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All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I

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    Changes I would make for the Wallabies test:

    • Name the team on Wednesday. Controversial, I know, but scrap the Thursday palaver. Give the media and fans more time to review, critique and talk about the game.
    • Start the Crusader front row - Williams, Taylor, Newell. Shocking aye.
    • Get Holland in to start at lock. If you are intent on starting Scooter and Vaa’i, move Vaa’i to 6 and Parker to 8 or the bench.
    • Bring in Luke Jacobson. Whether for Sititi or Kirifi, we need more size.
    • Give Love a start at 10. The time is now, it’s a big game and time for him to feel the blowtorch as a starter in the 10 jersey. And if you don’t genuinely see him as a 10 then bring in Reihana. No more DMac or Beauden at 10. Zero, zilch, nada more opportunities at 10. It’s killing us. And only select one of them in the 23.
    • Go back to Jordan at fullback and bring Clarke into the starting XV. Put Ioane on the other wing.
    • Give the Jordie/Quinn combo a start. There’s a skill set between the two of them that we need. Proctor can be on the bench or watching from the stands.
    • Pick whatever halfbacks are fit….
    • Use the midfield pod more, it actually created space in the Welly test, but select the 1st 5 that will use it.
    • No box kicks in our own 22.
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    • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

      Changes I would make for the Wallabies test:

      • Name the team on Wednesday. Controversial, I know, but scrap the Thursday palaver. Give the media and fans more time to review, critique and talk about the game.
      • Start the Crusader front row - Williams, Taylor, Newell. Shocking aye.
      • Get Holland in to start at lock. If you are intent on starting Scooter and Vaa’i, move Vaa’i to 6 and Parker to 8 or the bench.
      • Bring in Luke Jacobson. Whether for Sititi or Kirifi, we need more size.
      • Give Love a start at 10. The time is now, it’s a big game and time for him to feel the blowtorch as a starter in the 10 jersey. And if you don’t genuinely see him as a 10 then bring in Reihana. No more DMac or Beauden at 10. Zero, zilch, nada more opportunities at 10. It’s killing us. And only select one of them in the 23.
      • Go back to Jordan at fullback and bring Clarke into the starting XV. Put Ioane on the other wing.
      • Give the Jordie/Quinn combo a start. There’s a skill set between the two of them that we need. Proctor can be on the bench or watching from the stands.
      • Pick whatever halfbacks are fit….
      • Use the midfield pod more, it actually created space in the Welly test, but select the 1st 5 that will use it.
      • No box kicks in our own 22.
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      @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

      Give the Jordie/Quinn combo a start

      Not confident about Tupaea's defence when playing centre. Seems a lot more comfortable at 12.

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      • TimT Tim

        @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

        Give the Jordie/Quinn combo a start

        Not confident about Tupaea's defence when playing centre. Seems a lot more comfortable at 12.

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        @Tim said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

        @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

        Give the Jordie/Quinn combo a start

        Not confident about Tupaea's defence when playing centre. Seems a lot more comfortable at 12.

        There might be some hold ya breath moments, but he trains at both so I’d give it a go. That’s where I’m at. I’m willing to see just about anything tried.

        I’m not sold on the Ioane at centre and Clarke on the left wing. Saw too many bad reads in combination. But would have both on the wings.

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        • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

          Changes I would make for the Wallabies test:

          • Name the team on Wednesday. Controversial, I know, but scrap the Thursday palaver. Give the media and fans more time to review, critique and talk about the game.
          • Start the Crusader front row - Williams, Taylor, Newell. Shocking aye.
          • Get Holland in to start at lock. If you are intent on starting Scooter and Vaa’i, move Vaa’i to 6 and Parker to 8 or the bench.
          • Bring in Luke Jacobson. Whether for Sititi or Kirifi, we need more size.
          • Give Love a start at 10. The time is now, it’s a big game and time for him to feel the blowtorch as a starter in the 10 jersey. And if you don’t genuinely see him as a 10 then bring in Reihana. No more DMac or Beauden at 10. Zero, zilch, nada more opportunities at 10. It’s killing us. And only select one of them in the 23.
          • Go back to Jordan at fullback and bring Clarke into the starting XV. Put Ioane on the other wing.
          • Give the Jordie/Quinn combo a start. There’s a skill set between the two of them that we need. Proctor can be on the bench or watching from the stands.
          • Pick whatever halfbacks are fit….
          • Use the midfield pod more, it actually created space in the Welly test, but select the 1st 5 that will use it.
          • No box kicks in our own 22.
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          @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

