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All Blacks vs Springboks II

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  • ACT CrusaderA Offline
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    Lomax will hopefully be better for the run last week.

    Hoping for a bit more out of Williams when he comes on too.

    Last week it was interesting how we used the lock/loose forward substitutions. Was influenced by HIA plus how the game was panning out. Holland is there for insurance largely IMO because like Whitelock and Retallick who were largely 80 minute players as a combo, Barrett and Vaa’i are also.

    Backs look good. I thought Clarke also, but like having a fast footed winger in Carter. Jordan is also good on the chase. Unlike @His-Bobness not too concerned about their heights, it’s all timing these days.

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      Pleased with that team. Hopefully will learn a lot about Carter and Noah. See how many minutes the likes of McAllister and Love get.

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      • His BobnessH His Bobness

        No power wing? Assuming I have the metric conversions right, Carter is 5’9”” and McKenzie is 5’8”. Jordan is much taller (about 6’0”), but are they too little collectively for the inevitable blitzkreig of high balls?

        PS: Carter is a giant compared with Grant Batty - who was 5’5”. The story was the groundsmen at Athletic Park wouldn’t mow the turf so Batty could run undetected down the touch line.

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        @His-Bobness said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

        No power wing? Assuming I have the metric conversions right, Carter is 5’9”” and McKenzie is 5’8”. Jordan is much taller (about 6’0”), but are they too little collectively for the inevitable blitzkreig of high balls?

        PS: Carter is a giant compared with Grant Batty - who was 5’5”. The story was the groundsmen at Athletic Park wouldn’t mow the turf so Batty could run undetected down the touch line.

        LOL Love that !!!

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        • His BobnessH His Bobness

          No power wing? Assuming I have the metric conversions right, Carter is 5’9”” and McKenzie is 5’8”. Jordan is much taller (about 6’0”), but are they too little collectively for the inevitable blitzkreig of high balls?

          PS: Carter is a giant compared with Grant Batty - who was 5’5”. The story was the groundsmen at Athletic Park wouldn’t mow the turf so Batty could run undetected down the touch line.

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          @His-Bobness have we really played a game to utilise a power winger?

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          • His BobnessH His Bobness

            No power wing? Assuming I have the metric conversions right, Carter is 5’9”” and McKenzie is 5’8”. Jordan is much taller (about 6’0”), but are they too little collectively for the inevitable blitzkreig of high balls?

            PS: Carter is a giant compared with Grant Batty - who was 5’5”. The story was the groundsmen at Athletic Park wouldn’t mow the turf so Batty could run undetected down the touch line.

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            @His-Bobness said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

            No power wing? Assuming I have the metric conversions right, Carter is 5’9”” and McKenzie is 5’8”. Jordan is much taller (about 6’0”), but are they too little collectively for the inevitable blitzkreig of high balls?

            PS: Carter is a giant compared with Grant Batty - who was 5’5”. The story was the groundsmen at Athletic Park wouldn’t mow the turf so Batty could run undetected down the touch line.

            Ioane is taller than all of them. What’s your point ?

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            • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

              @His-Bobness have we really played a game to utilise a power winger?

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              @taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

              @His-Bobness have we really played a game to utilise a power winger?

              yeah, not sure thats our game plan and hasnt been for a while, we're not even really trying to put the wing in a one on one in space kind of situatation

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                With Clarke, Ioane and Narawa out, they still haven't gone back to Reece. Hopefully, they've moved on from him for good. Lienert-Brown also may have slipped down the pecking order permanently.

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                • His BobnessH His Bobness

                  No power wing? Assuming I have the metric conversions right, Carter is 5’9”” and McKenzie is 5’8”. Jordan is much taller (about 6’0”), but are they too little collectively for the inevitable blitzkreig of high balls?

                  PS: Carter is a giant compared with Grant Batty - who was 5’5”. The story was the groundsmen at Athletic Park wouldn’t mow the turf so Batty could run undetected down the touch line.

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                  @His-Bobness said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                  No power wing? Assuming I have the metric conversions right, Carter is 5’9”” and McKenzie is 5’8”. Jordan is much taller (about 6’0”), but are they too little collectively for the inevitable blitzkreig of high balls?

                  Yeah be nice to have a response to the monsters the likes of Ireland and SA have on the wing and when we play Australia, Tenfoot Toole is going to tear us apart.

