All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I
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@nzzp A slightly more edgy, opinionated Captain would help.
@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@nzzp A slightly more edgy, opinionated Captain would help.
One not afraid to headbutt Razor is kinda edgy.
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@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@frugby said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
Proctor hasn't done enough on attack to offset his weaker defence. Rieko the best defender, but his attack has been so underwhelming. ALB past it. Leaves Fainga'anuku or Tupaea. I'd go QT with Leicester on the bench.
Tupaea's defence against the Springboks in the wider channel was dreadful. There's no way he's an upgrade on Proctor. He's an option at 12.
And who seriously suggests Fainga'anuku? A bloke that couldn't cement a wing spot, leaves to become one of the worst defenders in Top14 is somehow now considered All Black level?
What’s the other option then? Ioane and Proctor both been underwhelming, and I just don’t see ALB as the solution.
Could JB shift to 13?
@frugby said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@frugby said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
Proctor hasn't done enough on attack to offset his weaker defence. Rieko the best defender, but his attack has been so underwhelming. ALB past it. Leaves Fainga'anuku or Tupaea. I'd go QT with Leicester on the bench.
Tupaea's defence against the Springboks in the wider channel was dreadful. There's no way he's an upgrade on Proctor. He's an option at 12.
And who seriously suggests Fainga'anuku? A bloke that couldn't cement a wing spot, leaves to become one of the worst defenders in Top14 is somehow now considered All Black level?
What’s the other option then? Ioane and Proctor both been underwhelming, and I just don’t see ALB as the solution.
Could JB shift to 13?
Jordan. Similar level of distribution, pace to cover the outside break while he learns the defensive reads and a strike runner. Kicking is about on par for a centre too.
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@frugby said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@frugby said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
Proctor hasn't done enough on attack to offset his weaker defence. Rieko the best defender, but his attack has been so underwhelming. ALB past it. Leaves Fainga'anuku or Tupaea. I'd go QT with Leicester on the bench.
Tupaea's defence against the Springboks in the wider channel was dreadful. There's no way he's an upgrade on Proctor. He's an option at 12.
And who seriously suggests Fainga'anuku? A bloke that couldn't cement a wing spot, leaves to become one of the worst defenders in Top14 is somehow now considered All Black level?
What’s the other option then? Ioane and Proctor both been underwhelming, and I just don’t see ALB as the solution.
Could JB shift to 13?
Solve the problem at 10. Changing the 13 changes nothing, and in a non functioning backline a 13 can't impress on attack. It's only marginally better than what Robertson will probably do, which is axe a winger and bring back Reece and/or Clarke - thus demonstrating that he can adjust his plans, make the hard calls and demand accountability. Or honesty something something cough bullshit.
@reprobate 100% it all starts at first five.
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@nzzp A slightly more edgy, opinionated Captain would help.
@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@nzzp A slightly more edgy, opinionated Captain would help.
a few posters on here could step up
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@frugby said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@frugby said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
Proctor hasn't done enough on attack to offset his weaker defence. Rieko the best defender, but his attack has been so underwhelming. ALB past it. Leaves Fainga'anuku or Tupaea. I'd go QT with Leicester on the bench.
Tupaea's defence against the Springboks in the wider channel was dreadful. There's no way he's an upgrade on Proctor. He's an option at 12.
And who seriously suggests Fainga'anuku? A bloke that couldn't cement a wing spot, leaves to become one of the worst defenders in Top14 is somehow now considered All Black level?
What’s the other option then? Ioane and Proctor both been underwhelming, and I just don’t see ALB as the solution.
Could JB shift to 13?
Jordan. Similar level of distribution, pace to cover the outside break while he learns the defensive reads and a strike runner. Kicking is about on par for a centre too.
@Bones said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@frugby said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@frugby said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
Proctor hasn't done enough on attack to offset his weaker defence. Rieko the best defender, but his attack has been so underwhelming. ALB past it. Leaves Fainga'anuku or Tupaea. I'd go QT with Leicester on the bench.
