NFL 2025
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Didn't expect Green Bay to lose let alone Carolina to complete flog the Falcons.
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Didn't expect Green Bay to lose let alone Carolina to complete flog the Falcons.
@MacDazzler said in NFL 2025:
Didn't expect Green Bay to lose let alone Carolina to complete flog the Falcons.
Even the most ardent Browns supporters wouldn’t have been confident winning against the Packers.
It’s been a round of surprises. The Bears winning.
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@MacDazzler said in NFL 2025:
Didn't expect Green Bay to lose let alone Carolina to complete flog the Falcons.
Even the most ardent Browns supporters wouldn’t have been confident winning against the Packers.
It’s been a round of surprises. The Bears winning.
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@ACT-Crusader said in NFL 2025:
The Bears winning.
Bears looking competent and winning! Ben Johnson looks a good head coach right now. He's made Caleb play to his strengths. Got to be stoked if you are a long suffering Bears fan like my mate
@ACT-Crusader said in NFL 2025:
The Bears winning.
Bears looking competent and winning! Ben Johnson looks a good head coach right now. He's made Caleb play to his strengths. Got to be stoked if you are a long suffering Bears fan like my mate
That flea-flicker was a thing of beauty
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Devastating news for the 49ers. Nick Bosa gone for the season with a torn ACL.
The one silver lining to the 49ers injury woes was that none were season ending - silver lining gone
The problem for the 49ers is they are on 2 different timelines - they have a lot of good young players who will be better next year however they also have a number of older players who dont have many years left plus a Defensive Coordinator in Saleh who is likely gone in the offseason to another head coaching opportunity.
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I can't get over how many teams still seem unwilling to bolster their O-line. Blind freddy can see it's the most important unit in any team and the early weeks have once again borne that out.
Houston is the prime example. Last year they couldn't do anything because Stroud was getting the shit beaten out of him. In the offseason they bafflingly decide to make their O-line appreciably worse, and now what's happening? They are 0-3 all because Stroud is getting the shit beaten out of him even more than last year.
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OL is a funny position. If you're passable, you're fine. If you're great you might be great, but it depends. If you're terrible, you might as well start planning for next season.
But I think it's that difference between mediocre and brilliant that hurts teams - the teams that convince themselves that they'll be okay and the rest of their offence can make up the difference are sometimes right as a bunch of journeymen strike a really good combination and you maybe get a career year or two.
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Its a typical problem that I think has multiple facets, and thats why its hard to solve.
One is the pay to talent disparity. Edge rushers and difference making interior d-linemen get paid. So that's where the talent goes.
Next is coaching, I am not sure there are a huge amount of really good o-line coaches.
3rd is the weight of expectation. Say there are 30 drop back situations in a game. If you have 3 good edge rushers and they each get to the QB just once, you are really happy as a defense. That means the o-line got it right 27 times, and probably look like they failed. -
Watching this season though, there are a lot of Quarterbacks getting called busts, with "bad mechanics" because they get enough time for their first read and their first read only before these huge fast rushers are on them.
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OL is a funny position. If you're passable, you're fine. If you're great you might be great, but it depends. If you're terrible, you might as well start planning for next season.
But I think it's that difference between mediocre and brilliant that hurts teams - the teams that convince themselves that they'll be okay and the rest of their offence can make up the difference are sometimes right as a bunch of journeymen strike a really good combination and you maybe get a career year or two.
OL is a funny position. If you're passable, you're fine. If you're great you might be great, but it depends. If you're terrible, you might as well start planning for next season.
Yes, if your O line is shit; you really are shit.
The Chiefs have an issue (Taylor) they need to sort. -
Its a typical problem that I think has multiple facets, and thats why its hard to solve.
One is the pay to talent disparity. Edge rushers and difference making interior d-linemen get paid. So that's where the talent goes.
Next is coaching, I am not sure there are a huge amount of really good o-line coaches.
3rd is the weight of expectation. Say there are 30 drop back situations in a game. If you have 3 good edge rushers and they each get to the QB just once, you are really happy as a defense. That means the o-line got it right 27 times, and probably look like they failed.@mariner4life said in NFL 2025:
Its a typical problem that I think has multiple facets, and thats why its hard to solve.
One is the pay to talent disparity. Edge rushers and difference making interior d-linemen get paid. So that's where the talent goes.
Next is coaching, I am not sure there are a huge amount of really good o-line coaches.
3rd is the weight of expectation. Say there are 30 drop back situations in a game. If you have 3 good edge rushers and they each get to the QB just once, you are really happy as a defense. That means the o-line got it right 27 times, and probably look like they failed.The other thing is college does nothing to prepare OL for the NFL. They play so few true passing sets that basically they have to learn on the fly. In particular the different ineligible downfield receiver rules makes the screen game much more relevant and puts a real emphasis on run blocking over pass blocking.
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@mariner4life said in NFL 2025:
Its a typical problem that I think has multiple facets, and thats why its hard to solve.
One is the pay to talent disparity. Edge rushers and difference making interior d-linemen get paid. So that's where the talent goes.
Next is coaching, I am not sure there are a huge amount of really good o-line coaches.
3rd is the weight of expectation. Say there are 30 drop back situations in a game. If you have 3 good edge rushers and they each get to the QB just once, you are really happy as a defense. That means the o-line got it right 27 times, and probably look like they failed.The other thing is college does nothing to prepare OL for the NFL. They play so few true passing sets that basically they have to learn on the fly. In particular the different ineligible downfield receiver rules makes the screen game much more relevant and puts a real emphasis on run blocking over pass blocking.
They play so few true passing sets that basically they have to learn on the fly.
One thing I do know about the O line is that pass and run plays are quite different as far as the O line is concerned.
And O linemen much prefer the running play, because they can power their way forward, without regard for being ineligible downfield.
Pass protection is more negative (basically just gettin in the way of the D line).
The NFL is a QB league, as compared to College.
More variety of game strategies in College football.
Michigan just "pounded the rock" for a whole game a season or two ago.
O line would have loved it!
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Holy shit the NFL keeps delivering.
Rams should have stomped the injury ravaged 49ers. But damn, game all over hte place, Mac Jones plays brilliantly and it goes to an OT finish. Ridiculous. What a product.
Holy shit the NFL keeps delivering.
Rams should have stomped the injury ravaged 49ers. But damn, game all over hte place, Mac Jones plays brilliantly and it goes to an OT finish. Ridiculous. What a product.
Jones is playing his way back into a starting job next year
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