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  • BovidaeB Offline
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    As an example, here was the NZ Barbarian U18 XV from last year.

    NZ Barbarians U18.jpg

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    Watching the Wellington final on SS2 atm. This kid Fletcher Cooper (only year 11) is very impressive. Has a bigger boot than all our AB 10s already. The Canes better have this kid locked down.

    Elijah Solomona who’s rumoured to be going to the Warriors is having a blinder. Two tries already, looking like a young Ardie. Absolutely dominating his Wellington College opposition.

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    @Canes4life said in NZ Schools Rugby 2025:

    Watching the Wellington final on SS2 atm. This kid Fletcher Cooper (only year 11) is very impressive. Has a bigger boot than all our AB 10s already. The Canes better have this kid locked down.

    Elijah Solomona who’s rumoured to be going to the Warriors is having a blinder. Two tries already, looking like a young Ardie. Absolutely dominating his Wellington College opposition.

    Gez that was a good game. That kid Solomoana certainly looks a bloody loosie, was prepared to do some bloody hard work at times too. You right about that young Copper kid, looks to have a lot of skill, not just kicking, some of his passing in those conditions were pretty good too.

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    @Dan54 said in NZ Schools Rugby 2025:

    @Canes4life said in NZ Schools Rugby 2025:

    Watching the Wellington final on SS2 atm. This kid Fletcher Cooper (only year 11) is very impressive. Has a bigger boot than all our AB 10s already. The Canes better have this kid locked down.

    Elijah Solomona who’s rumoured to be going to the Warriors is having a blinder. Two tries already, looking like a young Ardie. Absolutely dominating his Wellington College opposition.

    Gez that was a good game. That kid Solomoana certainly looks a bloody loosie, was prepared to do some bloody hard work at times too. You right about that young Copper kid, looks to have a lot of skill, not just kicking, some of his passing in those conditions were pretty good too.

    I was gobsmacked when I learned Cooper was only year 11. He’s going to be even more dominant by the time he gets to year 13. The thing I like about him the most is he’s got natural leadership skills, he was by far the most dominant voice on the park even though he was the youngest on the field.

    Yep, Solomona was excellent and I thought the St Pats prop with pink headgear, along with the their hooker Riley Browne were instrumental. All will be playing Hurricanes development footy you’d hope.

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    It's hard to know who is in the frame for the NZS squad because a lot of games aren't seen, particularly 1A games.

    This 1st 5 seems to be a man (boy) for the big occasion.

    The Press
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    Kings College made a last gasp escape to win a place in the final this weekend, at AGS's expense. They will play St Kent's at EP. Might go along for a look

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    @Bovidae said in NZ Schools Rugby 2025:

    It's hard to know who is in the frame for the NZS squad because a lot of games aren't seen, particularly 1A games.

    This 1st 5 seems to be a man (boy) for the big occasion.

    The Press

    He's had big wraps down south, believe he'd be eligible for the Barbarians U18 next year too. Really looks to have filled out his frame since 2023 too, for obvious reasons. Expect him to be around one of the squads.

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    @Bovidae said in NZ Schools Rugby 2025:

    This 1st 5 seems to be a man (boy) for the big occasion.

    I thought both first fives were good in this game. Taylor obviously has an appetite for the big moments but Jake Hill, the King’s HS 10, is a fantastic runner of the ball, breaking the SBHS defence nearly every time he attacked the line.

    This was the first game I’ve seen from King’s HS but their attack was very interesting to watch. They played almost exclusively off 9, which isn’t something you see that often in NZ Rugby, with the halfback distributing directly to different forward pods. Their use of pods was interesting as well: instead of having preformed sets of 3 ready to receive the ball, you had multiple individual runners in motion. It was only after the ball carrier had received the ball, that support players would flock to the carrier. This approach has a few advantages: first of all, you have players in motion rather than standing ready, waiting for the ball to come. And secondly, it’s much harder for a defence to anticipate where the brunt of offensive impact is going to occur, making the attack more unpredictable.