Tupaea's defence against the Springboks in the wider channel was dreadful. There's no way he's an upgrade on Proctor. He's an option at 12.
And who seriously suggests Fainga'anuku? A bloke that couldn't cement a wing spot, leaves to become one of the worst defenders in Top14 is somehow now considered All Black level?
What’s the other option then? Ioane and Proctor both been underwhelming, and I just don’t see ALB as the solution.
Could JB shift to 13?
Jordan. Similar level of distribution, pace to cover the outside break while he learns the defensive reads and a strike runner. Kicking is about on par for a centre too.
You’d be pleased he’s not fullback either
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@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@nzzp A slightly more edgy, opinionated Captain would help.
a few posters on here could step up
@nzzp said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@nzzp A slightly more edgy, opinionated Captain would help.
a few posters on here could step up
posters on here are not edgy and opinionated enough?!
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Kellaway is out with a calf injury
The Roar reporting that it will be a back 3 of Jorgensen Potter and Toole with JOC at 10 and Edmed on the bench.
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
Kellaway is out with a calf injury
The Roar reporting that it will be a back 3 of Jorgensen Potter and Toole with JOC at 10 and Edmed on the bench.
That back 3 is a vulnerable. Potter isn’t a great defender.
JOC will get the team moving forward though
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Kellaway is out with a calf injury
The Roar reporting that it will be a back 3 of Jorgensen Potter and Toole with JOC at 10 and Edmed on the bench.
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
Kellaway is out with a calf injury
The Roar reporting that it will be a back 3 of Jorgensen Potter and Toole with JOC at 10 and Edmed on the bench.
Fuck. I like Kellaway.
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@frugby said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
I think it is fairly odd that the All Blacks went away from starting Fabian Holland. Set piece excelled with him there, he simply dominates the air and does the dirty work well. IMO, it should always be Holland/Darry + Vaa'i/Barrett/Tuipulotu.
Razor has to make a statement - does he have the balls to drop Scooter? The obvious team on form this week has Holland, Vaa'i, Parker with Tuipulotu on the bench for me.
If there is a big call to be made in the loose forwards, I hope it is Lakai they go to. Kirifi doesn't move the needle for me. I'm happy with Ardie and Wallace, so he slots onto the bench.
Vaa’i’s form was terrible on the weekend. Missed some crucial clean outs, was at sea in D and had very little impact in the tight. If he plays, he should be at 6.
Kirifi missing wouldn’t be a big call IMO. A big call is leaving Ardie out (don’t think it will happen) or Sititi, which I wouldn’t mind.
I think we need to play with more size against the Aussies. Hit them in close.
Williams, Taylor, Newell, Barrett, Holland, Vaa’i, Savea, Parker
ST, EDG, Lomax, Tuipoluto, Sititi/Lakai
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
Williams, Taylor, Newell, Barrett, Holland, Vaa’i, Savea, Parker
ST, EDG, Lomax, Tuipoluto, Sititi/Lakai
I don't think Parker is a great option at 8.
I'd probably pick Jacobson or Sititi to play 8 and put Parker on the bench if Vaa'i is playing 6.
I get the argument that Sititi and Ardie are a bit same-same, but they worked OK at 6/8 last year, so maybe they can be melded at 7/8.
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A bunch of ABs back.
Several Wallabies out.
Eden Park Hoodoo.
Zero chance of getting the Bledisloe back.
@NTA said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
A bunch of ABs back.
Several Wallabies out.
Eden Park Hoodoo.
Zero chance of getting the Bledisloe back.
Hope you're right.
We've suffered quite a bit this year, already - and we're not as practiced at it as you guys!
Give us another couple of years before sticking that Bled knife in!
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@NTA said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
A bunch of ABs back.
Several Wallabies out.
Eden Park Hoodoo.
Zero chance of getting the Bledisloe back.
Hope you're right.
We've suffered quite a bit this year, already - and we're not as practiced at it as you guys!
Give us another couple of years before sticking that Bled knife in!
