All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.
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@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
@SynicBast I mentioned a little while ago that our four front line props as a combination are excellent. They hit the line at speed and tackle with real venom. And it's now expected that they do it week in week out. And they do.
I juts remember Crockett used to get slammed a lot in here, and some of the mud seemed to stick in obscuring his good work
@SynicBast said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
@SynicBast I mentioned a little while ago that our four front line props as a combination are excellent. They hit the line at speed and tackle with real venom. And it's now expected that they do it week in week out. And they do.
I juts remember Crockett used to get slammed a lot in here, and some of the mud seemed to stick in obscuring his good work
Most of the criticism was the scrum. He has always been good around the park.
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@NTA said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
@Unco said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
Yeah because the ABs never get harsh calls against them.
Cry more.
Never seen an AB try disallowed because a player two metres back, with zero chance of preventing the try, got penalised for obstruction, after FIRST committing obstruction himself.
Port Elizabeth 2011 is a good one to look at for your conspiracy theories.
@rotated said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
Port Elizabeth 2011 is a good one to look at for your conspiracy theories.
I'll give it a look. Pretty sure there are some YouTube clips labelled "WORLD RUGBY CONSPIRES AGAINST ALL BLACKS!" for around that time?
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Well the score blew out, but for the vast majority of that Test I'd say the better team wore canary yellow. With that team, playing like that, they could get a Grand Slam in Nov.
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@rotated said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
Port Elizabeth 2011 is a good one to look at for your conspiracy theories.
I'll give it a look. Pretty sure there are some YouTube clips labelled "WORLD RUGBY CONSPIRES AGAINST ALL BLACKS!" for around that time?
@NTA said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
@rotated said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
Port Elizabeth 2011 is a good one to look at for your conspiracy theories.
I'll give it a look. Pretty sure there are some YouTube clips labelled "WORLD RUGBY CONSPIRES AGAINST ALL BLACKS!" for around that time?
Copyright Green and Gold?
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Nobody covered themselves in glory after that, particularly Mr Owens.
Weird how you can be so unsatisfied with a 27 point win. Didn't enjoy that at all.
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Final score 37-10 to the good guys. Disappointing game, the forwards were rubbish for the first 50 odd minutes. All the subs seemed to make some great impact.
Looking forward to Chieka whinging about one try being disallowed, even though they lost by 27 points (and would've lost by more if Barrett could kick worth a damn).
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Also I don't know what the TMO was thinking.
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Kearns claiming that the disallowed try destroyed the game. Dick head.
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@dingo said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
@Donsteppa said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
Imagine if we had... oh, I don't know... say someone like Aaron Smith in the match day 23.
Why? So he could have been rag dolled on defense because his forwards were shit?
You don't think he'd have been a handy bench option about now?
@Donsteppa said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
@dingo said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
@Donsteppa said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
Imagine if we had... oh, I don't know... say someone like Aaron Smith in the match day 23.
Why? So he could have been rag dolled on defense because his forwards were shit?
You don't think he'd have been a handy bench option about now?
My apologies. I thought you meant instead of TJP who I thought had being having a big match on defense just when it needed it..as a replacement, yes,agreed. A Smith running on would be awesome.
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@Donsteppa said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
@dingo said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
@Donsteppa said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
Imagine if we had... oh, I don't know... say someone like Aaron Smith in the match day 23.
Why? So he could have been rag dolled on defense because his forwards were shit?
You don't think he'd have been a handy bench option about now?
My apologies. I thought you meant instead of TJP who I thought had being having a big match on defense just when it needed it..as a replacement, yes,agreed. A Smith running on would be awesome.
@dingo said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
@Donsteppa said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
@dingo said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
@Donsteppa said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
Imagine if we had... oh, I don't know... say someone like Aaron Smith in the match day 23.
Why? So he could have been rag dolled on defense because his forwards were shit?
You don't think he'd have been a handy bench option about now?
My apologies. I thought you meant instead of TJP who I thought had being having a big match on defense just when it needed it..as a replacement, yes,agreed. A Smith running on would be awesome.
I was deliberately vague with my matchday 23 wording
Was thinking he'd have been a handy option to run on at the time!
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Well the score blew out, but for the vast majority of that Test I'd say the better team wore canary yellow. With that team, playing like that, they could get a Grand Slam in Nov.
Well, there's my 38-point margin gone. Slackers.
