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Blues 2017

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    These are the players signed for the Blues so far. Fill in gaps if I missed anyone.

    Pauliasi Manu
    Sam Prattley
    Alex Hodgman
    Charlie Faumuina
    Ofa Tu'ungafasi
    Sione Mafileo

    James Parsons

    Patrick Tuipulotu
    Jimmy Tupou
    Scott Scrafton
    Josh Goodhue
    Gerard Cowley-Tuioti

    Jerome Kaino
    Steven Luatua
    Akira Ioane
    Kara Pryor
    Blake Gibson

    Augustine Pulu
    Billy Guyton
    Sam Nock

    Ihaia West
    Piers Francis
    Stephen Perofeta

    Sonny Bill Williams
    George Moala
    TJ Faiane
    Rieko Ioane

    Melani Nanai
    Jordan Trainor
    Michael Collins
    Matt Duffie
    Rene Ranger

    How many full contracts are we allowed? Last year we had 33 on full contracts and 9 on WTG contracts, but we were allowed to have a bit more due to 7s. If all the players above are on full contracts, we have at most one more full contract left, which would likely go to a hooker.

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      As long as Kurt Eklund is nowhere near the side I don't care who it is. Su'a and Moulds would be my guess behind Parsons.

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        As long as Kurt Eklund is nowhere near the side I don't care who it is. Su'a and Moulds would be my guess behind Parsons.

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        @African-Monkey said in Blues 2017:

        As long as Kurt Eklund is nowhere near the side I don't care who it is. Su'a and Moulds would be my guess behind Parsons.

        Pleasants-Tate?

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          Isn't Pleasants-Tate with the Highlanders ?

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            Isn't Pleasants-Tate with the Highlanders ?

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            @cgrant

            Has he signed with them again?

            This year was a one year WTG contract

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              If we have offered GPT a contract, I think we'd have a good chance of getting him. He would make the 23 every week up here, but isn't guaranteed that at the Highlanders with Dixon and Coltman down there.

              @African-Monkey said in Blues 2017:

              As long as Kurt Eklund is nowhere near the side I don't care who it is. Su'a and Moulds would be my guess behind Parsons.

              With the way Eklund throws the ball, he should just go to the MLB, because his curve ball is something else.

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              • DiceD Dice

                These are the players signed for the Blues so far. Fill in gaps if I missed anyone.

                Pauliasi Manu
                Sam Prattley
                Alex Hodgman
                Charlie Faumuina
                Ofa Tu'ungafasi
                Sione Mafileo

                James Parsons

                Patrick Tuipulotu
                Jimmy Tupou
                Scott Scrafton
                Josh Goodhue
                Gerard Cowley-Tuioti

                Jerome Kaino
                Steven Luatua
                Akira Ioane
                Kara Pryor
                Blake Gibson

                Augustine Pulu
                Billy Guyton
                Sam Nock

                Ihaia West
                Piers Francis
                Stephen Perofeta

                Sonny Bill Williams
                George Moala
                TJ Faiane
                Rieko Ioane

                Melani Nanai
                Jordan Trainor
                Michael Collins
                Matt Duffie
                Rene Ranger

                How many full contracts are we allowed? Last year we had 33 on full contracts and 9 on WTG contracts, but we were allowed to have a bit more due to 7s. If all the players above are on full contracts, we have at most one more full contract left, which would likely go to a hooker.

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                @Dice Doesn't Ranger's contract expire this year? Has he re-signed?

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                  His contract with NH was for 2 seasons, from which they got great value out of him....assume the Blues one woulda been the same too?

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                    If we have offered GPT a contract, I think we'd have a good chance of getting him. He would make the 23 every week up here, but isn't guaranteed that at the Highlanders with Dixon and Coltman down there.

                    @African-Monkey said in Blues 2017:

                    As long as Kurt Eklund is nowhere near the side I don't care who it is. Su'a and Moulds would be my guess behind Parsons.

                    With the way Eklund throws the ball, he should just go to the MLB, because his curve ball is something else.

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                    @Dice If Pleasants Tate is available then he walks into our matchday 23. Would be great value off the bench.

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                      His contract with NH was for 2 seasons, from which they got great value out of him....assume the Blues one woulda been the same too?

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                      @taniwharugby said in Blues 2017:

                      His contract with NH was for 2 seasons, from which they got great value out of him....assume the Blues one woulda been the same too?

                      Media releases are sometimes very unclear on that point. From the media release from March 2015 (below), I understand that he was available for ITM/Mitre 10 Cup for N Harbour from 2015, so if his contract with NH was for two years, than I assume it was for 2015 and 2016.

                      The same media release only says that he will return to the Blues in 2016 but doesn't say for how long.

                      http://www.allblacks.com/News/26798/rene-ranger-signs-with-north-harbour-and-the-blues

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                        Yeah he was available in 2015 but had neck surgery before he left France.

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                          As usual, 9 and 10 are probably the biggest concerns.

                          Hooker and lock deserve plenty of attention too.