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@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
Williams, Taylor, Newell, Barrett, Holland, Vaa’i, Savea, Parker
ST, EDG, Lomax, Tuipoluto, Sititi/Lakai
I don't think Parker is a great option at 8.
I'd probably pick Jacobson or Sititi to play 8 and put Parker on the bench if Vaa'i is playing 6.
I get the argument that Sititi and Ardie are a bit same-same, but they worked OK at 6/8 last year, so maybe they can be melded at 7/8.
@Chris-B said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
Williams, Taylor, Newell, Barrett, Holland, Vaa’i, Savea, Parker
ST, EDG, Lomax, Tuipoluto, Sititi/Lakai
I don't think Parker is a great option at 8.
I'd probably pick Jacobson or Sititi to play 8 and put Parker on the bench if Vaa'i is playing 6.
I get the argument that Sititi and Ardie are a bit same-same, but they worked OK at 6/8 last year, so maybe they can be melded at 7/8.
Maybe they can, but I'd dispute that they worked well together last year. They both (particularly Sititi) did some good stuff individually, but our loosies as a unit were consistently 2nd best - so if you think those two were good together, that seems a lot of blame to heap on one other guy - who wasn't always the same guy either.
And they were well outplayed last week, with the other loosie being somebody who didn't play at all last year.
If Sititi were playing as well as last year individually, I think him plus Vaai plus either Dalton or Ethan would work, with Ardie on the bench. But he's not. Last year we had no size, this year we have no workers. -
Roigard, Love, Clarke, Jordie, Proctor, Narawa, Jordan
Ratima, DMac, Ioane
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
Roigard, Love, Clarke, Jordie, Proctor, Narawa, Jordan
Ratima, DMac, Ioane
If you’re saying that’s the backline, that’s incorrect.
I won’t be posting this week as the leaks over the last few weeks got a bit crazy and I got asked if I was sharing the info.
I'm going to see if something still gets leaked on Facebook etc even if I don't post the backline. The Myth of Dmac page for example seemed to post not long after I had shared the info.
May seem silly to some but if I want to keep getting the inside oil I’ll tone it back this week so we can try keep the inside scoop long term. Apologies.
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@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
Roigard, Love, Clarke, Jordie, Proctor, Narawa, Jordan
Ratima, DMac, Ioane
If you’re saying that’s the backline, that’s incorrect.
I won’t be posting this week as the leaks over the last few weeks got a bit crazy and I got asked if I was sharing the info.
I'm going to see if something still gets leaked on Facebook etc even if I don't post the backline. The Myth of Dmac page for example seemed to post not long after I had shared the info.
May seem silly to some but if I want to keep getting the inside oil I’ll tone it back this week so we can try keep the inside scoop long term. Apologies.
@Landers92 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
Roigard, Love, Clarke, Jordie, Proctor, Narawa, Jordan
Ratima, DMac, Ioane
If you’re saying that’s the backline, that’s incorrect.
I won’t be posting this week as the leaks over the last few weeks got a bit crazy and I got asked if I was sharing the info.
I'm going to see if something still gets leaked on Facebook etc even if I don't post the backline. The Myth of Dmac page for example seemed to post not long after I had shared the info.
May seem silly to some but if I want to keep getting the inside oil I’ll tone it back this week so we can try keep the inside scoop long term. Apologies.
Bro I read and watch heaps of spy shit, I know how espionage works.
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@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
Roigard, Love, Clarke, Jordie, Proctor, Narawa, Jordan
Ratima, DMac, Ioane
If you’re saying that’s the backline, that’s incorrect.
I won’t be posting this week as the leaks over the last few weeks got a bit crazy and I got asked if I was sharing the info.
I'm going to see if something still gets leaked on Facebook etc even if I don't post the backline. The Myth of Dmac page for example seemed to post not long after I had shared the info.
May seem silly to some but if I want to keep getting the inside oil I’ll tone it back this week so we can try keep the inside scoop long term. Apologies.
@Landers92 we could develop a secret code for you, she'll be right.
