QF: Otago v Waikato
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@jimmyb said in QF: Otago v Waikato:
Also Finau should never start in super rugby, let alone the ABs again. Was absolutely horrendous. Only managed a few cheap shots
Care to be more specific?
I didn't see anything in that game to suggest he would be dropped from the ABs.
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@frugby said in QF: Otago v Waikato:
Credit Ben O’Keeffe. Allowed that game to flow.
I dunno about that one mate. You can call me sour grapes if you want but I think if it were the other way around the Otago fans would be pretty salty.
The drop goal shouldn't have stood as the ball was touched before it went out, and the counter ruck after the break should have been a yellow.
If your idea of flowing is letting everything go then sure, but Otago defs got the rub of the green a few times, and when a game is that tight it's pretty hard to not be irritated
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@brodean said in QF: Otago v Waikato:
@Bovidae said in QF: Otago v Waikato:
Jacobson would do what everyone was hoping Kirifi would be able to do as an international 7.
Every involvement from Jacobsen was superb in that game but still the poor bugger gets a serious blow to the head. The guy is seriously unlucky. As far as injuries go hes in Blackadder territory.
Every involvement might be pushing it when he got yellow carded and a resulting 2 Otago tries
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@Yeetyaah One might suggest when Jacobson dragged that maul down it should have been a penalty try. Ditto, one could say Finau’s clean out was a shocker.
I think the best team won, but it was a cracker of a game. Can see how a Waikato fan would be frustrated, but as cliche as it is, rugby was the winner.
On entertainment, that was so much better than the snorefests the AB’s have had.
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@frugby said in QF: Otago v Waikato:
One might suggest when Jacobson dragged that maul down it should have been a penalty try
For sure I agree, they scored afterwards anyway so moot point almost, we're not going to agree here coz ultimately Otago won but again if the shoe were on the other foot Otago fans wouldn't be happy.
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@frugby said in QF: Otago v Waikato:
Waikato got better when Cruden went off. Maybe a lesson that a 100 year old first five ain’t the answer… if Moorby wasn’t injured, should have moved him to 15, Cook-Savage to 10.
Yes, I was surprised that Cook-Savage didn't go into first receiver. LCF could have moved back to fullback.
Obviously Waikato had major injuries at 1st 5 with the main three options missing all season. I doubt you could even name Otago's third and fourth-string 1st 5s..
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@Bovidae said in QF: Otago v Waikato:
@frugby said in QF: Otago v Waikato:
Waikato got better when Cruden went off. Maybe a lesson that a 100 year old first five ain’t the answer… if Moorby wasn’t injured, should have moved him to 15, Cook-Savage to 10.
Yes, I was surprised that Cook-Savage didn't go into first receiver. LCF could have moved back to fullback.
Obviously Waikato had major injuries at 1st 5 with the main three options missing all season. I doubt you could even name Otago's third and fourth-string 1st 5s..
Unlike Waikato we didn't have two former All Black 10s retiring in our city.
Six 10 options
- Millar
- Gilbert
- Rique Miln
- Hastie/Pledger
- McKenzie Palmer
- Ben Miller
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@Grooter said in QF: Otago v Waikato:
@Bovidae I can't even name our 2nd first five really, Millar has started all 11 games so far, It would be somewhat funny If Robertson & Hansen sends Millar to Joseph's XV team seeing as tho Jamie rates him as much as southernman does lol
I have come to terms with Cam Millar's talent. One of the best kickers in NZ Rugby. Celebrate it. You just can't have a 10 who is unable to take the ball into contact or make play. Dylan Plesger is Otago's primary operational playmaker. Millar knows where it is going. He just can't execute it. Still, one of the hardest working 10s in NZ rugby.
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@SouthernMann said in QF: Otago v Waikato:
@Grooter said in QF: Otago v Waikato:
@Bovidae I can't even name our 2nd first five really, Millar has started all 11 games so far, It would be somewhat funny If Robertson & Hansen sends Millar to Joseph's XV team seeing as tho Jamie rates him as much as southernman does lol
I have come to terms with Cam Millar's talent. One of the best kickers in NZ Rugby. Celebrate it. You just can't have a 10 who is unable to take the ball into contact or make play. Dylan Plesger is Otago's primary operational playmaker. Millar knows where it is going. He just can't execute it. Still, one of the hardest working 10s in NZ rugby.
As mentioned above, the Highlanders/Otago S&C coach and dietitian need to grab him by the scruff of the neck and get him to put on 5-6kgs. He’s 6ft. Needs to be 90-92kgs, not 85kgs
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Pledger is obviously a soecial talent, but I would be hesitant to pick him this year. He still has the build of a boy and I would hate to see him broken because he was thrown in the deep end too soon.
Watching Cruden pressed home to me how bad our current crop of kickers are at getting distance on their punts. Cruden in his prime was never one of our bigger kickers, but today he consistently got an extra 10 to 20 metres on clearance kicks compared to the younger slosh doing the rounds in NZ rugby at the moment. It is a major weakness.
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That was a great QF to watch as neutral. Haven't seen the above comments, but, as a neutral:
Otago seem to have some promise, and a few prospects destined for bigger things.Waikato....poor discipline. The All Blacks squad members may have promised the world....they delivered an atlas
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@Yeetyaah said in QF: Otago v Waikato:
@frugby said in QF: Otago v Waikato:
Credit Ben O’Keeffe. Allowed that game to flow.
I dunno about that one mate. You can call me sour grapes if you want but I think if it were the other way around the Otago fans would be pretty salty.
The drop goal shouldn't have stood as the ball was touched before it went out, and the counter ruck after the break should have been a yellow.
If your idea of flowing is letting everything go then sure, but Otago defs got the rub of the green a few times, and when a game is that tight it's pretty hard to not be irritated
Yeah sour grapes
Well done Otago, but that Waikato team showed some real mettle. Either team could’ve won and not feel ripped off.
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@Crazy-Horse has superb balance and gets into position for the kick nice and early.
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Cracking watch
