All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.
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@reprobate said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
@Rapido nah bro, I don't see it. He can choose his support line: the guy with the ball is so far in front that the support player can choose to go inside or outside. The defender never had a chance. Never was in front of dhp. It's a try.
Julian may not have got him but he was denied the chance to by the change of line...technically correct ruling IMO.
Thought savea was rubbish in.the first 40 but sparked up in the 2nd.
Todd was excellent. Some of his and Kainos hits....that trysaver by coles was right in front of me and boy he can move!
Wish people would stop booing Quade...mind you there are always boof heads who are embarrassing and there were 2 just in front of us. But there seemed large sectools that didn't boo too which is good.
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@taniwharugby but this is what I don't get... why can't a support player change his line from inside to outside? He's in front of the defender.
@reprobate he wasnt he was beside him and changed his line. if he was in front I agree.
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@reprobate he wasnt he was beside him and changed his line. if he was in front I agree.
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
@reprobate he wasnt he was beside him and changed his line. if he was in front I agree.
Internet is erupting with outraged Wallabies fans. Spittle flying everywhere, but it was stupid from DHP because it was so unnecessary - Julian wasn't going to catch Speight.
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@reprobate he wasnt he was beside him and changed his line. if he was in front I agree.
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@taniwharugby I see him as marginally in front - at absolute worst even and jostling for position - and irrelevant to play anyway as there was no catching him. I think it's a shit call, and i would be furious if it were against my team.
@reprobate whether Julian woulda got him or not is irrelevant, hecwas in a position to attempt and was denied by a dumb pointless move by dhp.
Oh and I'd be furious too if we were on the end of that...but IMO still correct in the rule book
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@antipodean was a cartoon of cheika dressed as a clown front page of the sports page, think it said bring on the clowns
@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
@antipodean was a cartoon of cheika dressed as a clown front page of the sports page, think it said bring on the clowns
I'm sure he sends sternly worded emails to The Daily Telegraph and Fox every time they portray their opponents as anything other than brilliant.
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First question for Cheika in the presser is about the no-try. His response - and I'm paraphrasing:
"I dunno. Obviously I can't say anything because they've got you by the throat. Never seen shepherding from behind before... but
Before all that though we've got to own our mistakes. We turned ball over too much, played a lot of rugby, and know NZ are good on counterattack. We turn it over and allow them score so that's the first thing before we speak about turning points and all that business.
And we can only call it a turning point if we lose by less than a score perhaps. I know there are ramifications for the game [if we score]. And someone has to own those mistakes as well so we'll see if World Rugby come out with an announcement."
Its on the All Blacks Facebook "Live" video list.
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@reprobate he wasnt he was beside him and changed his line. if he was in front I agree.
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
@reprobate he wasnt he was beside him and changed his line. if he was in front I agree.
I think the try should have be given. Full stop. Period. Some more full stops to make my point understood but.....if the Oz winger hadn't (needlessly) stuck his hand out and looked like he tried to grab J Savea them we wouldn't be having the argument. But he did and "no try" is the result.
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
@TeWaio said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
TKB has the passing accuracy of A Smith and the strength of TJP in heavy traffic. Was a good addition I thought, his crisp service helped us open the game up at the end.
This is the same guy that threw a no look pass that would have been an Aus try if we didn't have a turbo hooker?
What exactly are you disagreeing with him on? That was an obvious fuck up but it doesn't change the fact that his delivery was a dramatic improvement on TJP's crap passing.
@Unco said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
@TeWaio said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
TKB has the passing accuracy of A Smith and the strength of TJP in heavy traffic. Was a good addition I thought, his crisp service helped us open the game up at the end.
This is the same guy that threw a no look pass that would have been an Aus try if we didn't have a turbo hooker?
What exactly are you disagreeing with him on? That was an obvious fuck up but it doesn't change the fact that his delivery was a dramatic improvement on TJP's crap passing.
That's it let it out.
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@reprobate whether Julian woulda got him or not is irrelevant, hecwas in a position to attempt and was denied by a dumb pointless move by dhp.
Oh and I'd be furious too if we were on the end of that...but IMO still correct in the rule book
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
@reprobate whether Julian woulda got him or not is irrelevant, hecwas in a position to attempt and was denied by a dumb pointless move by dhp.
Oh and I'd be furious too if we were on the end of that...but IMO still correct in the rule book
If you want to look at the Laws, Savea grabbed DHP's shirt first as he turned to chase. First offence, play advantage, try awarded
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
@reprobate he wasnt he was beside him and changed his line. if he was in front I agree.