          Changes I would make for the Wallabies test:

          • Name the team on Wednesday. Controversial, I know, but scrap the Thursday palaver. Give the media and fans more time to review, critique and talk about the game.
          • Start the Crusader front row - Williams, Taylor, Newell. Shocking aye.
          • Get Holland in to start at lock. If you are intent on starting Scooter and Vaa’i, move Vaa’i to 6 and Parker to 8 or the bench.
          • Bring in Luke Jacobson. Whether for Sititi or Kirifi, we need more size.
          • Give Love a start at 10. The time is now, it’s a big game and time for him to feel the blowtorch as a starter in the 10 jersey. And if you don’t genuinely see him as a 10 then bring in Reihana. No more DMac or Beauden at 10. Zero, zilch, nada more opportunities at 10. It’s killing us. And only select one of them in the 23.
          • Go back to Jordan at fullback and bring Clarke into the starting XV. Put Ioane on the other wing.
          • Give the Jordie/Quinn combo a start. There’s a skill set between the two of them that we need. Proctor can be on the bench or watching from the stands.
          • Pick whatever halfbacks are fit….
          • Use the midfield pod more, it actually created space in the Welly test, but select the 1st 5 that will use it.
          • No box kicks in our own 22.

          Is Jacobsen 131kg ?

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          • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

            @Number-10 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

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            What time is breakfast?

            Asking for a friend

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            @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

            @Number-10 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

            Screenshot 2025-09-19 at 6.19.25 PM.png

            What time is breakfast?

            Asking for a friend

            @Jegga ?

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              I'm still disappointed with the nature of the loss. Losing in a tight tussle and going down to the wire I can live with, but the way we folded was disgusting. Never want to see that happen ever again. Anyhoo, gotta rinse it off and move on...unless the Wallabies thrash us and then I'll be joining the baying mob calling for the coaches and key players heads to roll. When does Schmidt come off contract?

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              • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                @Tim said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                Give the Jordie/Quinn combo a start

                Not confident about Tupaea's defence when playing centre. Seems a lot more comfortable at 12.

                There might be some hold ya breath moments, but he trains at both so I’d give it a go. That’s where I’m at. I’m willing to see just about anything tried.

                I’m not sold on the Ioane at centre and Clarke on the left wing. Saw too many bad reads in combination. But would have both on the wings.

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                @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                @Tim said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                Give the Jordie/Quinn combo a start

                Not confident about Tupaea's defence when playing centre. Seems a lot more comfortable at 12.

                There might be some hold ya breath moments, but he trains at both so I’d give it a go. That’s where I’m at. I’m willing to see just about anything tried.

                I’m not sold on the Ioane at centre and Clarke on the left wing. Saw too many bad reads in combination. But would have both on the wings.

                Ioane isn't playing great at wing and I'd have thought he is more of a 11 than 14.

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                • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                  @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                  @Tim said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                  @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                  Give the Jordie/Quinn combo a start

                  Not confident about Tupaea's defence when playing centre. Seems a lot more comfortable at 12.

                  There might be some hold ya breath moments, but he trains at both so I’d give it a go. That’s where I’m at. I’m willing to see just about anything tried.

                  I’m not sold on the Ioane at centre and Clarke on the left wing. Saw too many bad reads in combination. But would have both on the wings.

                  Ioane isn't playing great at wing and I'd have thought he is more of a 11 than 14.

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                  @nostrildamus he’s played both.

                  Jordan needs to keep playing fullback to continue that progress.