@antipodean said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
Well the score blew out, but for the vast majority of that Test I'd say the better team wore canary yellow. With that team, playing like that, they could get a Grand Slam in Nov.
The number of errors on attack gave the ABs every chance to counter, and our transition to defence wasn't good enough.
Fortunately, not a lot of the NH teams we're facing have the same skillset that this AB team has. The number of offloads that just stuck when they needed them to is uncanny, and down (no doubt) to the sheer number of errors we made through passing too early or too slow... man... It is pretty to watch, when I can take my eyepatch off for the replays.
@antipodean said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
Also I don't know what the TMO was thinking.
Actually, what burns me more at this point was Nige's reffing of the mauls. It was very harsh to start, and then just plain weird to finish.
ABs had one come to ground, and before they even got it moving, he's calling them "ONCE!" which is weird, because they hadn't even had time to set.
Then at the end, when the game was gone, he let the Wallabies stop at least three times before calling "ONCE!", and then gave us a ruck penalty we probably didn't deserve in the same couple of minutes.
Was Coles MOTM?
Thought we aimed up, and played the way anyone SHOULD play against the ABs: pound them in close. Our deftness out wide was pretty nice, though again a couple of those early/late offloads just don't stick for us because our speed of thought - probably down to fitness - just isn't there.
It was good to at least see our pigs hammering home some good work. But we gave away a couple of tries with sloppy work out wide, and you're going to pay for that anywhere in NZ or against NZ.
Cheika's presser is going to be interesting.
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I enjoyed that.
And then will move on to list the negatives .....
Our defence was as soft as custard it seemed. Around the rucks especially.
Worst ive seen our 2 locks play. BBBR especially ineffective in defence.
Gods knows how that ends up a 27 point margin.
Best I've seen Folau in ages.
Niggly game again, midway first half Whitelock and TJP seemed too distracted by the niggle.
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There was something about 18 and not losing to Oz at Eden Park since 1986 that made that first 60 minutes more excruciating than normal.
After every game I make a resolution not to live post until the end of the game, and each week I'm dumb enough to forget...
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@Donsteppa said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
@dingo said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
@Donsteppa said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
Imagine if we had... oh, I don't know... say someone like Aaron Smith in the match day 23.
Why? So he could have been rag dolled on defense because his forwards were shit?
You don't think he'd have been a handy bench option about now?
My apologies. I thought you meant instead of TJP who I thought had being having a big match on defense just when it needed it..as a replacement, yes,agreed. A Smith running on would be awesome.
@dingo said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
@Donsteppa said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
@dingo said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
@Donsteppa said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
Imagine if we had... oh, I don't know... say someone like Aaron Smith in the match day 23.
Why? So he could have been rag dolled on defense because his forwards were shit?
You don't think he'd have been a handy bench option about now?
My apologies. I thought you meant instead of TJP who I thought had being having a big match on defense just when it needed it..as a replacement, yes,agreed. A Smith running on would be awesome.
Eh, TJP's defence was good but I thought his clearance was pretty weak. He ended up throwing quite a few hospital passes that just put the backs under more pressure.
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I enjoyed that.
And then will move on to list the negatives .....
Our defence was as soft as custard it seemed. Around the rucks especially.
Worst ive seen our 2 locks play. BBBR especially ineffective in defence.
Gods knows how that ends up a 27 point margin.
Best I've seen Folau in ages.
Niggly game again, midway first half Whitelock and TJP seemed too distracted by the niggle.
@Rapido said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
Our defence was as soft as custard it seemed. Around the rucks especially.
I think that was down to three things:
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Phipps was passing off the ground a lot. Take out that step-and-a-half, and the line speed defence of the ABs wasn't quite as effective
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Our forwards did a lot more carrying in close. Inside ball from Foley especially was paying dividends.
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Quade and Foley as dual playmakers tends to leave you with 2 guys marshalling 4 runners in the previous games we played. Foley as the lone playmaker is 1 guy marshalling 5 runners. Our lines on attack were a lot better and held up the defence a bit as they had to think about which options they needed to call.
That said, the silly little offloads and some great cover defence by TJP were the difference between us getting clean breaks, and us getting clear. Contrast that to our lack of pace in taking the ball carrier to deck, and the ABs getting offloads away off the deck or as they're going down.
Skill level still a big chasm.
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