All Blacks v Springboks I

[Bones]

@W32 not with Faf looking fit as a fiddle.

[W32]

@Bones said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

@W32 not with Faf looking fit as a fiddle.

Power and grace with a little verve thrown in.

[nostrildamus]

@W32 said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

@Bones said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

@W32 not with Faf looking fit as a fiddle.

Power and grace with a little verve thrown in.

Close, but not enough hair product.

[MN5]

@W32 said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

We’re screwed:
https://www.sarugbymag.co.za/fitzy-backs-blacks-beat-tired-boks/

Did he say if he’d pick any Boks in a combined 15 ?

[Dan54]

I been behind all this a bit, computer stuffed. I was thinking on the Fakatava thoughts, I quite happy he hasn't been brought in. He is almost eligible for Tonga again, so don't stuff it up with a fill in role

[frugby]

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[taniwharugby]

So is that Cortez and is Wayne Smith replacing him?

[mencey]

@pakman said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

@Bovidae said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

@pakman Must be geo-blocked as it isn't behind a paywall.

Cheers @Bovidae . I imagine that will be within two of actual team.

Please no ALB or Christie. both are well past it.

[ACT Crusader]

@MN5 said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

@W32 said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

We’re screwed:
https://www.sarugbymag.co.za/fitzy-backs-blacks-beat-tired-boks/

Did he say if he’d pick any Boks in a combined 15 ?

He didn’t. But I will go as far as saying, I wouldn’t select one Springbok, Puma or Wallaby in a combined RC XV.

Puma captain and former Crusader might make the bench….

[ACT Crusader]

@mencey said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

@pakman said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

@Bovidae said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

@pakman Must be geo-blocked as it isn't behind a paywall.

Cheers @Bovidae . I imagine that will be within two of actual team.

Please no ALB or Christie. both are well past it.

I think Christie is a necessity given where we are at with halfbacks, but they can easily select Quinn for the bench back spot.

[Bovidae]

As mentioned:

https://www.allblacks.com/news/ardie-savea-to-play-100th-all-blacks-test-against-south-africa

[Yeetyaah]

All Blacks match-day 23 (Test caps in brackets; * denotes debutant)

1. Ethan de Groot (34)
2. Codie Taylor (100) 
3. Fletcher Newell (27)
4. Scott Barrett (83) (Captain)  
5. Tupou Vaa’i (42)
6. Simon Parker (1)
7. Ardie Savea (99) (Vice-Captain)
8. Wallace Sititi (11)
9. Finlay Christie (25)
10. Beauden Barrett (138) 
11. Rieko Ioane (85)
12. Jordie Barrett (73) (Vice-Captain) 
13. Billy Proctor (6)
14. Emoni Narawa (3)
15. Will Jordan (46)

16. Samisoni Taukei’aho (35)
17. Tamaiti Williams (19)
18. Tyrel Lomax (45)
19. Fabian Holland (5) 
20. Du’Plessis Kirifi (4)
21. Kyle Preston *
22. Quinn Tupaea (17)
23. Damian McKenzie (66)

Unavailable for selection: Patrick Tuipulotu (minor facial fracture), Cortez Ratima (rib fracture), Timoci Tavatavanawai (fractured radius), Cam Roigard (foot stress fracture), Noah Hotham (high ankle sprain)

[KiwiMurph]

A halfback named Preston from Wellington on the bench vs Boks gives me confidence.

[antipodean]

@Yeetyaah said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

All Blacks match-day 23 (Test caps in brackets; * denotes debutant)

1. Ethan de Groot (34)
2. Codie Taylor (100) 
3. Fletcher Newell (27)
4. Scott Barrett (83) (Captain)  
5. Tupou Vaa’i (42)
6. Simon Parker (1)
7. Ardie Savea (99) (Vice-Captain)
8. Wallace Sititi (11)
9. Finlay Christie (25)
10. Beauden Barrett (138) 
11. Rieko Ioane (85)
12. Jordie Barrett (73) (Vice-Captain) 
13. Billy Proctor (6)
14. Emoni Narawa (3)
15. Will Jordan (46)

16. Samisoni Taukei’aho (35)
17. Tamaiti Williams (19)
18. Tyrel Lomax (45)
19. Fabian Holland (5) 
20. Du’Plessis Kirifi (4)
21. Kyle Preston *
22. Quinn Tupaea (17)
23. Damian McKenzie (66)

Unavailable for selection: Patrick Tuipulotu (minor facial fracture), Cortez Ratima (rib fracture), Timoci Tavatavanawai (fractured radius), Cam Roigard (foot stress fracture), Noah Hotham (high ankle sprain)

An injury away from a backrow of midgets.