    At the same time, this unpredictability is also the fatal flaw of the system, as the support players themselves weren’t always ready to form a pod on the fly. As a result, King’s HS carriers would often get isolated, leading to easy turnovers for SBHS. It’s a very ambitious and demanding attack – only apt for a school which has both Tony Brown and Ben Smith among its old boys – but with such young and inexperienced players, it’s perhaps no surprise that the wheels occasionally fell off slightly.

    Still, you’d have to say that the King’s HS attack worked well, most of the time. It allowed the team to move effectively up the field, and then you’d have Hill injecting himself into the line at pace from 1st or 2nd receiver, exposing the retreating SBHS defenders and cutting them open. The passage around the 50 minute-mark is a good example of this system, with Hill making multiple devastating runs in the same sequence of play.

    Freeman Roofing Southern Schools Rugby Final SBHS 1st XV v King's HS 1st XV

    It's hard to know who is in the frame for the NZS squad because a lot of games aren't seen, particularly 1A games.

    I’ve honestly been surprised by how many games are available online. I think I’ve watched First XV games from all of the competitions, apart from the 1A (which, admittedly, is a considerable blind spot). Still, I wouldn’t really have a clue who’s in the frame for NZ Schools selection. If anything, watching those games emphasized for me what a difficult selection process NZ Schools must be. So many different programs and so many players on different places in their development curve. Seems like a stab in the dark.

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    @Mauss

    I watched a replay of the full game on Sky but here are the highlights of the OBHS-King's HS game from a few weeks back if you haven't seen it.

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    I went along to the King's St Kent's rugby final at EP today, the game was enjoyable, flowing, a clash of two styles, and thoroughly unmolested by the ref and the officials. St K came out hot with a forward dominated game and a huge pack, rumbled over for three first half tries almost at will. King's has the superior backline, more mobile pack and seemed more fit, and once they got to grips fronting up in the collision area physically, and as St K started to tire, King's got on top and pulled out convincing winners. I enjoyed the game more than the ref dominated pro game slop we are fed most of the time

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    Westlake beat Whangarei Boys 39-18 in the NH final, although it was only 25-18 inside the last 5 with both sides trading tries most of the game.

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    southland boys beat christchurch boys? 32 29?
    close but southland won

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    @canefan

    yeah, was at a club game today, much better watch than the pros

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    @ploughboy said in NZ Schools Rugby 2025:

    southland boys beat christchurch boys? 32 29?
    close but southland won

    Yep, full game here:

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    @taniwharugby was privileged enough to call this game for Sportsway on Saturday your right on the money Whangarei Boys were right in the contest until the last 10 minutes or so
    For me it came down West Lake having a stronger bench Whangarei had lost their very good winger Kauri Flay Alker who broke is jaw in the semi against Rosmini the week before but unfortunately apart from a couple of bench players who were into every thing there was nothing to counter punch with
    Whilst not the result Whangarei were looking for they did have 1 of the 2 best players on the paddock no 8 and skipper Brock Reid who was sensational in a beaten team
    Others to impress was open side flanker Jordon Young who has some engine has a bit of Kara Pryor about him
    Skipper Henare Parangi who has awesome footwork finished off a brilliant individual try
    Fullback Tametai Whihongi is very elusive and knows how to find the line as he did in the final
    Casey Wright in the midfield is a very good player but I did think he was under utilised Josh McRae is a very heady 1st five and it would not surprise me if he turns in a Blues age group team.

    Both locks Hugh Manson & Ashton Williams worked really hard
    Both are very tall , Williams is the son of former Auckland & Northland lock Bryce Williams and at 17 is almost as tall as his dad
    Great shift also from prop Jacques Miller there was a noticeable shift at scrum time when he left the field

    For Westlake one name stands out above several other outstanding performers Matthew (Matt ) Flemming
    The centre for WL is tall and rangy and quick finished off a brilliant individual try he’s an absolute freak of an athlete who holds the record for the Auckland secondary schools 400 metres 50.01s was the time
    He also won the long jump title as well.
    Being heavily pursued by the Crusaders academy at the minute.