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                  • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                    @nostrildamus he’s played both.

                    Jordan needs to keep playing fullback to continue that progress.

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                    @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                    @nostrildamus he’s played both.

                    Jordan needs to keep playing fullback to continue that progress.

                    yes but not often
                    https://all.rugby/player/rieko-ioane#google_vignette
                    Center : 137 times ( Outside Centre 64%, Inside Centre 3% )
                    Winger : 66 times ( Left Wing 29%, Right Wing 4% )

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                    • allblackfan2A allblackfan2

                      I'm still disappointed with the nature of the loss. Losing in a tight tussle and going down to the wire I can live with, but the way we folded was disgusting. Never want to see that happen ever again. Anyhoo, gotta rinse it off and move on...unless the Wallabies thrash us and then I'll be joining the baying mob calling for the coaches and key players heads to roll. When does Schmidt come off contract?

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                      @allblackfan2 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                      I'm still disappointed with the nature of the loss. Losing in a tight tussle and going down to the wire I can live with, but the way we folded was disgusting. Never want to see that happen ever again. Anyhoo, gotta rinse it off and move on...unless the Wallabies thrash us and then I'll be joining the baying mob calling for the coaches and key players heads to roll. When does Schmidt come off contract?

                      It's a headspace/leadership thing that's the problem. There's panic and there's giving up. The Caketin was the latter.

                      Same team, I suspect but with Roigard or Ratima

                      Forget Schmidt. He's made it as clear as he can that he's not interested while Robertson & NZR Board are in place

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                      • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                        @allblackfan2 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                        I'm still disappointed with the nature of the loss. Losing in a tight tussle and going down to the wire I can live with, but the way we folded was disgusting. Never want to see that happen ever again. Anyhoo, gotta rinse it off and move on...unless the Wallabies thrash us and then I'll be joining the baying mob calling for the coaches and key players heads to roll. When does Schmidt come off contract?

                        It's a headspace/leadership thing that's the problem. There's panic and there's giving up. The Caketin was the latter.

                        Same team, I suspect but with Roigard or Ratima

                        Forget Schmidt. He's made it as clear as he can that he's not interested while Robertson & NZR Board are in place

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                        @Victor-Meldrew that does highlight a point, about the sorry state we find ourselves in. Being an AB coach used to be something highly sought after and monumental to those that achieved it.

                        Now we've got guys going "nah, fuck that".

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                        • BonesB Bones

                          @Victor-Meldrew that does highlight a point, about the sorry state we find ourselves in. Being an AB coach used to be something highly sought after and monumental to those that achieved it.

                          Now we've got guys going "nah, fuck that".

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                          @Bones said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                          @Victor-Meldrew that does highlight a point, about the sorry state we find ourselves in. Being an AB coach used to be something highly sought after and monumental to those that achieved it.

                          Now we've got guys going "nah, fuck that".

                          It is def. a sorry state of affairs. But the real point is if you throw shit an an AB coach instead of supporting him, don't be surprised if people do say "Nah. fuck that"..

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                            I'm not sure I can be bothered watching this given some of players couldn't be bothered to try last weekend.

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                              When Tuipolutu will be back again ? He is the best lock to have on the bench. Actually, I think that his combo with Holland could be the best association in the second row but this won't happen as SB is a lock in. Vaa'i's could be back at 6 with Parker on the bench.

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                                The fact we are still tossing Rieko's name around "cos of his defense" .. sums up the issues we have in midfield for me.

                                Ikitau and Suaalii are far better and more complete midfielders and create so many opportunities for the outsides... we simply have no center's standing up and demanding to be picked at least not any with a complete game on both defense and offense.

                                The only caveat to this is -- I don't recall any midfielders looking good outside BB or Dmac in recent years.

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                                  The fact we are still tossing Rieko's name around "cos of his defense" .. sums up the issues we have in midfield for me.

                                  Ikitau and Suaalii are far better and more complete midfielders and create so many opportunities for the outsides... we simply have no center's standing up and demanding to be picked at least not any with a complete game on both defense and offense.

