All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II

ACT Crusader

@kidcalder said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:

Ioane on the bench sits better with me than ALB, he may show some vigor especially if he gets on to replace proctor

He may never get on then….

ShaquilleOatmeal

@upthelanders said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:

@Kirwan Cry more. Great for Lakai and LF to get a shot to prove themselves. Will is a world-class Fullback, are we seriously judging him based on the 1-2 rusty games he had against the Pumas/Boks

Martin Guptill could count the number of world class players in this team on his bad foot and Will Jordan at fullback wouldn’t be one of them. He might have potential to get there but this coaching setup makes players worse, not better. If he’s still around in 2028, we’ll see how he gets on.

No Quarter

@upthelanders said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:

@Kirwan ”Expecting more” but you’re complaining about someone that isn’t even apart of the problem this team has right now

This team has problems across the park, and Jordan is very much part of the problem in the back three. He's never going to be great under the high ball or on defense, but at least on the wing we minimise those weaknesses while still making the most of his attacking threat ball in hand. I can't for the life of me understand why we'd move him.

Kruse

@NTA said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:

Wallaby side:
1 Slipper
2 Pollard
3 AAA
4 Frost
5 Skelton
6 Hooper
7 McReight
8 Wilson (c)
9 Gordon
10 Edmed
11 Daugunu
12 Ikitau
13 JAS
14 Potter
15 Jorgensen

16 Nasser
17 Robertson
18 Tupou
19 Williams
20 Valetini
21 Lonergan
22 JOC
23 Flook

This may go unnoticed by the in-fighting around AB selection. From what I've seen - most Ferners/NZers will start watching the game with zero knowledge of who "we"'re playing against... but all manner of outrage around our team.
I'd like to make an informed comment on that team but... I'm frankly no better.

ACT Crusader

@taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:

As to the loosies...it's a big man's game...

Parker is bigger than when Kaino became a fixture in the ABs from post 05, so I have hopes with him. He has good size for even the modern day blindsides.

Lakai is on the shorter side for a modern day flanker around 6’1 maybe 6’2 at best. A skilled player, but he will be tested.

taniwharugby

@ACT-Crusader if Parker was a bit more dynamic with ball in hand he could be at 8 and Vaai to 6, that'd be a good loose trio with any of Savea, Lakai or Kirifi at 7.

kev

@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:

Rieko is back, on the bench?

Presume that is because of utility value rather than form. I think the change they need to make is the backline coach. Playing a 2nd at centre is risky. Hope he goes well but smacks of desperation rather than a plan.

ACT Crusader

@taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:

@ACT-Crusader if Parker was a bit more dynamic with ball in hand he could be at 8 and Vaai to 6, that'd be a good loose trio with any of Savea, Lakai or Kirifi at 7.

He might have to change super rugby teams if he wants to get his hands on the ball more often, with all the other glory ball forwards in that Chiefs pack.

African Monkey

I'd swap Savea and Lakai around, see what Lakai can bring to the table as a 7 as Savea the seagull certainly ain't one.

upthelanders

@taniwharugby Too bad Parker will always move like a Snail

ACT Crusader

@Kruse said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:

@NTA said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:

Wallaby side:
1 Slipper
2 Pollard
3 AAA
4 Frost
5 Skelton
6 Hooper
7 McReight
8 Wilson (c)
9 Gordon
10 Edmed
11 Daugunu
12 Ikitau
13 JAS
14 Potter
15 Jorgensen

16 Nasser
17 Robertson
18 Tupou
19 Williams
20 Valetini
21 Lonergan
22 JOC
23 Flook

This may go unnoticed by the in-fighting around AB selection. From what I've seen - most Ferners/NZers will start watching the game with zero knowledge of who "we"'re playing against... but all manner of outrage around our team.
I'd like to make an informed comment on that team but... I'm frankly no better.

Cobber is giving the young fella a start at flyhalf and gone back to an experienced hand to start at scrum half with the other young fella who played most of the match last week, remaining as the reserve scrum half. No change to the inside centre and outside centre combination.

A forced change on the left wing with the other outside backs the same.

Bones

@ACT-Crusader pretty brutal looking forward pack both starting and bench.

NTA

@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:

Cobber is giving the young fella a start at flyhalf and gone back to an experienced hand to start at scrum half

Who both play at the Waratahs, it should be noted. Maybe that's a cohesion thing?

cgrant

On paper, the Aus forwards look far better than their NZ counterparts, at least in the second row, the loose forwards and on the bench. I don't predict an All Blacks' win, even if the Wallabies look poor at halfback and 1st Five.

Bones

Holland paying the price for his tendency to ruck watch when the heat comes on, instead of getting eyes up when realigning? Aussie caught him out easy with one of their tries and I seem to recall this happening before too.

jimmyb

@kev said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:

@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:

Rieko is back, on the bench?

Presume that is because of utility value rather than form. I think the change they need to make is the backline coach. Playing a 2nd at centre is risky. Hope he goes well but smacks of desperation rather than a plan.

What’s the alternative? Proctor has been poor so he appropriately gets dropped. Tupaea is the next cab off the rank but J Barrett is probably the second best player in this team and it’s not really an option to drop him. Tupaea has played 13 plenty of times and Ioane is there to cover if it turns to shit. I’m not sure what the alternative is given we don’t have another 13 in NZ that’s any good

MN5

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360842260/all-blacks-coach-scott-robertson-goes-boring-bold-bledisloe-ii

I've got to be honest, I can't see any "bold" selections.

More along the lines of "forced by injury" and "stupid"

MacDazzler

Massive underwhelming selections in the forwards. I expect Wilson and the rest of the Wallabies pack to have a blinder against us.

Our selectors are the worst I can recall.

Hopefully Roigard can continue his great form from last week.

ACT Crusader

@NTA said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:

@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:

Cobber is giving the young fella a start at flyhalf and gone back to an experienced hand to start at scrum half

Who both play at the Waratahs, it should be noted. Maybe that's a cohesion thing?

Definitely. Now that winning the Bledisloe is out of the equation, I think it’s good that Schmidt is giving another 10 test experience.

NTA

@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:

@NTA said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:

@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:

Cobber is giving the young fella a start at flyhalf and gone back to an experienced hand to start at scrum half

Who both play at the Waratahs, it should be noted. Maybe that's a cohesion thing?

Definitely. Now that winning the Bledisloe is out of the equation, I think it’s good that Schmidt is giving another 10 test experience.

Especially as I think we need to thank JOC for his time and bid him farewell. Need to work hard on the stock we have onshore and use overseas only as a backup

The Silver Fern

All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II