[KiwiMurph]

@antipodean said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

@Yeetyaah said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

All Blacks match-day 23 (Test caps in brackets; * denotes debutant)

1. Ethan de Groot (34)
2. Codie Taylor (100) 
3. Fletcher Newell (27)
4. Scott Barrett (83) (Captain)  
5. Tupou Vaa’i (42)
6. Simon Parker (1)
7. Ardie Savea (99) (Vice-Captain)
8. Wallace Sititi (11)
9. Finlay Christie (25)
10. Beauden Barrett (138) 
11. Rieko Ioane (85)
12. Jordie Barrett (73) (Vice-Captain) 
13. Billy Proctor (6)
14. Emoni Narawa (3)
15. Will Jordan (46)

16. Samisoni Taukei’aho (35)
17. Tamaiti Williams (19)
18. Tyrel Lomax (45)
19. Fabian Holland (5) 
20. Du’Plessis Kirifi (4)
21. Kyle Preston *
22. Quinn Tupaea (17)
23. Damian McKenzie (66)

Unavailable for selection: Patrick Tuipulotu (minor facial fracture), Cortez Ratima (rib fracture), Timoci Tavatavanawai (fractured radius), Cam Roigard (foot stress fracture), Noah Hotham (high ankle sprain)

An injury away from a backrow of midgets.

Wouldn't that be 2 injuries away? Vaai can shift to 6 and Holland can come on at lock

[antipodean]

@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

@antipodean said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

@Yeetyaah said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

All Blacks match-day 23 (Test caps in brackets; * denotes debutant)

1. Ethan de Groot (34)
2. Codie Taylor (100) 
3. Fletcher Newell (27)
4. Scott Barrett (83) (Captain)  
5. Tupou Vaa’i (42)
6. Simon Parker (1)
7. Ardie Savea (99) (Vice-Captain)
8. Wallace Sititi (11)
9. Finlay Christie (25)
10. Beauden Barrett (138) 
11. Rieko Ioane (85)
12. Jordie Barrett (73) (Vice-Captain) 
13. Billy Proctor (6)
14. Emoni Narawa (3)
15. Will Jordan (46)

16. Samisoni Taukei’aho (35)
17. Tamaiti Williams (19)
18. Tyrel Lomax (45)
19. Fabian Holland (5) 
20. Du’Plessis Kirifi (4)
21. Kyle Preston *
22. Quinn Tupaea (17)
23. Damian McKenzie (66)

Unavailable for selection: Patrick Tuipulotu (minor facial fracture), Cortez Ratima (rib fracture), Timoci Tavatavanawai (fractured radius), Cam Roigard (foot stress fracture), Noah Hotham (high ankle sprain)

An injury away from a backrow of midgets.

Wouldn't that be 2 injuries away? Vaai can shift to 6 and Holland can come on at lock

Which presupposes the coaches are smart enough to consider that. And that just creates another problem to be managed.

TBH I'm resigned to the Eden Park fortress being sacked. And immediately after Razor's assistants are moved on.

[Frank]

@antipodean said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

TBH I'm resigned to the Eden Park fortress being sacked. And immediately after Razor's assistants are moved on.

Lowering expectations to rock bottom.
Smart psychological ploy.

[Mattasaurus]

9 & 11 give me concerns.

Rieko will need to improve 1000% under the high balls.... As they will be coming his way.

Bench looking good.

[nostrildamus]

Dalton P' or Lakai on the bench would look stronger IMO. Apart from that, hefty bench, hope they provide impact (effectively).

[ShaquilleOatmeal]

@antipodean said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

@antipodean said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

@Yeetyaah said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

All Blacks match-day 23 (Test caps in brackets; * denotes debutant)

1. Ethan de Groot (34)
2. Codie Taylor (100) 
3. Fletcher Newell (27)
4. Scott Barrett (83) (Captain)  
5. Tupou Vaa’i (42)
6. Simon Parker (1)
7. Ardie Savea (99) (Vice-Captain)
8. Wallace Sititi (11)
9. Finlay Christie (25)
10. Beauden Barrett (138) 
11. Rieko Ioane (85)
12. Jordie Barrett (73) (Vice-Captain) 
13. Billy Proctor (6)
14. Emoni Narawa (3)
15. Will Jordan (46)

16. Samisoni Taukei’aho (35)
17. Tamaiti Williams (19)
18. Tyrel Lomax (45)
19. Fabian Holland (5) 
20. Du’Plessis Kirifi (4)
21. Kyle Preston *
22. Quinn Tupaea (17)
23. Damian McKenzie (66)

Unavailable for selection: Patrick Tuipulotu (minor facial fracture), Cortez Ratima (rib fracture), Timoci Tavatavanawai (fractured radius), Cam Roigard (foot stress fracture), Noah Hotham (high ankle sprain)

An injury away from a backrow of midgets.

Wouldn't that be 2 injuries away? Vaai can shift to 6 and Holland can come on at lock

Which presupposes the coaches are smart enough to consider that. And that just creates another problem to be managed.

TBH I'm resigned to the Eden Park fortress being sacked. And immediately after Razor's assistants are moved on.

It's fairly likely they play the last 20-30 minutes with Savea, Kirifi and Vaa'i fatigued from the first three quarters of the game and then being asked to cover more ground.