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                    McKenzie was best on the park last week under the high ball. Be interesting to see how/when Love is used, im guessing he is considered wing cover?

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                      Watching a YouTube discussion on Game 1 between Jean de Villiers, Schalk Burger, and Robbie Fleck.

                      Fuck me the whinging about the refs...

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                      • D DurryMexted

                        McKenzie was best on the park last week under the high ball. Be interesting to see how/when Love is used, im guessing he is considered wing cover?

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                        @DurryMexted I wondered this too, who does he come on for - Barrett, Mackenzie, Carter? Or is he solely inury cover...

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                        • NTAN NTA

                          Watching a YouTube discussion on Game 1 between Jean de Villiers, Schalk Burger, and Robbie Fleck.

                          Fuck me the whinging about the refs...

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                          @NTA Saw the same one. Had to turn it off - was cringe inducing. Wondered if they were the same after Aus/SA game 1!

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                          • ShaquilleOatmealS ShaquilleOatmeal

                            With Clarke, Ioane and Narawa out, they still haven't gone back to Reece. Hopefully, they've moved on from him for good. Lienert-Brown also may have slipped down the pecking order permanently.

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                            @ShaquilleOatmeal said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                            With Clarke, Ioane and Narawa out, they still haven't gone back to Reece. Hopefully, they've moved on from him for good. Lienert-Brown also may have slipped down the pecking order permanently.

                            I sincerely hope all of the above is true. Finally getting rid of ALB in particular would be a huge step in the right direction.

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                              Right, look forward to seeing Carter. He's been talked up a lot, now is his time to show what he's made of.

                              Would have started Christie over Hotham as I think Hotham could add more in the back end of the game with the sting taken out of it and more tired bodies running round with Christie starting but it isn't the end of the world at the same time.

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                                Congratulations to Leroy Carter.

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                                • His BobnessH His Bobness

                                  No power wing? Assuming I have the metric conversions right, Carter is 5’9”” and McKenzie is 5’8”. Jordan is much taller (about 6’0”), but are they too little collectively for the inevitable blitzkreig of high balls?

                                  PS: Carter is a giant compared with Grant Batty - who was 5’5”. The story was the groundsmen at Athletic Park wouldn’t mow the turf so Batty could run undetected down the touch line.

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                                  @His-Bobness said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                  giant compared with Grant Batty

                                  Batty was a power house tho . . . if he got sucked into a mall, he'd be the one who finished with the ball!

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                                    Reiko has a bereavement in the family.
                                    My source let me down with Clarke. Unless he got a niggle yesterday.

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                                    @chchfanatic This Lashes guy said on Monday that Will Jordan told him he's playing 14 ? Don't no .

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                                      Liking the balance of this side. Looking forward to seeing how Carter goes, will add a bit of zip to our attack.

                                      Hoping we attack more this game and give our backline more opportunity to show what they are capable of.

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                                        Hopefully they've given Carter the lowdown on expectations this week:

                                        • chase Noah's box kicks and Beaudies up'n'unders, but not so hard that you might actually catch one
                                        • if you do get to one on the full, just knock it somewhere, doesn't matter where
                                        • you'll be expected to make a lot of tackles around the rucks, especially near our tryline
                                        • don't worry about running support lines out wide as nobody will pass it to you there - if you want to actually touch the ball you'll need to take some crash-ball off 12 or a forward, or call for a cross-kick (this can often work, especially if you're heavily marked)
                                        • if you do find yourself with the ball out wide, you have a few options - kick it away (chip or grubber, your call), slow down and cut back in towards the fatties, or pick a defender out and run straight at them. Under no circumstances are you to try and beat someone on the outside, or find a support player that tries to link up (unless you pop a pass aimed at their head or feet in order to end the play).

                                        Good luck son!

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                                        • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                                          @Bovidae said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                          @chchfanatic said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                          Carter and Clarke on the wings.
                                          Cant wait to see Carter get a run.

                                          Carter will need to be better under the high ball than he showed for the Chiefs at times. But at least we've got some speed and x-factor on the wings.

                                          What is this thing called x-factor? It’s so elusive that it’s meaning has evaded me….

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                                          @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                          What is this thing called x-factor? It’s so elusive that it’s meaning has evaded me….

                                          Think of Reece in an AB jersey. The opposite of that. I'm happy to be of assistance.

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