                                  The only caveat to this is -- I don't recall any midfielders looking good outside BB or Dmac in recent years.

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                                  @Mattasaurus yep, everyone looking at our midfield and outsides, when 10 is the biggest issue.

                                  This year the injuries.at 9 have not helped either, but the main problem is 10.

                                  EOYT they need to take 2 young 10s with them.

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                                    I'm not sure I can be bothered watching this given some of players couldn't be bothered to try last weekend.

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                                    @sparky said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                                    I'm not sure I can be bothered watching this given some of players couldn't be bothered to try last weekend.

                                    Liar

                                    You'll be watching in your All Blacks pyjamas

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                                    • M Mattasaurus

                                      The fact we are still tossing Rieko's name around "cos of his defense" .. sums up the issues we have in midfield for me.

                                      Ikitau and Suaalii are far better and more complete midfielders and create so many opportunities for the outsides... we simply have no center's standing up and demanding to be picked at least not any with a complete game on both defense and offense.

                                      The only caveat to this is -- I don't recall any midfielders looking good outside BB or Dmac in recent years.

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                                      @Mattasaurus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                                      The fact we are still tossing Rieko's name around "cos of his defense" .. sums up the issues we have in midfield for me.

                                      Ikitau and Suaalii are far better and more complete midfielders and create so many opportunities for the outsides... we simply have no center's standing up and demanding to be picked at least not any with a complete game on both defense and offense.

                                      The only caveat to this is -- I don't recall any midfielders looking good outside BB or Dmac in recent years.

                                      Chiefs midfield pretty much always looks good. Blues was notably worse with Barrett than it had been with Plummer.

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                                        For me they should pick

                                        1. T Williams
                                        2. C Taylor
                                        3. T Lomax
                                        4. F Holland
                                        5. S Barret
                                        6. T Vaai
                                        7. D Papali'i
                                        8. W Sititi
                                        9. C Roigard/K Preston
                                        10. R Love
                                        11. C Clkarke
                                        12. Q Tupeau
                                        13. R Iaoane
                                        14. L Carter
                                        15. J Barret (c)

                                        16,. E de Groot
                                        17. S Takelouko
                                        18. F Newell
                                        19. P Tuipolotu/S Darry
                                        20. A Savea
                                        21. Preston/J Viljoen
                                        22. D Mackenzie
                                        23. L Fainga'anuku

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                                          For me they should pick

                                          1. T Williams
                                          2. C Taylor
                                          3. T Lomax
                                          4. F Holland
                                          5. S Barret
                                          6. T Vaai
                                          7. D Papali'i
                                          8. W Sititi
                                          9. C Roigard/K Preston
                                          10. R Love
                                          11. C Clkarke
                                          12. Q Tupeau
                                          13. R Iaoane
                                          14. L Carter
                                          15. J Barret (c)

                                          16,. E de Groot
                                          17. S Takelouko
                                          18. F Newell
                                          19. P Tuipolotu/S Darry
                                          20. A Savea
                                          21. Preston/J Viljoen
                                          22. D Mackenzie
                                          23. L Fainga'anuku

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                                          @tubbyj said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                                          For me they should pick

                                          1. T Williams
                                          2. C Taylor
                                          3. T Lomax
                                          4. F Holland
                                          5. S Barret
                                          6. T Vaai
                                          7. D Papali'i
                                          8. W Sititi
                                          9. C Roigard/K Preston
                                          10. R Love
                                          11. C Clkarke
                                          12. Q Tupeau
                                          13. R Iaoane
                                          14. L Carter
                                          15. J Barret (c)

                                          16,. E de Groot
                                          17. S Takelouko
                                          18. F Newell
                                          19. P Tuipolotu/S Darry
                                          20. A Savea
                                          21. Preston/J Viljoen
                                          22. D Mackenzie
                                          23. L Fainga'anuku

                                          Good to see you're picking a few debutantes. Keen on seeing Takelouko.

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