Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz
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@taniwharugby I wonder if the prosecution fucked up by going for murder. He certainly contributed to her death and he's a sleazy shitbag but murder might be a stretch. Anyone got a legal definition?
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Very broadly manslaughter would be his actions were responsible for her death and murder would be that the he had the intent to cause her death.
There seems to me to be some confusion or uncertainty over what her physical actions were that triggered the final part of the incident, and led him to allegedly choke her and then lock her out on the balcony. She seems to have been throwing ornamental "rocks" at him (they looked more like stones, or even gravel sized, but not as small as pebbles). She also seems to have been attacking him with muay thai (that is thai kickboxing right?). There also seems some suggestion that she attacked him with some sort of object.
An alleged transcript of the recording published in the Goldie Bulletin (not sure how reputable this is) to me implies that he accuses her of trying to kill him, had hit him with something, and him ordering her to let it go [i.e. an object] while a struggle ensues.
The recording is tantalising evidence but still leaves you in the dark as to what happened.
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why?? Some things just aren't meant for social media!
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there has been a heap of them recently. Video of toddlers trying to wake up their dead/passed out druggy parents. Who the fuck films this shit? What the fuck is wrong with people.
Humanity is fucked.
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@taniwharugby said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
why?? Some things just aren't meant for social media!
I'm guessing shock tactics. Like the then successful AIDS campaign here in Oz. Or road safety campaigns.
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@infidel said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
Moving on from the earth shattering news that Hillary prefers TV3 coffee for a moment.....
Is there anyone more deserving of an unsuspected head butt or punch in the face than Mike Hosking?
Yes.. lots of media people.... top of my list are Jeremy Wells and John Campbell
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@Baron-Silas-Greenback I don't really have a view either way on Wells, but Campbell is def up there for me!
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On the theme of the thread title (yes, I know, it's radical)..... Stuff even managed this article the other day
All these years and all those farts and I never realised that eating ripe smelly food created ripe smelly gas inside me. Imagine if these news folks weren't around to educate us.
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@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@infidel said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
Moving on from the earth shattering news that Hillary prefers TV3 coffee for a moment.....
Is there anyone more deserving of an unsuspected head butt or punch in the face than Mike Hosking?
Yes.. lots of media people.... top of my list are Jeremy Wells and John Campbell
Yes and in that order too. Mikey Havoc waddling into third place
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I reckon the jury in the Gable Tostee trial is leaning toward acquitting him. They've leaned heavily on the judge for instructions the last couple of days. I think its quite telling that the judge gave two affirmations which seem to work in GT's favour. First, the judge affirmed that GT removing WW from his apartment onto his balcony (from which she almost immediately jumped) constitutes him removing her from his home. Second, the judge affirmed that words are not physical force when it comes to the question "did he use excessive force in removing her from his home" (at one point he allegedly said something like "I should chuck you off the balcony you goddamn psycho bitch").
To me it looks like the jury is leaning toward acquitting him and they are working through the concerns of the holdouts, so that they can get a unanimous verdict.
Fucking gripping stuff huh? Tostee is a douche, no doubt, but WW was nuttier than squirrel turd. Murder would be a travesty. Manslaughter still on the table.
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@Tregaskis It seems like a classic case of "We find the defendant Not Guilty your honour, but we still reckon you should find some minor punishment for him for not being entirely clean either"
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@Donsteppa
haha yeah he is a giant turd, but I don't think he murdered her, doesn't the very definition of murder require pre-meditation and I would expect direct involvement, ie actually pushing her??Surely manslaughter woulda been much easier to prove, but I guess they had their reasons for going for murder?
