All Blacks vs Springboks II
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After a massive shift last night and a few injury concerns, what’s everyone thinking for test 2 in Welly?
I wouldn’t make too many changes personally and I think Razor will stick with the majority of the 23 that got the job done last night.
Taylor probably won’t be playing and Narawa definitely won’t be so McCalister comes in.
I’d go with:
- Williams
- Taukei’aho
- Newell (Lomax can continue to return off the bench for now)
- Barrett
- Va’ai
- Parker
- Savea
- Sititi
- Ratima/Christie
- Barrett
- Clarke
- Barrett
- Proctor
- Jordan
- Love
- McCalister
- De Groot
- Lomax
- Holland
- Jacobson
- Christie/Preston
- McKenzie
- Tupaea
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Taylor is a big loss. I thought he was close to our best before he went off. Scrum was pretty solid too.
It would be great to hear an honest assessment from the front row on what was happening when we lost those scrums. We got robbed on a dominant scrum also, so it will be fascinating how that plays out next week.
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After a massive shift last night and a few injury concerns, what’s everyone thinking for test 2 in Welly?
I wouldn’t make too many changes personally and I think Razor will stick with the majority of the 23 that got the job done last night.
Taylor probably won’t be playing and Narawa definitely won’t be so McCalister comes in.
I’d go with:
- Williams
- Taukei’aho
- Newell (Lomax can continue to return off the bench for now)
- Barrett
- Va’ai
- Parker
- Savea
- Sititi
- Ratima/Christie
- Barrett
- Clarke
- Barrett
- Proctor
- Jordan
- Love
- McCalister
- De Groot
- Lomax
- Holland
- Jacobson
- Christie/Preston
- McKenzie
- Tupaea
@Canes4life any changes will be just covering for injury so not delving too deep into speculative selecting.
I think Dmac starting at 15 would be stronger. But agree with giving Love some game time.
I do prefer Jacobsen on bench to Kirifi. But would prefer another big body there, which by default is Finau.
(FYI it's McAlister.)
How does Rassie react?
Etzebeth and Snyman in. Does he have any other options? The bench last night was uninspiring by Saffa standards.
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@Canes4life any changes will be just covering for injury so not delving too deep into speculative selecting.
I think Dmac starting at 15 would be stronger. But agree with giving Love some game time.
I do prefer Jacobsen on bench to Kirifi. But would prefer another big body there, which by default is Finau.
(FYI it's McAlister.)
How does Rassie react?
Etzebeth and Snyman in. Does he have any other options? The bench last night was uninspiring by Saffa standards.
@booboo said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@Canes4life any changes will be just covering for injury so not delving too deep into speculative selecting.
I think Dmac starting at 15 would be stronger. But agree with giving Love some game time.
I do prefer Jacobsen on bench to Kirifi. But would prefer another big body there, which by default is Finau.
(FYI it's McAlister.)
How does Rassie react?
Etzebeth and Snyman in. Does he have any other options? The bench last night was uninspiring by Saffa standards.
Surely after Finau’s dogshite performances in the NPC and ABs this year puts him firmly out of contention
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@booboo said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@Canes4life any changes will be just covering for injury so not delving too deep into speculative selecting.
I think Dmac starting at 15 would be stronger. But agree with giving Love some game time.
I do prefer Jacobsen on bench to Kirifi. But would prefer another big body there, which by default is Finau.
(FYI it's McAlister.)
How does Rassie react?
Etzebeth and Snyman in. Does he have any other options? The bench last night was uninspiring by Saffa standards.
Surely after Finau’s dogshite performances in the NPC and ABs this year puts him firmly out of contention
@jimmyb said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@booboo said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@Canes4life any changes will be just covering for injury so not delving too deep into speculative selecting.
I think Dmac starting at 15 would be stronger. But agree with giving Love some game time.
I do prefer Jacobsen on bench to Kirifi. But would prefer another big body there, which by default is Finau.
(FYI it's McAlister.)
How does Rassie react?
Etzebeth and Snyman in. Does he have any other options? The bench last night was uninspiring by Saffa standards.
Surely after Finau’s dogshite performances in the NPC and ABs this year puts him firmly out of contention
Yep a big no to Finau. It’s either Lakai or Jacobson for me.
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@jimmyb said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@booboo said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@Canes4life any changes will be just covering for injury so not delving too deep into speculative selecting.
I think Dmac starting at 15 would be stronger. But agree with giving Love some game time.
I do prefer Jacobsen on bench to Kirifi. But would prefer another big body there, which by default is Finau.
(FYI it's McAlister.)
How does Rassie react?
Etzebeth and Snyman in. Does he have any other options? The bench last night was uninspiring by Saffa standards.
Surely after Finau’s dogshite performances in the NPC and ABs this year puts him firmly out of contention
Yep a big no to Finau. It’s either Lakai or Jacobson for me.
@Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@jimmyb said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@booboo said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@Canes4life any changes will be just covering for injury so not delving too deep into speculative selecting.
I think Dmac starting at 15 would be stronger. But agree with giving Love some game time.
I do prefer Jacobsen on bench to Kirifi. But would prefer another big body there, which by default is Finau.
(FYI it's McAlister.)
How does Rassie react?
Etzebeth and Snyman in. Does he have any other options? The bench last night was uninspiring by Saffa standards.
Surely after Finau’s dogshite performances in the NPC and ABs this year puts him firmly out of contention
Yep a big no to Finau. It’s either Lakai or Jacobson for me.
