Blacks v Argentina I:

    Having Savea, Kirifi and Lakai in the 23 goes against everything they are saying about wanting size. Lakai OR Kirifi.

    Lakai is much more suited to test rugby than Kirifi. He is built like a brick shithouse and will only put on more size as he develops. He's got the power game that not many other loosies have so he will be fine IMO.

    I don't think it will be a regular thing. I don't see Kirifi as a permanent fixture in the 23 moving forward, injuries will force their hand this week though. They may choose to have Tuipolotu on the bench and have Parker as loose cover though.

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