                          Parsons is out of the EOYT with neck/concussion issues. Greg Pleasants-Tate missed most of the NPC with a neck injury. Hopefully both will be fit, and we pickup Gafatasi Su'a from Counties (and formerly Auckland). Adrian Smith looked pretty good for NH, and Molds is tidy.

                          Anyone else worth considering?

                          At lock we need a good an "athletic lock" who is a good lineout option to partner "power lock" Tuipulotu. Goodhue may be too young. Cowley-Tuioti is promising, but may not be up to it (in height and ability). It would be good to see Fatialofa in the squad.

                          Fullback and wing looked to be covered now.

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                            Scrafton is a good lineout option. But can he deliver in the other aspects of the game ? SR is not at the same level than the Mitre 10 Cup.

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                              I'm interested to see who the WTG spots go to. I think we might see a surprise or two in there. We've consistently been a team that has taken a punt on a prospect or two with these spots.

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                                The 2017 Blues squad is:

                                Backs: Michael Collins (Otago), Matt Duffie (North Harbour), TJ Faiane (Auckland), Billy Guyton ( Ta$man), Rieko Ioane (Auckland), Matt Vaega (North Harbour), George Moala (Auckland), Melani Nanai (Auckland), Sam Nock (Northland), Declan O’Donnell (Taranaki), Stephen Perofeta (Taranaki), Augustine Pulu (Counties Manukau), Rene Ranger (North Harbour), Jordon Trainor (Waikato), Ihaia West (Hawkes Bay), Sonny Bill Williams (Counties Manukau), Piers Francis (Counties Manukau).

                                Forwards: Gerard Cowley-Tuioti (North Harbour), Epalahame Faiva (Waikato), Charlie Faumuina (Auckland), Blake Gibson (Auckland), Josh Goodhue (Northland), Alex Hodgman (Canterbury), Akira Ioane (Auckland), Jerome Kaino (Auckland), Steven Luatua (Auckland), Sione Mafileo (North Harbour), Pauliasi Manu (Counties Manukau), Matt Moulds (Northland), Brandon Nansen (North Harbour), James Parsons (North Harbour), Sam Prattley (Auckland), Kara Pryor (Northland), Scott Scrafton (Auckland), Murphy Taramai (North Harbour), Patrick Tuipulotu (Auckland), Jimmy Tupou (Counties Manukau), Ofa Tu’ungafasi (Auckland),

                                http://theblues.co.nz/experienced-players-return-2017/

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                                  The 2017 Blues squad is:

                                  Backs: Michael Collins (Otago), Matt Duffie (North Harbour), TJ Faiane (Auckland), Billy Guyton ( Ta$man), Rieko Ioane (Auckland), Matt Vaega (North Harbour), George Moala (Auckland), Melani Nanai (Auckland), Sam Nock (Northland), Declan O’Donnell (Taranaki), Stephen Perofeta (Taranaki), Augustine Pulu (Counties Manukau), Rene Ranger (North Harbour), Jordon Trainor (Waikato), Ihaia West (Hawkes Bay), Sonny Bill Williams (Counties Manukau), Piers Francis (Counties Manukau).

                                  Forwards: Gerard Cowley-Tuioti (North Harbour), Epalahame Faiva (Waikato), Charlie Faumuina (Auckland), Blake Gibson (Auckland), Josh Goodhue (Northland), Alex Hodgman (Canterbury), Akira Ioane (Auckland), Jerome Kaino (Auckland), Steven Luatua (Auckland), Sione Mafileo (North Harbour), Pauliasi Manu (Counties Manukau), Matt Moulds (Northland), Brandon Nansen (North Harbour), James Parsons (North Harbour), Sam Prattley (Auckland), Kara Pryor (Northland), Scott Scrafton (Auckland), Murphy Taramai (North Harbour), Patrick Tuipulotu (Auckland), Jimmy Tupou (Counties Manukau), Ofa Tu’ungafasi (Auckland),

                                  http://theblues.co.nz/experienced-players-return-2017/

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                                  @Stargazer So Faiva makes the Blues squad. Little is still available to either the Canes and Landers.

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                                    A few lucky fellows in the backs.

                                    Interesting to see Branden Nansen there.

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                                      @Stargazer So Faiva makes the Blues squad. Little is still available to either the Canes and Landers.

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                                      @Bovidae Do you rate Faiva?

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                                        Happy with the Faiva pickup.

                                        Outside backs is a bit of an issue - Declan is always injured, Rene hasnt refound his mojo, Nanai looks best at fullback, as do Trainor and Duffie.

                                        Be interesting to see how Faiane goes - his knees have been wrecked and he hasnt played since the U20 World Cup over a year ago.

                                        Forward pack looks promising.

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                                          @Bovidae Do you rate Faiva?

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                                          @Tim I do. I would have happily have had him in the Chiefs. Faiva is excellent around the field and does his core roles well enough. He would probably be the 3rd choice hooker in that squad to start the season but if Parsons is rated no.1 anything can happen.

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