Jacobson makes the most sense with Lakai still on the way back to full fitness (?). Or both, not sure why we aren’t doing the 6-2 bench considering the tactics employed last night
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@jimmyb said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@booboo said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@Canes4life any changes will be just covering for injury so not delving too deep into speculative selecting.
I think Dmac starting at 15 would be stronger. But agree with giving Love some game time.
I do prefer Jacobsen on bench to Kirifi. But would prefer another big body there, which by default is Finau.
(FYI it's McAlister.)
How does Rassie react?
Etzebeth and Snyman in. Does he have any other options? The bench last night was uninspiring by Saffa standards.
Surely after Finau’s dogshite performances in the NPC and ABs this year puts him firmly out of contention
Yep a big no to Finau. It’s either Lakai or Jacobson for me.
Jacobson makes the most sense with Lakai still on the way back to full fitness (?). Or both, not sure why we aren’t doing the 6-2 bench considering the tactics employed last night
@jimmyb said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@jimmyb said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@booboo said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@Canes4life any changes will be just covering for injury so not delving too deep into speculative selecting.
I think Dmac starting at 15 would be stronger. But agree with giving Love some game time.
I do prefer Jacobsen on bench to Kirifi. But would prefer another big body there, which by default is Finau.
(FYI it's McAlister.)
How does Rassie react?
Etzebeth and Snyman in. Does he have any other options? The bench last night was uninspiring by Saffa standards.
Surely after Finau’s dogshite performances in the NPC and ABs this year puts him firmly out of contention
Yep a big no to Finau. It’s either Lakai or Jacobson for me.
Jacobson makes the most sense with Lakai still on the way back to full fitness (?). Or both, not sure why we aren’t doing the 6-2 bench considering the tactics employed last night
Yeah that could be a good shout. Especially if it’s shite weather.
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Taylor is a big loss. I thought he was close to our best before he went off. Scrum was pretty solid too.
It would be great to hear an honest assessment from the front row on what was happening when we lost those scrums. We got robbed on a dominant scrum also, so it will be fascinating how that plays out next week.
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
Taylor is a big loss. I thought he was close to our best before he went off. Scrum was pretty solid too.
It would be great to hear an honest assessment from the front row on what was happening when we lost those scrums. We got robbed on a dominant scrum also, so it will be fascinating how that plays out next week.
To balance out the Codie books we lost a couple of lineouts on his throws.
Yeah, I think there were a couple of scrums that we were penalised on that should have been resets but it seems the ref had decided we were the culprits of every collapsed scrum. Our scrum is usually pretty decent so I tend to think it was more an off night than a poor scrum - I guess we'll find out on Saturday.
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@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
Taylor is a big loss. I thought he was close to our best before he went off. Scrum was pretty solid too.
It would be great to hear an honest assessment from the front row on what was happening when we lost those scrums. We got robbed on a dominant scrum also, so it will be fascinating how that plays out next week.
To balance out the Codie books we lost a couple of lineouts on his throws.
Yeah, I think there were a couple of scrums that we were penalised on that should have been resets but it seems the ref had decided we were the culprits of every collapsed scrum. Our scrum is usually pretty decent so I tend to think it was more an off night than a poor scrum - I guess we'll find out on Saturday.
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Just watched the PC with Ryan. Taylor is definitely out and Narawa will most probably be out too. Cortez is looking likely and even Hotham could be back for next week. Sounds like they will be bringing in Bell to replace Taylor.
@akan004 said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
Just watched the PC with Ryan. Taylor is definitely out and Narawa will most probably be out too. Cortez is looking likely and even Hotham could be back for next week. Sounds like they will be bringing in Bell to replace Taylor.
There’s a Shield defence against Ta$man, Bell is unavailable for AB duty
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@Canes4life any changes will be just covering for injury so not delving too deep into speculative selecting.
I think Dmac starting at 15 would be stronger. But agree with giving Love some game time.
I do prefer Jacobsen on bench to Kirifi. But would prefer another big body there, which by default is Finau.
(FYI it's McAlister.)
How does Rassie react?
Etzebeth and Snyman in. Does he have any other options? The bench last night was uninspiring by Saffa standards.
@booboo said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
How does Rassie react?
Etzebeth and Snyman in. Does he have any other options? The bench last night was uninspiring by Saffa standards.
Also any halfback, including Williams, would have to be better than Williams last night.
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@Nepia one of those lineout losses were dodgy. The Bok lifters threw one of their jumpers over to our side. Last time I checked that wasn’t allowed.
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@Nepia one of those lineout losses were dodgy. The Bok lifters threw one of their jumpers over to our side. Last time I checked that wasn’t allowed.
Yeah they were doing that most lineouts they won, it was smart as the ref didn't give a shit. I think the one you're talking about was so not straight they caught it on the AB side of the AB jumpers.
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@booboo said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
How does Rassie react?
Etzebeth and Snyman in. Does he have any other options? The bench last night was uninspiring by Saffa standards.
Also any halfback, including Williams, would have to be better than Williams last night.
@booboo said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@booboo said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
How does Rassie react?
Etzebeth and Snyman in. Does he have any other options? The bench last night was uninspiring by Saffa standards.
Also any halfback, including Williams, would have to be better than Williams last night.
With those conditions and his relative strengths, the Boks would’ve been better served starting Reinach And playing him for the majority of the match.
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The Springboks are angry and will be wanting to show a defiant response to losing at Eden Park. They will go after perceived vulnerabilities in our set piece work.
Great opportunity for the ABs to go 2-0 on the South Africans and to get one hand on the Rugby Championship.