I think the try should have be given. Full stop. Period. Some more full stops to make my point understood but.....if the Oz winger hadn't (needlessly) stuck his hand out and looked like he tried to grab J Savea them we wouldn't be having the argument. But he did and "no try" is the result.
@dingo i wouldn't of had any complaints if it had been awarded and I am not fussed it wasn't.
It was a bit more than sticking an arm out though...the arm one was in the coles non try.
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
@reprobate he wasnt he was beside him and changed his line. if he was in front I agree.
I think the try should have be given. Full stop. Period. Some more full stops to make my point understood but.....if the Oz winger hadn't (needlessly) stuck his hand out and looked like he tried to grab J Savea them we wouldn't be having the argument. But he did and "no try" is the result.
@dingo said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
@reprobate he wasnt he was beside him and changed his line. if he was in front I agree.
I think the try should have be given. Full stop. Period. Some more full stops to make my point understood but.....if the Oz winger hadn't (needlessly) stuck his hand out and looked like he tried to grab J Savea them we wouldn't be having the argument. But he did and "no try" is the result.
It was an act of real stupidity from DHP. I doubt Savea would have caught him, but DHP invited the TMO decision. He is the one that Cheika should be most pissed at.
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Unsung AB sub for me Is Wyatt Crockett - he's become mR dependable these days - doesn't get as much credit as he deserves for jhis work at ruck and in the linking as well
@SynicBast said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
Unsung AB sub for me Is Wyatt Crockett - he's become mR dependable these days - doesn't get as much credit as he deserves for jhis work at ruck and in the linking as well
Hell yes. Crockett was the man when he game on. Smashed a few wobblies, just dominated. Him and Faumuina made a huge difference.
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@dingo i wouldn't of had any complaints if it had been awarded and I am not fussed it wasn't.
It was a bit more than sticking an arm out though...the arm one was in the coles non try.
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
@dingo i wouldn't of had any complaints if it had been awarded and I am not fussed it wasn't.
It was a bit more than sticking an arm out though...the arm one was in the coles non try.
And I said at the time of Coles non try, I think that was Nigel going WTF, and thinking I'll cancel out what I think should have been a try with another try that should be but....yeah, nah.
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@dingo said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
@reprobate he wasnt he was beside him and changed his line. if he was in front I agree.
I think the try should have be given. Full stop. Period. Some more full stops to make my point understood but.....if the Oz winger hadn't (needlessly) stuck his hand out and looked like he tried to grab J Savea them we wouldn't be having the argument. But he did and "no try" is the result.
It was an act of real stupidity from DHP. I doubt Savea would have caught him, but DHP invited the TMO decision. He is the one that Cheika should be most pissed at.
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Oooh... One of the questions for Cheika was "do you have any comment about what they've achieved with 18 wins in a row?"
Response:
"Oh mate I don't really think they want my comment. They dressed us up as clowns today so they wouldn't really want our comment. I don't think they'd respect our comment anyway, so we won't make one"
Another reporter: "what do you mean they dressed you up as clowns?"
Cheika: "It was on the front page of the paper, bro. So I won't bother making a comment" -- bit more comment here, before losing his line a little before another reporter (kiwi) asks: "Reading between the lines, do you take that as a mark of disrespect?"
Cheika starts to respond, Moore cuts in
"Yeah mate, I do. Abosolutely"Then some other reporters want to hunt that line down with Moore. He didn't want much of it, but seemed pretty offended that the Wallaby jersey - and all those who pulled it on - were basically slighted by that.
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Post-match press conferences:
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
@reprobate he wasnt he was beside him and changed his line. if he was in front I agree.
I think the try should have be given. Full stop. Period. Some more full stops to make my point understood but.....if the Oz winger hadn't (needlessly) stuck his hand out and looked like he tried to grab J Savea them we wouldn't be having the argument. But he did and "no try" is the result.
@dingo said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
@reprobate he wasnt he was beside him and changed his line. if he was in front I agree.
I think the try should have be given. Full stop. Period. Some more full stops to make my point understood but.....if the Oz winger hadn't (needlessly) stuck his hand out and looked like he tried to grab J Savea them we wouldn't be having the argument. But he did and "no try" is the result.
Yep. It's kind of the same if there is a kick and chase and one guy grabs the jersey of another who won't even get near the ball. Had no impact on the try being scored, but stupid illegal play. HP should cop crap for this not the refs.