    Solomona Tuitupou a tall rangy 6 is a nephew of Sam , and like is uncle hits hard and is a handful with ball in hand
    Ollie Davies is very tidy fullback with an accurate boot ,Nico Jena’s the 12 a very intelligent player.

    Skipper Arlo Leith led by example and was everywhere
    Harry Cornelius is very tall already over 2 metres just gobbles up everything that comes his way including opposition line out ball.

    Gotta say I was real impressed with giant tighthead prop kaiva Tulimanu went the entire 80 minutes and was a constant menace on the carry.

    WL were great off the bench as well every none more so than halfback lee Hanru Greyvensteyn ..man this kid is lightening if given space he caused WBH all sorts of issues with his pace
    All in all a deserved win to Westlake which gives them 6 titles in a row

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    Match Details for Schools/Under 18 sides in 2025

    Saturday 20th September (St Paul’s Collegiate, Hamilton)
    NZ Schools vs NZ Barbarians U18 – 2pm

    Saturday 20th September (St Paul’s Collegiate, Hamilton)
    NZ Māori U18 v Chiefs Selection – 12pm

    Thursday 25th September (St Paul’s Collegiate, Hamilton)
    NZ Māori U18 v NZ Barbarians U18 – 2pm

    Monday 29th September (Viking Rugby Club, Canberra)
    NZ Schools vs Australia U18 – 4:05pm

    Saturday 4th October (Viking Rugby Club, Canberra)
    NZ Schools vs Australia U18 – 4:05pm

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    @Steven-Harris said in NZ Schools Rugby 2025:

    Whilst not the result Whangarei were looking for they did have 1 of the 2 best players on the paddock no 8 and skipper Brock Reid who was sensational in a beaten team

    I watched this game last night. I agree, Reid was very good in a beaten team but doesn't look to be the tallest for a no.8.

    For Westlake one name stands out above several other outstanding performers Matthew (Matt ) Flemming

    Very quick. With that speed he would be a good chance to make the NZ Schools or Barbarians, probably as a winger for the former. Two of the NZS wingers last year are actually centres, and Y13s this year.

    Being heavily pursued by the Crusaders academy at the minute.

    Seems to be the case with Westlake players.

    Solomona Tuitupou a tall rangy 6 is a nephew of Sam , and like is uncle hits hard and is a handful with ball in hand

    Another who must be a chance to make one of the teams.

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    The Australian squads have been announced.

    Nick Wasiliev  /  Aug 31

    Australia U18, Australian Schoolboys squads confirmed for upcoming New Zealand, Fiji series

    Australia U18, Australian Schoolboys squads confirmed for upcoming New Zealand, Fiji series
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    Looks like a very strong side, with several returnees from last year such as Angus Grover, Kingsley Uys, Isaac Fonua, Will Ross, Jonty Fowler, TJ Talaileva and Heinz Lemoto. The latter, I’ve read, will only move to Toulouse in December.

    There’s also several of last year’s Australia U16s which were seemingly very highly rated in Australian rugby circles, such as Justice Taumoepau (back row), Talen Risati (first five), Hasani Bloomfield (tighthead), Taione Taka (centre), Tahj Smith (lock) and Jarryd King (fullback). For those interested, their game against the Waratahs U17s – the AU U16s coming out as victors 43 to 5 – is available on YouTube:

    While certain players like Risati certainly look talented, it’s hard to gauge their level, as the Waratahs U17s didn’t look too well-organized. My main takeaway was that the U16s looked well coached and prepared. Again, it’s another sign that Rugby Australia is taking age grade rugby and the development pathways seriously in the past few years.

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    I think the NZ Schools have five players who could be back from last year's squad. There are also players from the Barbarians U18s and Māori U18s who should be selected too.

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