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    Could we move Mo’unga debate to an All Blacks 2026 thread?

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    @pakman said in All Blacks v Argentina I:

    Could we move Mo’unga debate to an All Blacks 2026 thread?

    Done

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    They can't start Jordie at 13 bloody hope not.

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    @brodean said in All Blacks v Argentina I:

    This game is shaping up as a bit of a banana skin game for the ABs with the amount of injured players, players coming back from injury, inexperienced, and players flying in late - and most importantly the unpredictable nature of the Pumas.

    Add to that , the natural assumption from many that the allblacks will improve this year and the draw is easier than last year , I see this season as a bit of a banana skin if we aren’t careful .

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    @canefan said in All Blacks v Argentina I:

    @game_film said in All Blacks v Argentina I:

    @brodean Banana skin days are long gone. This is a must front up or get embarrassed fixture since 2020.

    There should be no complacency, they have beaten us recently

    Some of the current squad selections and player management suggest otherwise.

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    @brodean said in All Blacks v Argentina I:

    @canefan said in All Blacks v Argentina I:

    @game_film said in All Blacks v Argentina I:

    @brodean Banana skin days are long gone. This is a must front up or get embarrassed fixture since 2020.

    There should be no complacency, they have beaten us recently

    Some of the current squad selections and player management suggest otherwise.

    The Argies are big physical boys, and we will rely on speed and skill

    Reminds me of a scene from Swingers

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    If we can't front physically, we will be the bitch team

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    @george33 said in All Blacks v Argentina I:

    They can't start Jordie at 13 bloody hope not.

    When has playing a fullback at centre not worked?

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    @george33 said in All Blacks v Argentina I:

    They can't start Jordie at 13 bloody hope not.

    After right wing, it’s his next best position….

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    This just came up on my feed. What a try by a 6 we let go too soon IMO.

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    @Canes4life good try. But if we had backs that chased and tackled like those in blue and white stripes, they would be called “useless”

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    @Canes4life said in All Blacks v Argentina I:

    This just came up on my feed. What a try by a 6 we let go too soon IMO.

    He wasn't helped by getting done over by the Hurricanes who continually selected Brad Shields at blindside in preference to him.

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    @Higgins said in All Blacks v Argentina I:

    @Canes4life said in All Blacks v Argentina I:

    This just came up on my feed. What a try by a 6 we let go too soon IMO.

    He wasn't helped by getting done over by the Hurricanes who continually selected Brad Shields at blindside in preference to him.

    More a case of getting our best players on the park at the time, Fifita could play lock aswell and formed a pretty good combination with Fatialofa. He was selected in the ABs as the next 6 after Kaino but I feel like they gave up on him too early. Could have been a weapon if they persisted with him IMO, especially when you compare him to the guys we have now.

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    From memory Fifita complained about having to play lock at Super level. Came across as a very talented athlete rather than a natural rugby player.

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    @Canes4life said in All Blacks v Argentina I:

    @Higgins said in All Blacks v Argentina I:

    @Canes4life said in All Blacks v Argentina I:

    This just came up on my feed. What a try by a 6 we let go too soon IMO.

    He wasn't helped by getting done over by the Hurricanes who continually selected Brad Shields at blindside in preference to him.

    More a case of getting our best players on the park at the time, Fifita could play lock aswell and formed a pretty good combination with Fatialofa. He was selected in the ABs as the next 6 after Kaino but I feel like they gave up on him too early. Could have been a weapon if they persisted with him IMO, especially when you compare him to the guys we have now.

    Similar obstacles with James Blackwell in that position.

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    @Mauss said in All Blacks v Argentina I:

    It’s not going to happen but this seems like a great time for Robertson to try a 6. Vaa’i 7. Savea 8. Finau combination. Sure, the breakdown might be a bit messy. And yeah, Finau hasn’t played at number 8 since 2023 (ahem, against the Western Force).

    But the lineout options would be great. And there should be no issue of getting over the gain line. And surely Finau is more of an 8 than he is a lock, and Robertson doesn’t seem to have any qualms of playing him there.

    What was it that Scott Robertson said back in July? Oh right:

    Jul 2  /  Sport

    ‘Test footy’s a big man’s game' - Scott Robertson explains All Black selections

    ‘Test footy’s a big man’s game' - Scott Robertson explains All Black selections

    Watch: There's some surprising calls in the first All Black team of the year, but a common theme throughout.

    This is Test footy and those are some big men. Rugby really is pretty simple when you think about it.

    I'm quite pleased to hear Razor say this.

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    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Argentina I:

    From memory Fifita complained about having to play lock at Super level. Came across as a very talented athlete rather than a natural rugby player.

    Was definitely a freak athlete. Should have popped him on the wing.

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    @Chris-B said in All Blacks v Argentina I:

    @Mauss said in All Blacks v Argentina I:

    It’s not going to happen but this seems like a great time for Robertson to try a 6. Vaa’i 7. Savea 8. Finau combination. Sure, the breakdown might be a bit messy. And yeah, Finau hasn’t played at number 8 since 2023 (ahem, against the Western Force).

    But the lineout options would be great. And there should be no issue of getting over the gain line. And surely Finau is more of an 8 than he is a lock, and Robertson doesn’t seem to have any qualms of playing him there.

    What was it that Scott Robertson said back in July? Oh right:

    Jul 2  /  Sport

    ‘Test footy’s a big man’s game' - Scott Robertson explains All Black selections

    ‘Test footy’s a big man’s game' - Scott Robertson explains All Black selections

    Watch: There's some surprising calls in the first All Black team of the year, but a common theme throughout.

    This is Test footy and those are some big men. Rugby really is pretty simple when you think about it.

    I'm quite pleased to hear Razor say this.

    The he rolls out Ardie at 8 and Kirifi at 7

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    @KiwiMurph That part I'm less impressed with.

    I'm hoping these are interim measures and not just ushering Rassie into another RWC! 🙂

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    @Canes4life He has had a decent career after leaving New Zealand with Wasps, the Scarlets and Tonga but nothing exceptional. I think NZ Rugby got the best out of him.

    Apparently he's just joined newly promoted Top 14 side Montauban:

    Jul 3

    Vaea Fifita to leave Scarlets to join French TOP 14 side Montauban

    Vaea Fifita to leave Scarlets to join French TOP 14 side Montauban

    Scarlets can confirm that Vaea Fifita is leaving the club to join newly-promoted French Top 14 club US Montauban. The 33-year-old Tonga international joined the Scarlets in 2022 from Wasps and played…

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    @sparky said in All Blacks v Argentina I:

    @Canes4life He has had a decent career after leaving New Zealand with Wasps, the Scarlets and Tonga but nothing exceptional. I think NZ Rugby got the best out of him.

    Apparently he's just joined newly promoted Top 14 side Montauban:

    Jul 3

    Vaea Fifita to leave Scarlets to join French TOP 14 side Montauban

    Vaea Fifita to leave Scarlets to join French TOP 14 side Montauban

    Scarlets can confirm that Vaea Fifita is leaving the club to join newly-promoted French Top 14 club US Montauban. The 33-year-old Tonga international joined the Scarlets in 2022 from Wasps and played…

    He was great with the Scarlets

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